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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
January 30 2016 01:34 GMT
#661
Life puns will find a way.

Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
January 30 2016 01:37 GMT
#662
On January 30 2016 10:21 alexanderzero wrote:
Life is in second place for winnings in Starcraft 2, at $468,469. For some of the poorer, less successful players, I can at least understand why they would match fix. In Life's case, I really couldn't understand. Let's hope that he is cleared during this investigation!


he is young and grew the last 4-5 years in a progaming house. A progaming house is a good place to improve the level of progamers, not necessarily a good place to make a social and logic person for the real world.

young people is easily tempted and manipulated. last year he was a naive 18 years old boy.
I'm still hoping he isn't involved in matchfixing.
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DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
January 30 2016 01:46 GMT
#663
On January 30 2016 10:21 alexanderzero wrote:
Life is in second place for winnings in Starcraft 2, at $468,469. For some of the poorer, less successful players, I can at least understand why they would match fix. In Life's case, I really couldn't understand. Let's hope that he is cleared during this investigation!

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is not uncommon for starcraft pros to donate a portion of their tournament money to their teams.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17747 Posts
January 30 2016 02:02 GMT
#664
On January 30 2016 05:04 Kaizor wrote:
It took the South Korean Prosecutors long enough to finally suspect Life's loss to Sjow.


SjoW had a lot of really unusual timings and anti-timings. and he did a lot of blind countering.
if Life had never seen SjoW play before and was in the middle of 1 of those giant MLG events its plausible he could lose to SjoW.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 30 2016 02:03 GMT
#665
On January 30 2016 10:07 Naracs_Duc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 09:45 sc2chronic wrote:
jesus christ. i wonder h ow many other high profile pros have the possibilty of being involved in these things. surely no one wouldve ever predicted that Life would ever be questioned. so that possibility exists and its scary if you think about it.

no matter the outcome this negatively affects his image.


Do we technically know if he's being accused of match fixing as opposed to breaking an entering/robbery/drugs/etc...


On January 30 2016 01:57 neurego7647 wrote:
As korean I will tell about interesting information about this incident(forgive my awkward english sentences)

The point is the location of prosecutor's office: Changwon office

All korean e-sports matches are played in Seoul because influence of Seoul as capital is absolute like Paris.
But Life is interrogated in Changwon, not Seoul.

Changwon is quite far from Seoul. It is far more than 400km(=250 miles), But Changwon is quitecclose from Life's hometown.

But most interesting thing is Changwon prosecutor's office is specialized in investigating Match Fixing.
Most Sports(soccer,baseball,basketball,volleyball,starcraft...... )Match-fixing investigation have done in Changwon

That's why korean fans are suspecting Life's Match-fixing


(emphasis mine)
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 02:05:46
January 30 2016 02:05 GMT
#666
On January 30 2016 10:29 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 10:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:16 mikedebo wrote:
If he goes to prison, is he going to get a life sentence?


... Is that a serious question?

No one (at least none of the pros involved) got more than 3 years of probation during the original BW match-fixing scandal for reference.

(Z)Life sentence


Thank you, I can't believe someone had to literally spell that out
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Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
January 30 2016 02:25 GMT
#667
On January 30 2016 10:08 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 10:07 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On January 30 2016 09:45 sc2chronic wrote:
jesus christ. i wonder h ow many other high profile pros have the possibilty of being involved in these things. surely no one wouldve ever predicted that Life would ever be questioned. so that possibility exists and its scary if you think about it.

no matter the outcome this negatively affects his image.


Do we technically know if he's being accused of match fixing as opposed to breaking an entering/robbery/drugs/etc...



nothings been confirmed yet, its all speculations right now.


It's a little more than pure speculation if he's been taken to a place that conducts investigations mainly about sports match fixing.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 30 2016 02:34 GMT
#668
On January 30 2016 11:25 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 10:08 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:07 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On January 30 2016 09:45 sc2chronic wrote:
jesus christ. i wonder h ow many other high profile pros have the possibilty of being involved in these things. surely no one wouldve ever predicted that Life would ever be questioned. so that possibility exists and its scary if you think about it.

no matter the outcome this negatively affects his image.


Do we technically know if he's being accused of match fixing as opposed to breaking an entering/robbery/drugs/etc...



nothings been confirmed yet, its all speculations right now.


It's a little more than pure speculation if he's been taken to a place that conducts investigations mainly about sports match fixing.

I hope (besides a false accusation ofc) that he participated in illegal betting and this, combined with his profession, opted the prosecutor the have him arrested or something like that.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
January 30 2016 03:39 GMT
#669
On January 30 2016 11:34 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 11:25 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:08 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:07 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On January 30 2016 09:45 sc2chronic wrote:
jesus christ. i wonder h ow many other high profile pros have the possibilty of being involved in these things. surely no one wouldve ever predicted that Life would ever be questioned. so that possibility exists and its scary if you think about it.

no matter the outcome this negatively affects his image.


Do we technically know if he's being accused of match fixing as opposed to breaking an entering/robbery/drugs/etc...



nothings been confirmed yet, its all speculations right now.


It's a little more than pure speculation if he's been taken to a place that conducts investigations mainly about sports match fixing.

