
Legacy of the Void All Cutscenes *** SPOILER ***
Forum Index > SC2 General |
smitrovic
Serbia21 Posts
![]() | ||
lestye
United States4163 Posts
| ||
Descent
1244 Posts
| ||
Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Kerrigan becomes Phoenix? Almost didn't spoiler that shit. Honestly I think it's time for a lore reboot because I have no idea what's going on O_O. | ||
hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! | ||
Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + She "becomes" a Xel'Naga? And then she destroys the true form of Amon? And who was the girl at the end? They made a point of showing her red hair. | ||
Latham
9560 Posts
On November 10 2015 17:28 Spaylz wrote: So, yeah, what was that? + Show Spoiler + She "becomes" a Xel'Naga? And then she destroys the true form of Amon? And who was the girl at the end? They made a point of showing her red hair. + Show Spoiler + Kerrigan consumes or is given the power of a "good" alive ancient Xel'Naga, she becomes a God herself (Phoenix is adequate lel), goes to fight Amon in his true body of an ancient Xel'Naga and destroys him. Later on Kerrigan is somehow completely deinfested and joins Raynor. I guess they (Kerrigan and Amon) didn't mutually destroy each other, but her god-like powers upon running out deinfested her completely? I dunno, that's my interpretation. #FireMetzen, so goddamn cliche. | ||
hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
![]() | ||
sertas
Sweden887 Posts
| ||
REyeM
2674 Posts
From what I saw, it looks pretty bad, like even worse than before. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
![]() + Show Spoiler + Zeratul made it so far to sacrifice himself in a weird way. Why all the good protoses aiming holy sacrifice? He was a good character if not the best :/ | ||
hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On November 10 2015 19:20 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: ah...i'm a bit upset about key character got killed ![]() + Show Spoiler + Zeratul made it so far to sacrifice himself in a weird way. Why all the good protoses aiming holy sacrifice? He was a good character if not the best :/ Dont worry. He'll be back. Remember, it's | ||
Deathstar
9150 Posts
| ||
Deathstar
9150 Posts
They killed StarCraft lore in WoL and then raped it with HotS. I think by now original SC story is just spinning in its grave like a turbine. | ||
GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
| ||
-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On November 10 2015 23:49 GizmoPT wrote: tbh it's a nice ending to this mess of a story. only thing that bothers me is wtf they done to Fenix.. Yeah, I loved his two hero forms in BW. In fact they were my 2 favorite of all characters. However, the remake thing here was almost painful T_T.... The ending was pretty unbearable... the last hour of my stream while beating the game is me just being like "wow...." >.>... | ||
LennX
4549 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It's like a ripoff of X3 the last stand -_-" We may need a total reboot of the series for SC3 10years down the road. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Kerrigan doesn't just stay dead. Let's put aside that becoming fire space Jesus mark II is pretty silly. But why not just let her fucking die? It's not good writing to just un-kill a character right after killing them for good, even in comic books and crappy Shonen they wait a while. | ||
Riner1212
United States337 Posts
| ||
Cele
Germany4016 Posts
| ||
paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + When Kerrigan meets Ouros, he says the cycle must continue. But in the very next cinematic when Ouros gives his power to Kerrigan, he says the cycle has ended. In the final cinematic the text says a new burst of life has been seen in the Koprulu sector suggesting that the cycle has continued under Kerrigan. In the text on the campaign page after beating the epilogue, it says the cycle has ended. Which is it, and why has it flip-flopped 4 times in consecutive scenes? The xel'naga cycle is to merge purity of essence (protoss) and purity of form (zerg) to be reborn as xel'naga. So how can Kerrigan become a xel'naga, when she did not merge with a protoss? Why must the xel'naga cycle continue? Artanis reading the shrine in Ulnar: "The infinite cycle is always the same. One pure of essence, an indomitable spirit capable of great change. And one pure of form, a being capable of vast psionic potential, able to house the essence of a xel'naga". However, if the implication here is that Kerrigan is both pure of essence and pure of form, allowing Kerrigan to