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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
January 31 2016 11:40 GMT
#181
On January 31 2016 20:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 20:19 Pr0wler wrote:
On January 31 2016 20:17 OtherWorld wrote:
Uh oh OK that's bad, the fact that such a player is charged with matchfixing is terrible even if it turns out he isn't condamned.
I hope KeSPA can seek and destroy every single player who ever matchfixed in SC2 in the following month, else SC2 will become the Pro Cycling of eSports and will die sooner than expected.

I hope that there will be still players left to play the game after that.
Or what if KeSPA is actually part of the scheme ? That would be funny.

Absolutely hilarious


Too hilarious to even laugh.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 31 2016 11:43 GMT
#182
I can't say I care very much. He doesn't play my race. He committed a crime and got arrested. I'll still play the game regardless of this news.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 31 2016 11:45 GMT
#183
On January 31 2016 20:43 Shield wrote:
I can't say I care very much. He doesn't play my race. He committed a crime and got arrested. I'll still play the game regardless of this news.

Ok
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
January 31 2016 11:48 GMT
#184
What if the protosses who lost in PvT are the other ones fixing??
Okay too soon.
WriterMaru
ProtossMasterRace
Profile Joined January 2016
57 Posts
January 31 2016 11:49 GMT
#185
On January 31 2016 20:43 Shield wrote:
I can't say I care very much. He doesn't play my race. He committed a crime and got arrested. I'll still play the game regardless of this news.


I normally don't like zergs or terrans but here are a few exceptions and life was one of them
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 31 2016 11:49 GMT
#186
On January 31 2016 20:19 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 20:17 OtherWorld wrote:
Uh oh OK that's bad, the fact that such a player is charged with matchfixing is terrible even if it turns out he isn't condamned.
I hope KeSPA can seek and destroy every single player who ever matchfixed in SC2 in the following month, else SC2 will become the Pro Cycling of eSports and will die sooner than expected.

I hope that there will be still players left to play the game after that.
Or what if KeSPA is actually part of the scheme ? That would be funny.

Yes, both of these scenarios are possible, sadly.
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SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
January 31 2016 11:50 GMT
#187
Well if this is true, he's probably going to get a Life-time ban
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
January 31 2016 11:53 GMT
#188
I think we should be careful about trying to hunt down VoDs of games where he fixed, because we really don't know which games it was (and don't even have any confirmation that he's guilty yet, technically). So if you try to look for "signs" of matchfixing in games you just end up with confirmation bias (i.e. "he smiled", "he did a big misplay", etc become proof of matchfixing whereas they're really pretty normal things)
memes are a dish best served dank
egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
January 31 2016 11:56 GMT
#189
On January 31 2016 20:48 Poopi wrote:
What if the protosses who lost in PvT are the other ones fixing??
Okay too soon.

Protosses don't match-fix. It's a known fact.
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
January 31 2016 11:58 GMT
#190
Protosses don't match-fix. It's a known fact.


did you watch Realtime with Bill Maher: "Lies are the new truth"?
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 31 2016 12:00 GMT
#191
On January 31 2016 20:49 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 20:19 Pr0wler wrote:
On January 31 2016 20:17 OtherWorld wrote:
Uh oh OK that's bad, the fact that such a player is charged with matchfixing is terrible even if it turns out he isn't condamned.
I hope KeSPA can seek and destroy every single player who ever matchfixed in SC2 in the following month, else SC2 will become the Pro Cycling of eSports and will die sooner than expected.

I hope that there will be still players left to play the game after that.
Or what if KeSPA is actually part of the scheme ? That would be funny.

Yes, both of these scenarios are possible, sadly.

