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Match-fixing: Prosecutor's Report

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Waxangel
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United States33201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 02:35:22
October 19 2015 08:38 GMT
#1
The following is a translation of the official report from the Changwon Regional Prosecution Service’s special investigations division. The case has not gone to trial and the following allegations have yet to be proven in a court of law.

This translated investigation report has been edited for clarity. Some redundant and extraneous portions have been omitted (they may be added later for completeness' sake). Some supplementary information has been added in blue text. The original documents can be downloaded HERE.



StarCraft 2 Match-Fixing Investigation Result:
- 12 identified, 9 indicted and arrested, 2 indicted (not arrested), 1 wanted



The Changwon Regional Prosecution Service’s special investigations division has investigated match-fixing in StarCraft 2 and identified twelve individuals involved, including a head coach, current and former progamers, and brokers. Nine have been indicted and arrested, two have been indicted but not arrested, and one suspect is currently at large.

  • NINE Indicted and arrested: One head coach and two progamers from a StarCraft 2 progaming team, who received between 5,000,000~20,000,000 won to fix the result of FIVE matches. One ex-progamer and four other BROKERS, who posed as sponsors or used personal relationships to solicit match-fixing. TWO gangsters who acted as FINANCIAL BACKERS who bet on illegal websites and provided the compensation for match-fixing.

  • TWO RECRUITERS who recruited members for gambling "clubs" have been indicted but not arrested. One of their accomplices is wanted.

By revealing not only top-class progamers but a currently active head coach, and the ENTIRE NETWORK of broker and financial backers behind them, the reality of the previously rumored StarCraft 2 match-fixing scene has been revealed.

We plan to continue enforcing the law against match-fixers who would impede fairness in society.



I. The Defendants


*Though the investigators did not name Gerrard, YoDa, BBoongBBoong, or Enough by name, their identities have been widely reported by Korean media. They will be referred to directly throughout this translation.

"A"(age 31) Gerrard: Head coach of StarCraft 2 pro team BLANK (Prime). Indicted and arrested.

"B"(22) YoDa, "C"(29) BBoongBBoong: StarCraft 2 progamers. Indicted and arrested.

"D"(33) Enough (former SC1 pro and journalist), "E"(39), "F"(38), "G"(28): Brokers. Indicted and arrested.

"H"(36, member of criminal organization X). "I"(26, member of criminal organization Y): Financial backers. Indicted and arrested.

"J"(25), "K"(38): Recruiters for gambling sites. Indicted, not arrested.

*12 identified suspects, 9 Indicted and arrested, 2 indicted but not arrested, 1 at large.
*See Appendix (1) for detailed list of charges.



II. INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS


August, 2015: Based on a report about suspected match-fixing in StarCraft 2, the investigation began in earnest with the arrest of financial backer "I."

September-October, 2015: Gerrard and nine others were indicted and arrested in relation to match-fixing.



III. CASE DETAILS.


1. Match-fixing in multiple StarCraft 2 leagues: Five games fixed in total.

  • A total of five games were fixed across multiple leagues: SKT Proleague, GSL Season 1 Code S Ro16, GSL Season 2 Code A Ro48, and GSL Season 2 Code S Ro32.

  • Because StarCraft 2 is played one-on-one, it is easier to fix than other competitions. Thus, matches in both team tournaments (Proleague) and individual tournaments (GSL) were fixed.

  • *See Appendix (2) for specific game details and the role of each defendant.


2. Active head coaches, famous pro-gamers participated in match-fixing.

  • Though there were cases of players engaging in match-fixing in StarCraft 1 and offline sports, this case is unique in that an active coach collaborated with players on his own team.

  • Despite his obligation to protect YoDa and BBoongBBoong from match-fixing, Gerrard introduced them to brokers or directly solicited match-fixing himself, receiving considerable compensation in the process.

  • YoDa was a top-class progamer who had previous won championships or placed runner-up in international tournaments. However, it did not prevent him from accepting considerable compensation to manipulate match results.

  • The head coach and progamers agreed to manipulate the results of matches in a variety of easy ways: Simply losing, going over time (e.g. game lasts longer than 15 minutes regardless of result), going under time (e.g. game lasts less than 15 minutes regardless of result), losing under time (e.g. losing in less than 15 minutes), etc.


3. Brokers approached the players in a variety of ways.

  • Posing as sponsors and arranging match fixing.
    • Brokers approached under the guise of being sponsors. Acquired services through head coach, then approached players directly. Later forced match-fixing services through player extortion.
    • Brokers "E" and "F" posed as sponsors and gave the team small amounts of operating funds to earn Gerrard’s trust before suggesting match-fixing.
    • At first they acquired the progamer's services through Gerrard, but after one successful fix, the player was contacted directly by the broker and offered large compensation for match-fixing.
    • After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings.


  • Ex-progamer and gaming journalist as broker.
    • Enough, who had been active as a famous SC1 progamer, gaming journalist, and broadcast host, had many connections with head coaches, players, and others in the industry.
    • Enough used his relationships with Gerrard and YoDa to naturally approach them and offer them match-fixing for a large fee.