become xel'naga without merging with protoss, then Blizzard has thrown the entire point of the zerg and protoss origin story out the window. Moreover, what is the original purpose of the xel'naga Keystone/Artifact? Artanis reading another shrine in Ulnar: "All of this time they [the xel'naga] have waited for us [zerg and protoss, presumably] to assemble the Keystone and find our way here [Ulnar]." Based on the fact that the artifact sucks in and redirects energy and consciousness, according to Karax and the way it's been used, this suggests that the original purpose of the artifact was likely to transfer energy of the two races, purity of essence, and purity of form, into being reborn as xel'naga. However, we see that Ouros and Kerrigan is able to do this without the Keystone. This leaves either the Keystone's original purpose unexplained or Ouros making Kerrigan a xel'naga complete nonsense. What is with the dream scenes between Kerrigan and Raynor, and is the scene where Kerrigan finds Raynor at the Mar Sara bar real? Probably not. How can it possibly be real? | ||
iamho
United States3347 Posts
| ||
TedCruz2016
Hong Kong271 Posts
| ||
Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
On November 11 2015 10:25 paralleluniverse wrote: The plot is utter nonsense. I've already posted about it on the SC2 story forum: + Show Spoiler + When Kerrigan meets Ouros, he says the cycle must continue. But in the very next cinematic when Ouros gives his power to Kerrigan, he says the cycle has ended. In the final cinematic the text says a new burst of life has been seen in the Koprulu sector suggesting that the cycle has continued under Kerrigan. In the text on the campaign page after beating the epilogue, it says the cycle has ended. Which is it, and why has it flip-flopped 4 times in consecutive scenes? The xel'naga cycle is to merge purity of essence (protoss) and purity of form (zerg) to be reborn as xel'naga. So how can Kerrigan become a xel'naga, when she did not merge with a protoss? Why must the xel'naga cycle continue? Artanis reading the shrine in Ulnar: "The infinite cycle is always the same. One pure of essence, an indomitable spirit capable of great change. And one pure of form, a being capable of vast psionic potential, able to house the essence of a xel'naga". However, if the implication here is that Kerrigan is both pure of essence and pure of form, allowing Kerrigan to become xel'naga without merging with protoss, then Blizzard has thrown the entire point of the zerg and protoss origin story out the window. Moreover, what is the original purpose of the xel'naga Keystone/Artifact? Artanis reading another shrine in Ulnar: "All of this time they [the xel'naga] have waited for us [zerg and protoss, presumably] to assemble the Keystone and find our way here [Ulnar]." Based on the fact that the artifact sucks in and redirects energy and consciousness, according to Karax and the way it's been used, this suggests that the original purpose of the artifact was likely to transfer energy of the two races, purity of essence, and purity of form, into being reborn as xel'naga. However, we see that Ouros and Kerrigan is able to do this without the Keystone. This leaves either the Keystone's original purpose unexplained or Ouros making Kerrigan a xel'naga complete nonsense. What is with the dream scenes between Kerrigan and Raynor, and is the scene where Kerrigan finds Raynor at the Mar Sara bar real? Probably not. How can it possibly be real? + Show Spoiler + Yeah... I am pretty confused on things seems like there are a lot of plot holes that blizz are going to have to go over in 10 years with starcraft 3. The whole taldarim betraying amon arc was a bit confusing at first as well god damn it was a fun campaign to play but the story left me with some question marks over my head at times. | ||
Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
| ||
Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On November 11 2015 16:19 Caihead wrote: I'm just going to assume that everything Raynor saw in the ending was just his deranged imagination while suffering from PTSD. + Show Spoiler + He commits suicide in order to be with Kerrigan. The part of him getting to be with her again is symbolic. I hope. Kinda. Because otherwise this makes no sense. Actually, it doesn't make sense no matter what, but this makes the most sense. But really, I was wtf'ing most of the story. It was at least better than HotS. | ||
schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
Lets try and interpret the ending: - Raynor commits suicide - Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending What do we think? | ||
