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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
[Svall]Granis
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Sweden94 Posts
January 30 2016 20:09 GMT
#801
On January 31 2016 04:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
I have full faith in the Manitowoc Police Department to resolve this case.


I loled IRL


I doubt there is something serious like they got proof of matchfixing, if so they would have came out and said it? Dont you think, or atleast let Afreeca know whats going on and they tell us we have nothing to worry about etc
Sundsvalls Finest
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
January 30 2016 20:29 GMT
#802
On January 31 2016 05:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 04:54 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On January 31 2016 03:53 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 31 2016 03:33 brickrd wrote:
On January 31 2016 03:06 aQuaSC wrote:
On January 31 2016 03:04 crazedrat wrote:
I hope it's not matchmaking related, would really taint him as a player. If he stabbed someone I could still respect him as a player.

I would never want to see a player participating in tournaments who committed such crime. I can somehow understand minor offences, but not hurting anyone.

agreed. a crime of dishonesty is shameful, but forgivable. but someone who commits crimes of violence is not someone i would ever cheer for or associate with. i think it's very very sick to "hope he stabbed someone" (crazedrat is probably just trolling though)

That's the old debate about "Can you be a fan of someone's work when he is a 'bad human being'?"
I think you can appreciate aspects of someone, even if he did things you cannot agree with. You just have to seperate the human and his work imo.


the word fan means an emotional connection to me. I mean you can appriciate the good work of an awful human being but being a fan is different.

But i am a fan of the work, no? Nobody here knows the players on a real personal level, i simply CANNOT be a fan of the human being because i don't really know the person.
But sure if i know he did something inherently wrong i wouldn't call me a fan of the character, but i still can be a fan of his work imo (or do word it differently, appreciate the work). I think i can seperate these things.


I would just word it differently, like you do in your last sentence; appriciate his gameplay. With casters trying to tie emotional bands to players and their gameplay in order to make them stick out more and create stories, it feels weird to be a fan of an awful human being(s work))
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 20:33:44
January 30 2016 20:33 GMT
#803
if Life matchfixed, then he's dead to me as a fan
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
January 30 2016 20:41 GMT
#804
On January 31 2016 05:09 [Svall]Granis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 04:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
I have full faith in the Manitowoc Police Department to resolve this case.


I loled IRL


I doubt there is something serious like they got proof of matchfixing, if so they would have came out and said it? Dont you think, or atleast let Afreeca know whats going on and they tell us we have nothing to worry about etc



No they wouldn't just come out and say it even if they had 100% proof that Life did anything.

Because if he did something they need to keep him and investigate exactly who else was linked to it; and before they know everything for sure they won't disclose any information and rightfully so because it could give time to people involved to react / leave.

And giving info so "we have nothing to worry about" is a very naive statement, they should not give a shit about whatever anyone is worried about. They will communicate on what is going on once they are done with the case.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 30 2016 21:23 GMT
#805
On January 31 2016 03:24 phantomfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 01:14 Shuffleblade wrote:

I believe this is serious and I do believe it is about matchfixing but don't confuse what you THINK with what you KNOW.

Everything we know about this comes from kespa and it is very little they have said, if you have a different source then please share it. Otherwise hold your tongue and stop spreading false information.

And even Kespa doesn't know, otherwise they would have kicked him out instead of postponing his match.....


To be fair Kespa may know and just don't want to say it yet because the investigation is still going on. They'll keep it as "Business as usual" as they can till they have to make a move, it wouldn't surprise me if come next weekend it's "postponed" again
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 30 2016 21:46 GMT
#806
what???
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 30 2016 21:57 GMT
#807
On January 31 2016 04:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
I have full faith in the Manitowoc Police Department to resolve this case.

hahaha
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 30 2016 22:30 GMT
#808
On January 29 2016 21:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
He probably stole flowers for a girl

stealing is stealing. don't trivialize.

I believe this will bigger. we have to wait and see.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
January 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#809
On January 31 2016 06:57 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 04:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
I have full faith in the Manitowoc Police Department to resolve this case.

hahaha

Making a match fixer
I Protoss winner, could it be?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#810
Zealousy currently on suicide watch.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
January 30 2016 22:39 GMT
#811
On January 31 2016 07:34 bo1b wrote:
Zealousy currently on suicide watch.

