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The plot is utter nonsense. I've already posted about it on the SC2 story forum: + Show Spoiler +When Kerrigan meets Ouros, he says the cycle must continue. But in the very next cinematic when Ouros gives his power to Kerrigan, he says the cycle has ended. In the final cinematic the text says a new burst of life has been seen in the Koprulu sector suggesting that the cycle has continued under Kerrigan. In the text on the campaign page after beating the epilogue, it says the cycle has ended. Which is it, and why has it flip-flopped 4 times in consecutive scenes?
The xel'naga cycle is to merge purity of essence (protoss) and purity of form (zerg) to be reborn as xel'naga. So how can Kerrigan become a xel'naga, when she did not merge with a protoss?
Why must the xel'naga cycle continue?
Artanis reading the shrine in Ulnar: "The infinite cycle is always the same. One pure of essence, an indomitable spirit capable of great change. And one pure of form, a being capable of vast psionic potential, able to house the essence of a xel'naga".
However, if the implication here is that Kerrigan is both pure of essence and pure of form, allowing Kerrigan to become xel'naga without merging with protoss, then Blizzard has thrown the entire point of the zerg and protoss origin story out the window.
Moreover, what is the original purpose of the xel'naga Keystone/Artifact?
Artanis reading another shrine in Ulnar: "All of this time they [the xel'naga] have waited for us [zerg and protoss, presumably] to assemble the Keystone and find our way here [Ulnar]."
Based on the fact that the artifact sucks in and redirects energy and consciousness, according to Karax and the way it's been used, this suggests that the original purpose of the artifact was likely to transfer energy of the two races, purity of essence, and purity of form, into being reborn as xel'naga. However, we see that Ouros and Kerrigan is able to do this without the Keystone.
This leaves either the Keystone's original purpose unexplained or Ouros making Kerrigan a xel'naga complete nonsense.
What is with the dream scenes between Kerrigan and Raynor, and is the scene where Kerrigan finds Raynor at the Mar Sara bar real? Probably not. How can it possibly be real?
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Blizzard really wrote themselves into a corner with the Amon/Xel'Naga mythical nonsense, though up until the epilogue they actually did a decent job with it. Still, it kills some of the enjoyment of the SC1 campaign knowing that the story ends so poorly.
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"Hell, it's about TIME!" What completion of the cycle!
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On November 11 2015 10:25 paralleluniverse wrote:The plot is utter nonsense. I've already posted about it on the SC2 story forum: + Show Spoiler +When Kerrigan meets Ouros, he says the cycle must continue. But in the very next cinematic when Ouros gives his power to Kerrigan, he says the cycle has ended. In the final cinematic the text says a new burst of life has been seen in the Koprulu sector suggesting that the cycle has continued under Kerrigan. In the text on the campaign page after beating the epilogue, it says the cycle has ended. Which is it, and why has it flip-flopped 4 times in consecutive scenes?
The xel'naga cycle is to merge purity of essence (protoss) and purity of form (zerg) to be reborn as xel'naga. So how can Kerrigan become a xel'naga, when she did not merge with a protoss?
Why must the xel'naga cycle continue?
Artanis reading the shrine in Ulnar: "The infinite cycle is always the same. One pure of essence, an indomitable spirit capable of great change. And one pure of form, a being capable of vast psionic potential, able to house the essence of a xel'naga".
However, if the implication here is that Kerrigan is both pure of essence and pure of form, allowing Kerrigan to become xel'naga without merging with protoss, then Blizzard has thrown the entire point of the zerg and protoss origin story out the window.
Moreover, what is the original purpose of the xel'naga Keystone/Artifact?
Artanis reading another shrine in Ulnar: "All of this time they [the xel'naga] have waited for us [zerg and protoss, presumably] to assemble the Keystone and find our way here [Ulnar]."
Based on the fact that the artifact sucks in and redirects energy and consciousness, according to Karax and the way it's been used, this suggests that the original purpose of the artifact was likely to transfer energy of the two races, purity of essence, and purity of form, into being reborn as xel'naga. However, we see that Ouros and Kerrigan is able to do this without the Keystone.
This leaves either the Keystone's original purpose unexplained or Ouros making Kerrigan a xel'naga complete nonsense.
What is with the dream scenes between Kerrigan and Raynor, and is the scene where Kerrigan finds Raynor at the Mar Sara bar real? Probably not. How can it possibly be real?
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah... I am pretty confused on things seems like there are a lot of plot holes that blizz are going to have to go over in 10 years with starcraft 3. The whole taldarim betraying amon arc was a bit confusing at first as well god damn it was a fun campaign to play but the story left me with some question marks over my head at times.
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I'm just going to assume that everything Raynor saw in the ending was just his deranged imagination while suffering from PTSD.
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On November 11 2015 16:19 Caihead wrote: I'm just going to assume that everything Raynor saw in the ending was just his deranged imagination while suffering from PTSD.
+ Show Spoiler +He commits suicide in order to be with Kerrigan. The part of him getting to be with her again is symbolic. I hope. Kinda. Because otherwise this makes no sense. Actually, it doesn't make sense no matter what, but this makes the most sense.
But really, I was wtf'ing most of the story. It was at least better than HotS.
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Thank god this game has incredible gameplay because god damn is the story shithouse.
Lets try and interpret the ending:
- Raynor commits suicide - Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending
What do we think?
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Even though I thought the epilogue missions were wtf (and in general the whole prophecy thing since HotS didn't really feel right in the Starcraft world for me)...