I hope (besides a false accusation ofc) that he participated in illegal betting and this, combined with his profession, opted the prosecutor the have him arrested or something like that.


why are you hoping that? what would that change? he would still be banned from sc2 for life wouldnt he?
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 03:58:07
January 30 2016 03:56 GMT
#670
On January 30 2016 10:46 DMXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 10:21 alexanderzero wrote:
Life is in second place for winnings in Starcraft 2, at $468,469. For some of the poorer, less successful players, I can at least understand why they would match fix. In Life's case, I really couldn't understand. Let's hope that he is cleared during this investigation!

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is not uncommon for starcraft pros to donate a portion of their tournament money to their teams.



Incorrect, usually players retain their earned money and give it to their family to manage. In general, if the player is a bit older, money is given back to the parents for education/other purposes as well. I forget who it was, but maybe puma or something a long time ago?? said they gave like $30k to their parents or something for education.

As far as I know, there is no Korean team that takes %s of player earnings other than some of the early ESF teams who needed assistance staying afloat, and I believe, only at the agreement of the player.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 30 2016 04:49 GMT
#671
On January 30 2016 12:39 evolsiefil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 11:34 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 11:25 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:08 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:07 Naracs_Duc wrote:
On January 30 2016 09:45 sc2chronic wrote:
jesus christ. i wonder h ow many other high profile pros have the possibilty of being involved in these things. surely no one wouldve ever predicted that Life would ever be questioned. so that possibility exists and its scary if you think about it.

no matter the outcome this negatively affects his image.


Do we technically know if he's being accused of match fixing as opposed to breaking an entering/robbery/drugs/etc...



nothings been confirmed yet, its all speculations right now.


It's a little more than pure speculation if he's been taken to a place that conducts investigations mainly about sports match fixing.

I hope (besides a false accusation ofc) that he participated in illegal betting and this, combined with his profession, opted the prosecutor the have him arrested or something like that.


why are you hoping that? what would that change? he would still be banned from sc2 for life wouldnt he?


Yes but this way the integrity of his accomplishments and the integrity of SC2 competitions are unharmed.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 30 2016 04:51 GMT
#672
Ruh roh.

I'm done watching GSL/SSL if this is true. I mean, a few B, C, or D level Koreans doing some match fixing is one thing. But a legend like Life? I would have a very hard time trusting the legitimacy of any one game after such an event, which is a shame, because watching Korean SC2 is one of my greatest pleasures.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3532 Posts
January 30 2016 04:52 GMT
#673
Would be a disaster if this happens to the greatest player to touch Starcraft 2.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
January 30 2016 04:59 GMT
#674
On January 30 2016 13:52 ejozl wrote:
Would be a disaster if this happens to the greatest player to touch Starcraft 2.


Luckily, Bitbybit retired years ago. Thank goodness we dodged that bullet!
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10358 Posts
January 30 2016 05:40 GMT
#675
On January 30 2016 13:51 Nuclease wrote:
Ruh roh.

I'm done watching GSL/SSL if this is true. I mean, a few B, C, or D level Koreans doing some match fixing is one thing. But a legend like Life? I would have a very hard time trusting the legitimacy of any one game after such an event, which is a shame, because watching Korean SC2 is one of my greatest pleasures.

Because only Koreans can matchfix, ok got it.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 30 2016 05:44 GMT
#676
On January 30 2016 14:40 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 13:51 Nuclease wrote:
Ruh roh.

I'm done watching GSL/SSL if this is true. I mean, a few B, C, or D level Koreans doing some match fixing is one thing. But a legend like Life? I would have a very hard time trusting the legitimacy of any one game after such an event, which is a shame, because watching Korean SC2 is one of my greatest pleasures.

Because only Koreans can matchfix, ok got it.


Well not all matchfixers are equal. We expect the highest quality games from Koreans so if the top koreans matchfix, that's no bueno.
rip passion
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
January 30 2016 05:57 GMT
#677
On January 29 2016 22:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
As a zerg, I had an idol in BW. I have an idol in SC2.

I really hope they won't both break my heart.

Let's wait out the investigation. I'm really at unease. This can't be happening.....
I'm sure this is something that he played against a matchfixer and they want to know if he was aware of the situation.



omg I feel bad for you =(
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 30 2016 05:59 GMT
#678
I really do applaud the powers that be on the site for choosing not to news this while we still have insufficient information and this entire thread is little more than speculation and doomsday scenarios. (Warranted based on the strength of the circumstancial evidence, but still.)
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
January 30 2016 06:01 GMT
#679
On January 30 2016 14:40 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 13:51 Nuclease wrote:
Ruh roh.

I'm done watching GSL/SSL if this is true. I mean, a few B, C, or D level Koreans doing some match fixing is one thing. But a legend like Life? I would have a very hard time trusting the legitimacy of any one game after such an event, which is a shame, because watching Korean SC2 is one of my greatest pleasures.

Because only Koreans can matchfix, ok got it.

It's certainly happening with enough frequency/severity to be actively detrimental to their local scene so...that's why it's such a big deal.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 30 2016 06:07 GMT
#680
On January 30 2016 14:59 Circumstance wrote:
I really do applaud the powers that be on the site for choosing not to news this while we still have insufficient information and this entire thread is little more than speculation and doomsday scenarios. (Warranted based on the strength of the circumstancial evidence, but still.)

This thread is newsed.
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