  • Attempts to solicit match-fixing through social media.
    • Broker "G"made dozens of attempts to blindly offer match-fixing opportunities to progamers or their acquaintances through Facebook posts.
    • Progamers declined such offers and thus match-fixing did not occur through the above route. However, "G" still received tens of millions of won (10,000,000 won is approximately $9000 USD) from financial backer "I" under the premise of “operating funds.”
    • *The fact that progamers are constantly exposed to match-fixing offers has been reported by the media. Related media stories include: Facebook harassment, a progamer's sister approached about match-fixing, a broker being imprisoned by financial backer for his failure to arrange a fixed match, etc.


4. Revenue model of "financial backers" (members of organized crime groups)

  • Betting directly on illegal betting websites.
    • Backer "H" gave brokers funds to arrange the match manipulation, and then proceeded to use illegal gambling websites to bet on the matches. The winnings became revenue, and funds for further match-fixing.
    • The actual profit for financial backers was not particularly great. The maximum bet size for one person on an illegal gambling site was around 1,000,000 won (approximately $900), with a payout of around 1.3~1.5x. Matches rumored to be fixed sometimes had their bets cancelled. In the case of broker "G," the broker gave false information on a fixed-match but still received payment from the financial backer.
    • "H" received back the 25,000,000 won he gave broker "E" in its entirety. After betting approximately 31,500,000 on two matches, his total winnings were 41,500,000 won.
    • *The sites used by "H" have all been closed.


  • Receiving commissions from "betting club" members.
    • Backer "I" gave broker "G" funds to arrange match fixing. Once he received information on matches to be fixed, he made recruiters "J" and "K" go to net cafes, etc. and recruit members for a "betting club." "I" received a commission of 30% or more from the members.
    • "I" was able to collect approximately 35,000,000 won in commissions from around 50 club members. Part of the money went to broker "G" as operating funds.



IV. Meaning of the Investigation



1. First time an active head coach was discovered in SC2 match fixing.

  • This is the first time the previously rumored StarCraft 2 match-fixing has been uncovered.
  • Though various measures were taken to prevent match-fixing from happening again after the 2010 SC1 match-fixing scandal, a severe moral hazard was discovered with top class progamers and even head coaches participating.


2. Thorough investigation leading to discovery of all offenders.

  • Through a clandestine and tenacious investigation, not only were the match-fixing progamers caught, but the entire network of brokers and financial backers behind them was found as well. This contributes to preventing the recurrence of match-fixing.
  • The methods for arranging match-fixing, as well as the revenue models behind match-fixing have been brought to light.


3. Opportunity to form a healthy esports culture.

  • Esports declined after the 2010 match-fixing scandal. Recently, there have been many efforts to try and help esports regain its former glory, such as the opening of dedicated arenas, the revival of various tournaments, opening up of esports admissions for universities, etc.
  • Outside the material infrastructure listed above, this investigation seeks to awake the kind of awareness needed to preserve the spirit of fairness that is at the heart of wholesome sports culture.



V. Going forward.


We will continue to crack down on the match-fixing and illegal internet gambling that harms the fairness of society. We plan to do everything we can to help establish wholesome esports culture.



Appendix (1): Charges against the defendants


Additional information and VOD links on the five manipulated matches have been provided.

1.Gerrard
  • SPL 2015 - January 20: BBoongBBoong vs. Flash (VOD)

    Gerrard received 5,000,000 won from broker "E." Gerrard then then suggested match-fixing to BBoongBBoong and transferred the 5,000,000 won to him. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • Code S Ro16 Season 1 - February 13: YoDa vs Life OR TY. (VOD vs Life)(VOD vs TY)
    Unknown which match or matches in the series the charge refers to.

    Gerrard received requests from brokers "E" and "F" to introduce him to YoDa, and he followed through on the request. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • Code S Ro32 Season 2 - May 13: YoDa vs Bbyong OR Symbol. (VOD vs Bbyong), (VOD vs Symbol)
    Unknown which match or matches in the series the charge refers to.

    Gerrard received 10,000,000 won from Enough to arrange YoDa to match-fix. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • December 2014 ~ March 2015: Gerrard spent over 57,000,000 won on internet gambling.[Gambling]


YoDa
  • Code S Ro16 Season 1 - February 13: YoDa vs Life OR TY. (VOD vs Life)(VOD vs TY)
    Unknown which match or matches in the series the charge refers to.

    YoDa was introduced to brokers "E" and "F" by Gerrard. YoDa then received 20,000,000 won in return for intentionally losing a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • Code A Ro48 Season 2 - April 1: YoDa vs DRG (VOD)

    YoDa accepted requests from brokers "E" and "F" to intentionally lose a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • Code S Ro32 Season 2 - May 13: YoDa vs Bbyong OR Symbol. (VOD vs Bbyong), (VOD vs Symbol)
    Unknown which match or matches in the series the charge refers to.

