EG JD won his first GSL code A in three years...he stated, "I was very nervous, because I`d not been here for years. Though my preparation was quite poorer than that of other players, I did my best for the last few days. I`m glad that I can play games in Korea."
- Tell us what you feel; you advanced into Code A.
"I was very nervous, because I`d not been here for years. Though my preparation was quite poorer than that of other players, I did my best for the last few days. I`m glad that I can play games in Korea."
- Is there a reason why did you start practicing LotV so late?
"I had too many thoughts in my head and that`s why I`d not played HotS for a while. I could began practicing SC2 again several weeks after the release of LotV. I lacked motivation; I was lost then."
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
- You lost the first series against Bomber.
"He played well. Personally, it`s a shame that I lost the 3rd set. I cannot stop thinking about it. I tried to advanced into the code A in the first place, but I lost; The vanquished should not talk too much.
- Why didn`t you applied for SSL?
"I thought it was meaningless without proper preparation."
- I am wondering if you`ll play for EG in 2016.
"My contract expires in February. I do not know what happens afterwards."
- Are you considering your retirement?
"Not yet. However, I have the word somewhere in my mind. But that`s not now. I still retain a lingering desire for progaming." - Were you affected by other legends` retirement?
"I`d be lying if I said no. I had mingled feelings over Flash`s retirement ceremony, because he was a reliable player. Somehow, I felt lonely."
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
- What are your goals for GSL?
"It is far too early to make some statements about it. I`ll prepare it well and won`t let you down."
Sounds like he will retire after 2016 if not earlier to me.
Nice to see that he still wants to at least give it a shot in Korea, I really wish he joins a Kespa team after his contract with EG expires and give it his all one more time!
It has been a very long time since I heard from JD. It's good to hear that he still wants to compete even though legends are retiring one after another.
On December 29 2015 21:39 Elentos wrote: Jaedong sounds pretty sad.
Hm yeah a little bit :/ Interesting to hear that he decided to not play in wcs (?), i doubt EG is happy with that. There isn't really any way for him to play in proleague though, no? So he has like almost nothing to play in?
On December 29 2015 21:39 Elentos wrote: Jaedong sounds pretty sad.
Hm yeah a little bit :/ Interesting to hear that he decided to not play in wcs (?), i doubt EG is happy with that. There isn't really any way for him to play in proleague though, no? So he has like almost nothing to play in?
Well, he said his contract expires in February, so in theory he could join a Proleague team before round 2, or if he stays on EG they could partner him with a team (like the SBENU/MMA deal).
*puts fingers in his ears* CANNOT HEAR YOU!!! lalalalalalalalala!!!!
OK, my SC2 passiun reminds Titanic. 6 months ago it looked invincible(one may say unsinkable) and now it lays deep in the ocean of despair and sadness. So sad interview
JD, you have to remind yourself the year 2013 and start winning again! C'mon! Right now my beloved players are not playing or are retiring! I need some players I love to play this game so I have at least a small reason to care!
All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
"I had too many thoughts in my head and that`s why I`d not played HotS for a while. I could began practicing SC2 again several weeks after the release of LotV. I lacked motivation; I was lost then."
"great" Interview. How about asking how he was lost and why, how he did find his motivation again?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Fear in EG Dota2 is 49 years old, it's happening already.
Can someone please link me to resources/explanation of the situation of how the brawl between KESPA and Blizzard start in the first place?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
That is only possible if the game is not fast paced and things like that.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Ehm, some sport players have shorter career than JD's 10 years. This year I was watching from time to time the Rugby World Championship and I was surprised how short career these player have, under 10 years. It's not that bad.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Fear in EG Dota2 is 49 years old, it's happening already.
Can someone please link me to resources/explanation of the situation of how the brawl between KESPA and Blizzard start in the first place?
I couldn't catch the irony so he is 27 not 49 This post will terminate itself probably.
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
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I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
As a Korean I can assure that JD can play outside Korea but wanted to fulfill his promise to his Korean fans that someday he'll come back and play in Korea.
As a Korean I can assure that JD can play outside Korea but wanted to fulfill his promise to his Korean fans that someday he'll come back and play in Korea.
It is just not a good sign since he said he would do that in his final days...
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
,
I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
As a Korean I can assure that JD can play outside Korea but wanted to fulfill his promise to his Korean fans that someday he'll come back and play in Korea.
And that's why he's depressed about not playing in weekend tournaments? There's 1 confirmed KeSPA cup and he's "qualified" for 1 league(Code A ). He has plenty of free time since he's not in PL. Or am I missing something?
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
He would have liked to play in foreign tournaments and he would have been able to play in Circuit because he has a visa, but he chose not to (despite being sad about it) because he wants to spend the rest of his career in Korea. That's how I understood it.