frajen86
168 Posts
On November 11 2015 17:38 schmutttt wrote:- Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending What do we think? That is exactly how I took the ending scene, and it really did make me smile. | ||
I_love_sharkpeople
United States253 Posts
And kerrigan turns into a naked fire space angel. And then kills space satan. And then disappears with raynor and they make flowers? Oh blizzard. One day you'll hire an actual writer. One day... | ||
Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
Ouros' motif and why he didn't just outright tell Zeratul what Amon's plan was. He obviously had extensive knowledge of past events that occurred in BW and could easily bypass the deception by offering them valuable information. Unless this is actually a plot point and just got lost in the writing revamps. I actually think some of the writers tried to salvage the story. It's heavily implied that Amon is actually someone who was forced into becoming a Xel'naga just like Kerrigan and despised that fact, which then served as the motivation for wanting to break the cycle. I think there was an intention to say that the Xel'naga wanted to perpetuate their rule to the end of time by having the dominant species in the universe always loop back to sustain their race. It is shown clearly that even though they are highly technological and powerful, they are not in any way beyond the toils of time or physical ailments. | ||
fezvez
France3021 Posts
On November 11 2015 21:11 I_love_sharkpeople wrote: So, Tassadar was a Xel'naga ALL ALONG. He just...forgot? And kerrigan turns into a naked fire space angel. And then kills space satan. And then disappears with raynor and they make flowers? Oh blizzard. One day you'll hire an actual writer. One day... No, the Xel'Naga just impersonated Tassadar in the WoL mission to manipulate Zeratul. Nothing more | ||
Daxten
Germany127 Posts
| ||
Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 11 2015 17:38 schmutttt wrote: Thank god this game has incredible gameplay because god damn is the story shithouse. Lets try and interpret the ending: - Raynor commits suicide - Kerrigan is actually somehow in human form (The Xel'Naga can take various forms, Duran being an example) and Raynor goes off with her for his happy ending What do we think? We all hope it was the first one, but we all know it was the second one. Is there any real evidence to the contrary? | ||
lestye
United States4163 Posts
On November 12 2015 00:07 fezvez wrote: No, the Xel'Naga just impersonated Tassadar in the WoL mission to manipulate Zeratul. Nothing more Oh, well that kinda redeems that part of the story. That scene was easily the lamest part of WoL for me. | ||
tehredbanditt
103 Posts
| ||
TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
| ||
Don.681
Philippines189 Posts
Then they seem to want to be rid of this Raynor/Kerigan drama. What they should have done is killed off both characters instead of having them ride off into the sunset: 1. Amon so powerfull everyone starts loosing, before all this essence shit is 100% 2. Amon kills Ouros before the essence shit reaches 50% (so Ouros shows us how badass Anon is instead of vaporizing) 3. Artanis is fatally wounded and forced to warp back to the spear 4. The Hyperion blows up, Jim Raynor is dead as well as every one else on his ship (coz if you write out Jim, all those other characters are shit -- and what the hell my boy Tychus is dead anyway) 5. Kerrigan goes noooooOOOoooo then rages out 6. Human Rage > Essence Shit (see? that's why a human overmind is significant) 7. She proceeds to go kamikaze on Amon and they both die in the process -- No more Xelnaga (coz if they aint gonna make a playable race then who cares) 8. Biggest explosion ever 9. Now you have a proper ending where Artanis is weeping the loss of Tassadar, Zeratul and Raynor -- maybe even Kerigan. 10. Explosion can be seen from dying Earth, where UED is preparing a full fleet --bigger than the golden armada to colonize the Koprulu. Tech so awesome, they are bringing the moon with them. None of that terran pleb stuff -- all new units for us to play with. Now everyone is pumped for SC3. | ||
willoc
Canada1530 Posts
In the very end, it seems like Kerrigan fixes a number of things in the universe (such as life on koprolu sector) and then she probably sees poor raynor sulking still (and rightly so) so she takes her old 'sarah kerrigan the ghost' guise up (I'm pretty sure she can look like whatever she wants outside of the void) and whisks Raynor away for fun times and sex together. Raynor is never seen again until the next retcon. | ||
| ||