He is joined by many, including me
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 30 2016 22:42 GMT
#812
Kespa's previous statement regarding this was that anyone who is NAMED, REGARDLESS of whether they are convicted, gets BANNED FOR LIFE. So if this has anything it do with matchfixing, I trust Kespa will promptly ban Life without further ado.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 30 2016 22:50 GMT
#813
On January 31 2016 07:42 Doodsmack wrote:
Kespa's previous statement regarding this was that anyone who is NAMED, REGARDLESS of whether they are convicted, gets BANNED FOR LIFE. So if this has anything it do with matchfixing, I trust Kespa will promptly ban Life without further ado.


Do you?

Or are you just pointing out the inevitable hypocrisy?
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 30 2016 23:12 GMT
#814
in any case life's gonna need the chewbacca defense
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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TriaD
Profile Joined November 2015
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 23:17:07
January 30 2016 23:15 GMT
#815
Why do progamers are more likely to be arrested and involve in criminal activities?

Is this the consequences of players outwitting each other in a strategy game? People consistently using their will to outplay should only be inside the circle of SC2 and should not be apply into real life scenarios imo.

On January 31 2016 07:34 bo1b wrote:
Zealousy currently on suicide watch.


Count me in.
ClanRH.TV
Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
January 30 2016 23:39 GMT
#816
On January 31 2016 07:30 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 21:58 DarkLordOlli wrote:
He probably stole flowers for a girl

stealing is stealing. don't trivialize.

I believe this will bigger. we have to wait and see.


Yes Sir Officer Perfectman, sir.

On a more serious note, I'd like to know more about what's going on here.
"Don't take life too seriously because you'll never get out alive."
ClanRH.TV
Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 23:46:52
January 30 2016 23:46 GMT
#817
On January 31 2016 08:15 TriaD wrote:
Why do progamers are more likely to be arrested and involve in criminal activities?

Is this the consequences of players outwitting each other in a strategy game? People consistently using their will to outplay should only be inside the circle of SC2 and should not be apply into real life scenarios imo.

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 07:34 bo1b wrote:
Zealousy currently on suicide watch.


Count me in.


I think its entirely unlikely that pro gamers are more likely to be involved in criminal activity than other civilians. It just so happens that, especially in our worlds (or mine at least), we are more likely to hear about and remember it because they are semi-famous. I could open up the newspaper to the police blotter section now and pull out 20 instances of civilians be arrested in my local region yesterday alone; and these were only the ones they decided to use. After all they're people like anyone else and they're bound to make mistakes.
"Don't take life too seriously because you'll never get out alive."
TriaD
Profile Joined November 2015
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 23:58:58
January 30 2016 23:56 GMT
#818
On January 31 2016 08:46 ClanRH.TV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 08:15 TriaD wrote:
Why do progamers are more likely to be arrested and involve in criminal activities?

Is this the consequences of players outwitting each other in a strategy game? People consistently using their will to outplay should only be inside the circle of SC2 and should not be apply into real life scenarios imo.

On January 31 2016 07:34 bo1b wrote:
Zealousy currently on suicide watch.


Count me in.


I think its entirely unlikely that pro gamers are more likely to be involved in criminal activity than other civilians. It just so happens that, especially in our worlds (or mine at least), we are more likely to hear about and remember it because they are semi-famous. I could open up the newspaper to the police blotter section now and pull out 20 instances of civilians be arrested in my local region yesterday alone; and these were only the ones they decided to use. After all they're people like anyone else and they're bound to make mistakes.


Good point, I guess the diminishing of SC2 player did not create a cause and effect in criminal activities. It's interesting to know that this game - the players and the coaches are generally more likely to get into the police station than the others. Funny how pro gamer's decision is on point but they make mistakes in life.

I guess it demonstrates that most of the pro gamers in this game learned in the hard way by gathering experiences. Being book smart helps you a lot to a certain level on this game until you need to acquire experience to improve your game play.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 31 2016 00:03 GMT
#819
I mean I can understand the motivation for a player in a game thats pro scene is contracting to want to look for a way to make more money. I mean it happened in BW when the scene was far healthier than sc2's scene is in korean right now.
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 31 2016 00:08 GMT
#820
Ok, second night in jail is over, hope the breakfast was decent.
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