On November 11 2015 17:38 schmutttt wrote:- Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending
What do we think?
That is exactly how I took the ending scene, and it really did make me smile.
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So, Tassadar was a Xel'naga ALL ALONG. He just...forgot?
And kerrigan turns into a naked fire space angel. And then kills space satan. And then disappears with raynor and they make flowers?
Oh blizzard. One day you'll hire an actual writer. One day...
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I think the biggest point of contention is actualy + Show Spoiler +Ouros' motif and why he didn't just outright tell Zeratul what Amon's plan was. He obviously had extensive knowledge of past events that occurred in BW and could easily bypass the deception by offering them valuable information. Unless this is actually a plot point and just got lost in the writing revamps.
I actually think some of the writers tried to salvage the story. It's heavily implied that Amon is actually someone who was forced into becoming a Xel'naga just like Kerrigan and despised that fact, which then served as the motivation for wanting to break the cycle.
I think there was an intention to say that the Xel'naga wanted to perpetuate their rule to the end of time by having the dominant species in the universe always loop back to sustain their race. It is shown clearly that even though they are highly technological and powerful, they are not in any way beyond the toils of time or physical ailments.
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On November 11 2015 21:11 I_love_sharkpeople wrote: So, Tassadar was a Xel'naga ALL ALONG. He just...forgot?
And kerrigan turns into a naked fire space angel. And then kills space satan. And then disappears with raynor and they make flowers?
Oh blizzard. One day you'll hire an actual writer. One day...
No, the Xel'Naga just impersonated Tassadar in the WoL mission to manipulate Zeratul. Nothing more
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sc1 story was just better because they could "mystify" more. It's hard to bring a story, which lives so much from the "mystery" behind it, to a good ending.. but y this ending is pretty fucked up
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On November 11 2015 17:38 schmutttt wrote: Thank god this game has incredible gameplay because god damn is the story shithouse.
Lets try and interpret the ending:
- Raynor commits suicide - Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending
What do we think?
We all hope it was the first one, but we all know it was the second one. Is there any real evidence to the contrary?
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On November 12 2015 00:07 fezvez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 21:11 I_love_sharkpeople wrote: So, Tassadar was a Xel'naga ALL ALONG. He just...forgot?
And kerrigan turns into a naked fire space angel. And then kills space satan. And then disappears with raynor and they make flowers?
Oh blizzard. One day you'll hire an actual writer. One day... No, the Xel'Naga just impersonated Tassadar in the WoL mission to manipulate Zeratul. Nothing more
Oh, well that kinda redeems that part of the story. That scene was easily the lamest part of WoL for me.
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That was truly bad on a few different levels. No grittiness .. so many monologues. Cut scenes should be able to hold their own without constant conversation or blabbering. Some of the fight scenes were good, but they became tiresome. Just protoss with light sabers jumping around. Anyways, I always thought the story of 3 species fighting for survival was more intriguing than the more individualistic story approach Blizz has taken from WOL onward.
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I always thought Kerrigan's humanness (not humanity, I mean that she is physically part human), would come into play eventually. I mean how could it not since it sits in stark contrast to alleged "purity of essence". There's nothing pure about her, she's her own type of hybrid, and I thought that'd be how the cycle ends since terran are the factor the xel naga never accounted for. But nope. Fire flame Phoenix girl GG
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Dammit they went for a happy ending. They had something when they killed-off Zeratul, made the character even more awesome dying a heroes death. I thought they were going for something darker for Kerigan, having her de-infested then re-infested -- I thought: well they won't de-infest her again. Then wtf, they de-infest her again (yeah that's what they did) another way in the end.
Then they seem to want to be rid of this Raynor/Kerigan drama. What they should have done is killed off both characters instead of having them ride off into the sunset:
1. Amon so powerfull everyone starts loosing, before all this essence shit is 100% 2. Amon kills Ouros before the essence shit reaches 50% (so Ouros shows us how badass Anon is instead of vaporizing) 3. Artanis is fatally wounded and forced to warp back to the spear 4. The Hyperion blows up, Jim Raynor is dead as well as every one else on his ship (coz if you write out Jim, all those other characters are shit -- and what the hell my boy Tychus is dead anyway) 5. Kerrigan goes noooooOOOoooo then rages out 6. Human Rage > Essence Shit (see? that's why a human overmind is significant) 7. She proceeds to go kamikaze on Amon and they both die in the process -- No more Xelnaga (coz if they aint gonna make a playable race then who cares) 8. Biggest explosion ever 9. Now you have a proper ending where Artanis is weeping the loss of Tassadar, Zeratul and Raynor -- maybe even Kerigan. 10. Explosion can be seen from dying Earth, where UED is preparing a full fleet --bigger than the golden armada to colonize the Koprulu. Tech so awesome, they are bringing the moon with them. None of that terran pleb stuff -- all new units for us to play with.
Now everyone is pumped for SC3.
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Yeah. Pretty shit story. Not as bad as it could've been with how they set it up in WoL (at least they resolved that horrible Tassadar ghost well).
In the very end, it seems like Kerrigan fixes a number of things in the universe (such as life on koprolu sector) and then she probably sees poor raynor sulking still (and rightly so) so she takes her old 'sarah kerrigan the ghost' guise up (I'm pretty sure she can look like whatever she wants outside of the void) and whisks Raynor away for fun times and sex together. Raynor is never seen again until the next retcon.
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