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CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
January 28 2016 08:25 GMT
#301
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
January 28 2016 08:41 GMT
#302
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.

Swarmhosts were balanced too
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
January 28 2016 08:49 GMT
#303
On January 28 2016 17:41 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.

Swarmhosts were balanced too

Yeah, I know. I'm not arguing that it is fine the way it is. I'm just sick of the endless whining. The game is ugly, but Terrans win just as much as Protoss. Apologizing to Innovation is therefore nothing more than QQing.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
January 28 2016 08:59 GMT
#304
On January 28 2016 17:49 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 17:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.

Swarmhosts were balanced too

Yeah, I know. I'm not arguing that it is fine the way it is. I'm just sick of the endless whining. The game is ugly, but Terrans win just as much as Protoss. Apologizing to Innovation is therefore nothing more than QQing.

Oh, this. yeah, agreed.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 28 2016 09:48 GMT
#305
On January 28 2016 17:49 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 17:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.

Swarmhosts were balanced too

Yeah, I know. I'm not arguing that it is fine the way it is. I'm just sick of the endless whining. The game is ugly, but Terrans win just as much as Protoss. Apologizing to Innovation is therefore nothing more than QQing.


Please stop. I didn't say PvT isn't balanced right now.

INnoVation is a player who does not deal well with dumb early game builds, this bad meta hits him especially hard.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
January 28 2016 10:48 GMT
#306
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.


But he was screwed anyway, maybe he was preparing a strategy that only worked post patch and now that its delayed his practice was wasted.

Changing the date the very same day was a really shitty move.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 28 2016 11:12 GMT
#307
Changing the date is very silly. You want to remove known abusive strategies right away.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 11:16:20
January 28 2016 11:15 GMT
#308
Poor Jjakji, the only guy playing a TvP tomorrow.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 28 2016 11:17 GMT
#309
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Inno plays after the patch goes live.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 28 2016 11:23 GMT
#310
On January 28 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Inno plays after the patch goes live.


I got all bent out of shape over nothing. :o Must have misread something. Thanks!
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway275 Posts
January 28 2016 11:42 GMT
#311
when is zergs gonna be nerfed?:/
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 28 2016 13:07 GMT
#312
On January 28 2016 20:42 MiCroLiFe wrote:
when is zergs gonna be nerfed?:/

On Friday.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17986 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 13:41:05
January 28 2016 13:40 GMT
#313
On January 28 2016 18:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 17:49 CheddarToss wrote:
On January 28 2016 17:41 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 28 2016 17:25 CheddarToss wrote:
On January 28 2016 11:01 pure.Wasted wrote:
Oops sorry INno. If only we could have foreseen Adepts being out of this world insane, maybe you wouldn't have to sit out half of this year's GSLs.

But of course I ask too much. No one could have foreseen that.

Please stop. PvT is balanced right now. You might not like the way it is balanced, but according to the numbers it is.

Swarmhosts were balanced too

Yeah, I know. I'm not arguing that it is fine the way it is. I'm just sick of the endless whining. The game is ugly, but Terrans win just as much as Protoss. Apologizing to Innovation is therefore nothing more than QQing.


Please stop. I didn't say PvT isn't balanced right now.

INnoVation is a player who does not deal well with dumb early game builds, this bad meta hits him especially hard.


that is the risk you take when you play an RTS game with racial diversity less than 6 months after its release date. its not like LotV is the first ever game to have big issues right after its release. and its not like any one was blind-sided. any one could get into the beta.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 13:49:20
January 28 2016 13:47 GMT
#314
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 28 2016 14:36 GMT
#315
On January 28 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.


Well, but GSL at least guaranteed Impact that they'd play his ZvT on a custom map with the pre-patch swarm host, so everything was fine, right?
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
January 28 2016 14:41 GMT
#316
On January 28 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.

there was only 1 zerg playing swarm host so it wasn't a big deal ;p ;p
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 14:46:33
January 28 2016 14:43 GMT
#317
On January 28 2016 23:36 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.


Well, but GSL at least guaranteed Impact that they'd play his ZvT on a custom map with the pre-patch swarm host, so everything was fine, right?

Except after the patch the custom map didn't work and he had to play on the new balance anyway. I vividly remember TB going apeshit in the LR thread over that. Funny that they care this year, isn't it?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 14:55:02
January 28 2016 14:54 GMT
#318
On January 28 2016 23:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 23:36 Big J wrote:
On January 28 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.


Well, but GSL at least guaranteed Impact that they'd play his ZvT on a custom map with the pre-patch swarm host, so everything was fine, right?

Except after the patch the custom map didn't work and he had to play on the new balance anyway. I vividly remember TB going apeshit in the LR thread over that. Funny that they care this year, isn't it?


Well, it's always good when they care about those little things which can be quite big for the particular players.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
January 28 2016 15:17 GMT
#319
On January 28 2016 23:41 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 22:47 Elentos wrote:
It was previously announced that we would be releasing a balance update to the live StarCraft II client on Thursday, January 28 (PST). Due to IEM qualifiers occurring in EU, and GSL matches that would be held immediately after the patch going live, we have opted to postpone the balance update until Friday 1/29 (PST, or Saturday 1/30 in KR).

Funny, didn't stop them from implementing the SH patch right before a Code A matchday last year.

there was only 1 zerg playing swarm host so it wasn't a big deal ;p ;p



Funny guy.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17986 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 16:42:29
January 28 2016 15:53 GMT
#320
because of what has gone down in previous years with patches... govern yourself accordingly and take responsibility for your decisions to play this game.

the cries of "this is so unfair" have the vibe of a 13 year whining to their parents about some house rule.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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