That's quite the conspiracy theory right there

I guess it doesn't look good? As i said before if even Life felt the need to fix matches (assuming that's true), i don't know what that tells us about the korean scene as a whole. Nobody will ever talk about it, but quite frankly it has to be horrible for pretty much 90% of the players. I wonder if it's all worth it... Meh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
THERIDDLER
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada126 Posts
January 31 2016 12:02 GMT
#192
Remember when he on purposely blew up banelings vs taeja. Then did it a week later vs maru.
Please don't fricken hack, its just a game.
.ilsegugio.
Profile Joined December 2014
13 Posts
January 31 2016 12:04 GMT
#193
one thing's for certain, KeSPA is not having huge success in preventing this kind of stuff from happening. after sAviOr case they were very vocal that despite the damage done a zero-tolerance policy was all they needed to stop corruption among pros, guess they were very wrong. should have worked in depth to eradicate bad habits and menaces at the source. If it comes out a top SC pro can be easily blackmailed/addicted to gambling and stuff, it would mean the eSports organizations did not do enough to protect professional scene from these threats. KeSPA representative should wage some kind of responsability for that.
"cheese and you'll be forgiven, forgive and you'll be cheesed."
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 31 2016 12:05 GMT
#194
On January 31 2016 21:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 20:49 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 31 2016 20:19 Pr0wler wrote:
On January 31 2016 20:17 OtherWorld wrote:
Uh oh OK that's bad, the fact that such a player is charged with matchfixing is terrible even if it turns out he isn't condamned.
I hope KeSPA can seek and destroy every single player who ever matchfixed in SC2 in the following month, else SC2 will become the Pro Cycling of eSports and will die sooner than expected.

I hope that there will be still players left to play the game after that.
Or what if KeSPA is actually part of the scheme ? That would be funny.

Yes, both of these scenarios are possible, sadly.

That's quite the conspiracy theory right there

I guess it doesn't look good? As i said before if even Life felt the need to fix matches (assuming that's true), i don't know what that tells us about the korean scene as a whole. Nobody will ever talk about it, but quite frankly it has to be horrible for pretty much 90% of the players. I wonder if it's all worth it... Meh


Someone with Lifes' amount of winnings wouldn't be doing it out of some need for the money. It would have to be another reason. Doesn't say much about the scene IMO, just the person who does it.

Prime and co, well we all know what was going on there.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
January 31 2016 12:05 GMT
#195
oh this is such a shame
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 31 2016 12:08 GMT
#196
Like someone posted earlier, it would make sense if its some trace from the original 12 people involved in the Prime scandal that lead to this. Either way something must have lead to them getting real proof on Life matchfixing. My first thought: the only reason we got to know they had Life arrested was because he was supposed to play a game. How do we know that they don't have any additonal people arrested along with Life? Would make sense for it to take this long to really uncover everything and then arrest multiple people.

It would not make sense for them to wait for his birthday because if koreas justice system is anything like the european ones its the age you are at when you break the law that effects the judgement not when you are arrested for it.

They have announced Life is getting charged with match-fixing and that they will keep investitgating, it sounds like Life is all they got but we can't be sure.

Also I'm pretty tired of the whole "don't discuss the situation if you don't KNOW whats going on", this is a thread for discussing the situation. Since when is a discussion only filled with "THis is bad for the scene" and "Fuck my Life" and every other post is getting critized for containing subjective thoughts or opinions. Thats what a forum is btw, where you go to share subjective thoughts and opinions.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
January 31 2016 12:10 GMT
#197
Well if Life feels the need to do this I am actually not sure we can trust anyone within the scene..
Life if anyone should be able to make a living out of the game without needing extra moneys.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
January 31 2016 12:12 GMT
#198
On January 31 2016 19:43 egernya wrote:
So this is the game that Korean scene's the most suspicious about.



Especially because on Korean version of the vod, casters said that something like this cannot happen, and Life smiled when he saw Solar's zerglings that he couldn't defend, and at 3:00, Life had a weird face for a moment when the overlord turns after him seeing the creep.


Didn't see any facial expression change at the time the overlord changed direction.

He didn't start smiling immediately after seeing Solar's zerglings. Only when they got into his main. That could have been a smile out of frustration. An "Oh, you're all-in" sort of smile.

But why would he want to avoid scouting Solar? Did he know that Solar was going 10pool and so wanted to avoid seeing the lings leave? Is it something that Solar always did in ZvZ back in 2014?
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
January 31 2016 12:14 GMT
#199
Thug life
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10302 Posts
January 31 2016 12:16 GMT
#200
how mirrored is this to savior's story lol. jumps into the scene, revolutionizes something (zergling control), becomes a god, falls, starts slumping, match fix. good lord.
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