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
He would have liked to play in foreign tournaments and he would have been able to play in Circuit because he has a visa, but he chose not to (despite being sad about it) because he wants to spend the rest of his career in Korea. That's how I understood it.
Yep that was my interpretation as well. I really hope he can somehow play in proleague that would be awesome It would be even more awesome if he somehow manages to make a good run in code s, like semi final or something, but that is extremely unlikely^^
On December 29 2015 22:58 Phanekim wrote: Good job blizzard :-/.
What has blizzard to do with this?
- Isn’t that depressing that you cannot participate in foreign Tournaments?
"I`d be lying if I said I`m not. Still, I want to play games in Korea."
Did you even read the interview? He said he is allowed to participate but doesn't want to...
- Why did you decide to return to Korea?
"EG wanted me to play in WCS Circuit, and I could because I got athletic Visa. However, I want to play games in Korea. This should be the place where I spend my last days. Once I promised to my fans that 'I`ll return to Korea before my retirement." And I`m here to keep it."
,
I read it whole. He wants to play in Korea and access foreign tournaments if I understood the thing I copied correctly.
So do I understand it wrongly and he's not depressed he cannot play or what do you try to say?
As a Korean I can assure that JD can play outside Korea but wanted to fulfill his promise to his Korean fans that someday he'll come back and play in Korea.
And that's why he's depressed about not playing in weekend tournaments? There's 1 confirmed KeSPA cup and he's "qualified" for 1 league(Code A ). He has plenty of free time since he's not in PL. Or am I missing something?
From what I understood from the original article, he did not sound depressed though he wasn't exactly happy either.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
NesTea also retired from BW before, last I checked. So really, SC2 was his second wind. :D
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
NesTea also retired from BW before, last I checked. So really, SC2 was his second wind. :D
So was JD's, but without as much success, what is your point?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
NesTea also retired from BW before, last I checked. So really, SC2 was his second wind. :D
So was JD's, but without as much success, what is your point?
My point was that JD didn't retire from BW, and then do SC2; I don't know if he's ever actually had a break from pro-gaming for more than a few months.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
NesTea also retired from BW before, last I checked. So really, SC2 was his second wind. :D
So was JD's, but without as much success, what is your point?
My point was that JD didn't retire from BW, and then do SC2; I don't know if he's ever actually had a break from pro-gaming for more than a few months.
Oh that's cool, didn't know about that. Well... one can still hope for JD fans I guess?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
NesTea also retired from BW before, last I checked. So really, SC2 was his second wind. :D
So was JD's, but without as much success, what is your point?
My point was that JD didn't retire from BW, and then do SC2; I don't know if he's ever actually had a break from pro-gaming for more than a few months.
Oh that's cool, didn't know about that. Well... one can still hope for JD fans I guess?
Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear - just woke up (despite it being almost noon). I do hope that he can survive a little longer as a pro-gamer, but it's up to him.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
I don't have any stats, but I believe the important number is that Koreans have to do their military service before they're 30 (though I can't find any solid facts on the web, this is the number I've always heard said here). So while as a Jaedong fan I'm hoping he'll keep playing as long as possible, he's definitely in the phase now where he's counting on one hand the years till he does his service. I'm not sure about the exact rules, but I haven't seen any pro's really delay till like 29, so Jaedong will probably go in one or two years.
Has joining EG cut his career short to the point where he may be retiring very soon. Mechanically he is a beast of player and when i see the changes made to Zerg in this expansion he could do really well if he trains and plays in Korea.
Lets hope he stays in the scene and shows us the real JD
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
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On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
User was warned for this post
A warning? was I supposed to put the image in spoiler????
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
User was warned for this post
A warning? was I supposed to put the image in spoiler????
Nah, you got warned for using the meme.
Is it a bad thing or the Administer just playing with me?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
User was warned for this post
A warning? was I supposed to put the image in spoiler????
Nah, you got warned for using the meme.
Is it a bad thing or the Administer just playing with me?
Memes get moderated in general here on TL, not just images but also things from Twitch chat.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
User was warned for this post
A warning? was I supposed to put the image in spoiler????
Nah, you got warned for using the meme.
Is it a bad thing or the Administer just playing with me?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Is 25/26 really that "young" for a pro-gamer? I think that he's pretty old now; his first tournament win was 8 years ago, and it's not like pro-gaming's a permanent vocation.
Does anyone actually have stats on the average SC2 player retirement age?
Well, JD can always retire at Nestea's age
I think you can only retire at that age if you created the universe.
User was warned for this post
A warning? was I supposed to put the image in spoiler????
Nah, you got warned for using the meme.
Is it a bad thing or the Administer just playing with me?
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
How does LoL (or any e-sports game) degree help you with life and your overall professional career? It's just another degree of spend-money-expect-a-lot-but-actually-you-just-owe-money-for-shitty-degree.
Hmm.. seems like the end of JD is nigh.. Just to be real, I don't see him being able to get into Code S with the skill level of he korean scene. I would've loved to see him still in WCS, I think he would've had a grand ole time wrecking the foreigners, rather than exit in Code A..
Yep, this is the last hurrah for JD, I think as a true fan you can only really hope that he joins a KESPA team one last time, finds his passion and trains HARD because the skill level out there is ridiculously high and for awhile Jaedong was losing to even foreigners that he shouldn't have been losing to.
But yea, retirement is definitely coming in 2017, but hey the dudes been playing Starcraft for a living for what, 9+ years now? Dude is rich, a borderline celebrity and I'm sure he wants to get his military service done with at least relatively soon.
Besides, who deep down doesn't just want JD to go do his military, come back, surprise everyone and start streaming BW for fun?
Kinda bummed about the WCS changes for this year & how its impacting not only the players individual careers, but also our viewing experience as fans. Regardless i hope JD plays for longer & goes on a nice run in 2016 before he decides to retire.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
How does LoL (or any e-sports game) degree help you with life and your overall professional career? It's just another degree of spend-money-expect-a-lot-but-actually-you-just-owe-money-for-shitty-degree.
My point was that athletes in the traditional sense go to college, get a degree, and play pro sports for however long (1-20 years after receiving this degree)
It would be nice if in the future this would apply for e-sports athletes (if, ever, there is a game that will last generations.) so that these players have a degree to fall back on if they end up retiring early, like they are now (in their early 20s.). The actual degree clearly doesn't help during their professional career, but like most college sports; it would be interesting if eSports ever got so big that there were national college leagues, and pro drafts, etc.
I've had a few friends play college ball and get drafted to play pro, only to retire a year or two after because they weren't cut out for it, and landed solid jobs because they had a college degree.
On another note, it really is a bummer that these players are retiring in their 20s, when its very possible to stay in form into your 30s. Take a look at nestea when he was being dominant :D
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Most of these players are well past their primes, and if they do want to go for a life outside of progaming (i.e. get a degree and start a career), around your mid-twenties is as good a time as any.
To me it seems a much better choice than making a career in gambling, which is what some other ex-BW pros are doing (Boxer comes to mind).
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
How does LoL (or any e-sports game) degree help you with life and your overall professional career? It's just another degree of spend-money-expect-a-lot-but-actually-you-just-owe-money-for-shitty-degree.
You don't get a degree in esports, just like a college basketball player doesn't get a degree in basketball
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
How does LoL (or any e-sports game) degree help you with life and your overall professional career? It's just another degree of spend-money-expect-a-lot-but-actually-you-just-owe-money-for-shitty-degree.
You don't get a degree in esports, just like a college basketball player doesn't get a degree in basketball
but any "bonus" for your degree at uni/high school? Or why I am hearing that such thing have a big relevance there?
이제동 선수는 분명히 말했다. “은퇴 생각은 안 하고 있습니다. 30대가 돼도 프로게이머가 하고 싶으면 할 수 있는 것 아닐까요. 최고령 선수가 돼서 띠동갑 선수들과 싸워 이기면 포스(Force) 있어 보이잖아요.”
rough trans: Jaedong clearly stated, "I am not thinking about retirement. I can be a progamer in my 30s if I want to. i'd really be a force to be reckoned with if I became the oldest progamer and won against people 12 years younger than me.
now 6 weeks later:
- Are you considering your retirement?
"Not yet. However, I have the word somewhere in my mind. But that`s not now. I still retain a lingering desire for progaming."
Wow, it's kind of a touching interview. I really hopes he does well and gets to Code S right away so he gains confidence and motivation to keep playing.
On December 29 2015 23:36 smOOthMayDie wrote: All of these players thinking about retiring at such a young age, it's really a shame.
Here's to hoping one day that eSports professionals play well into their 40's, like football, tennis, soccer, etc. Maybe one day there will be college sponsorships (I know theres a few here and there for league), so that players can get a degree and then continue playing professionally after school.
Dream~
Daigo Umehara is 36.
Starcraft is too harsh on the hands and mind for people to play it that long. And most other esport games are too young for it. Some DotA and FPS guys are getting to their 30s. Quite a few Fighting games players are closing in to late 30s.
이제동 선수는 분명히 말했다. “은퇴 생각은 안 하고 있습니다. 30대가 돼도 프로게이머가 하고 싶으면 할 수 있는 것 아닐까요. 최고령 선수가 돼서 띠동갑 선수들과 싸워 이기면 포스(Force) 있어 보이잖아요.”
rough trans: Jaedong clearly stated, "I am not thinking about retirement. I can be a progamer in my 30s if I want to. i'd really be a force to be reckoned with if I became the oldest progamer and won against people 12 years younger than me.
"Not yet. However, I have the word somewhere in my mind. But that`s not now. I still retain a lingering desire for progaming."
how fast shit changedl ol
For anyone who wants to read the rest of this interview~
From: jinyung2 [ 1412 posts | Profile | User Info | Report ] Subject: Re: lol Date: 12/29/15 21:36 do people not do interviews anymore? i figured this one woulda came up on TL, why do people only translate mostly generic garbage stuff? it was one of the few good progamer interviews ive read, where they actually asked questions that made ther interviewee uncomfortable lol
super duper rough trans where i just summarize unimporant stuff: was asked if he was interested in becoming a tv celebrity much like yellow but he said he wants to still be a progamer, and hes not the type to like being in front of a lot of people generally jaedong talked about, life/culture in foreign land. much more lax, able to enjoy a cup of coffee instead of that constant grind after grind this "sparta style" training that korean teams do. how even winning started to feel numb when after its all said and done it was right back to practice with no breaks. talks about how foreign tournaments the atmosphere is so much more different and he attributes that to foreigners being more outgoing and expressive than the usual calm collected style of most koreans. then he was asked about why he thinks progamers fall to matchfixing his response very deep: "there are many gamers, all with different classes and pays. those who do not excel really dont have much of a future and money wise they are lacking. i think thats why they cant help but be exposed/fall to matchfixing. these kinds of issues kespa must fix, minimum salaries, morality education, something more is needed [from their end]."
then jaedong talks about how much koreans grind in practice, no free time. suggests wouldnt quality of life go up if they were given a little bit of free time. "itll be difficult to change from how it is now. our country is very 'sparta style.' just like company employees, competition is very fierce. also because we practice that hard, koreans are best in the world.
when asked if they can change from this sparta training, he said its an overall problem stemming from korean culture. then he says like "usually progamers start in their early teens right? gamers have such a different exposure to life than normal kids who go to school so i believe they need to be supplemented with some humanity/morality education. also some english classes so players are able to give interview responses at a foreign tourney. it would be nice if there was some extra education they supplied for these young kids"
when asked if he reminicses/misses the glory of his BW days. he says i doesnt really long for it, says life back then was very restricted. even after a starleague championship, it was back to the grind. win, recieve praise, and come right back to practice. no breaks.
if he plans to play in korea again, says when he visited coex for lotv launch party, he felt koreans still had a desire for starcraft. says he plans to play in korea again some day.
next part he talks about how he wants to be progamer into his 30s if he can. interviewer continues to poke him multiple times about retiring. finally says, "if i do id like to be a progame team coach some day. I think id be good at it"
last part talks about his autobiography, "i am a progamer." says how he wanted to tell his tale. how society's perception and understanding of what a progamer is, is actually very different from what it actually is. how just because you play games its not something you should so easily pursue. a message to potential progamers in training out there.
says he didnt have muhc trouble writing the book, even though the article writer adds writing is a very tough task. jaedong says he had so many things to say it just flowed out. jaedong adds at the end "I plan to show an improved version of myself. please continue to cheer for me and notice me"
이제동 선수는 분명히 말했다. “은퇴 생각은 안 하고 있습니다. 30대가 돼도 프로게이머가 하고 싶으면 할 수 있는 것 아닐까요. 최고령 선수가 돼서 띠동갑 선수들과 싸워 이기면 포스(Force) 있어 보이잖아요.”
rough trans: Jaedong clearly stated, "I am not thinking about retirement. I can be a progamer in my 30s if I want to. i'd really be a force to be reckoned with if I became the oldest progamer and won against people 12 years younger than me.
"Not yet. However, I have the word somewhere in my mind. But that`s not now. I still retain a lingering desire for progaming."
how fast shit changedl ol
Well, you see, in both of these translations they exaggerated JD's confidence/pessimism. In the former, JD was just saying that he has no immediate plans to retire in the foreseeable future and the latter was stating that since JD rival Flash also retired, JD feels lonely and therefore almost subconsciously considers retirement.
It seems JD is having fun at least and is tired of 'train hard, no communication or free time' type of Korean gaming culture. It's not fun to be a robot. Even if he is weaker, be happy for him. We watch and play StarCraft but life isn't StarCraft only.
When you think about it, it's quite sad how many pro gamers admit they don't have a girlfriend, haven't kissed a girl or don't have enough time to have a girlfriend. Players are young and they need to enjoy themselves rather than live a life of someone isolated. JD probably suggests something like that when he talks about KeSPA and how pro gamers could be socially awkward because of how little time they spend outside gaming.
oh JD, my JD, im glad to hear that you are in this i believe in you and i will always cheer for you, best of luck this new year and wish you lots of success ♥
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