    YoDa received 10,000,000 won from Enough in return for intentionally losing a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]

  • SPL 2015 - June 9: YoDa vs HerO. (VOD)

    YoDa accepted requests from brokers "E" and "F" to intentionally lose a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]



BBoongBBoong
  • SPL 2015 - January 20: BBoongBBoong vs. Flash (VOD)

    Through Gerrard, BBoongBBoong received 5,000,000 won from broker "E" in return for intentionally losing a match.[Bribery, Obstruction]


Detailed list of charges against financial backers and brokers. May add later.


Appendix (2)


Almost completely redundant information from Appendix (1), but indexed by match. May add later.


Appendix (3): Diagrams


CHART 1:
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CHART 2:
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Aeromi
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France14456 Posts
October 19 2015 08:39 GMT
#2
Thanks Wax for translating this document.
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lichter
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October 19 2015 08:45 GMT
#3
Wow they are basically clearing everyone else? Dang.
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JabuSeika
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United States607 Posts
October 19 2015 08:45 GMT
#4
Wait what...

"Gerrard spent over 57,000,000 won on internet gambling."

Fuck this guy.
Musicus
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Germany23576 Posts
October 19 2015 08:46 GMT
#5
Thanks a lot Wax!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
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France9263 Posts
October 19 2015 08:49 GMT
#6
Thanks a lot wax
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France16890 Posts
October 19 2015 09:07 GMT
#7
madness
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DreamOen
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Spain1400 Posts
October 19 2015 09:28 GMT
#8
Thanks for the hard work and translation. We will see how this will affect LotV growth and so on.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
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October 19 2015 09:33 GMT
#9
I can't believe I used to root for someone who would fix his FIRST SPL match ever... *sob*
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October 19 2015 09:45 GMT
#10
those are some cute diagrams they drew up
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Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
October 19 2015 09:48 GMT
#11
With luck, some good can come out of this - ideally, H and I will rat on the larger forces at work here in exchange for lighter sentences. If we can get those out of the picture, we won't get any "suspicious match" threads in Legacy
I know how naively optimistic that sounds, but we need some optimism right now.
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CometNine
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New Zealand87 Posts
October 19 2015 09:54 GMT
#12
Quite Informative Wax. Thanks.
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October 19 2015 10:36 GMT
#13
Dat blackmail doe #grimy
Penev
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October 19 2015 10:54 GMT
#14
Thanks Wax.

I remember 5 other higly suspicious incidents (players). I wonder if we'll hear about them as well eventionally.

•Through a clandestine and tenacious investigation, not only were the match-fixing progamers caught, but the entire network of brokers and financial backers behind them was found as well. This contributes to preventing the recurrence of match-fixing.


That's not how crime works, unfortunately. It will stop this group at least though. That's nice of course.
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ZAiNs
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United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 19 2015 11:02 GMT
#15
On October 19 2015 17:45 JabuSeika wrote:
Wait what...

"Gerrard spent over 57,000,000 won on internet gambling."

Fuck this guy.

He even streamed his online gambling on Twitch: ' GerrardPrime playing Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft '.

http://www.twitch.tv/gerrardprime
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October 19 2015 11:20 GMT
#16
Good stuff, thanks.
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Canada94 Posts
October 19 2015 11:38 GMT
#17
So brokers are actually ninjas? Everything makes sense now.
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Ovid
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October 19 2015 11:43 GMT
#18
What a translation, I feel really bad for Yoda and B4 they got put into a situation where they do something illegal a couple of times a year in order to keep their progaming careers alive, the irony though is you could probably have bet on them losing without paying them to lose.
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October 19 2015 12:18 GMT
#19
It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-19 12:23:16
October 19 2015 12:23 GMT
#20
On October 19 2015 21:18 DoctorHot wrote:
It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now.

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Last Edited: 2015-10-19 16:08:48
October 19 2015 16:08 GMT
#21
...thanks for the translation!

...no words for describing the sadness this kind of stuff can infuse me... meh..
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
October 19 2015 16:42 GMT
#22
Thanks for the translation.

We suspected this has been happening for a while. Positively, they've finally caught some of the people involved. Hopefully this discourages it from happening again, at least for a while...
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Wuster
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October 19 2015 17:05 GMT
#23
On October 19 2015 21:18 DoctorHot wrote:
It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yoda the underdog in all of those matches?

In which case it is the perfect situation for a gambler to fix. Yoda's good enough to drive action on the game, but as an underdog no one will bat an eye if he loses. Even if he does a bad job pretending, then it's just him 'cracking under pressure' of facing a better opponent.

Not that I'm an expert on match-fixing, but that's how I understand it working, you bet the underdog in order to remove uncertainty (because that's all you care about, going from 75% odds to 100%) and avoid suspicion. If you get greedy and pay the favorite the take dives, well you have to offer him a lot more for one and it's a lot more suspicious for two.
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October 19 2015 17:25 GMT
#24
thanks very much for your hard work
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October 19 2015 17:34 GMT
#25
Just... wow.
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showstealer1829
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Australia3123 Posts
October 19 2015 17:36 GMT
#26
On October 20 2015 02:05 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 21:18 DoctorHot wrote:
It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yoda the underdog in all of those matches?

In which case it is the perfect situation for a gambler to fix. Yoda's good enough to drive action on the game, but as an underdog no one will bat an eye if he loses. Even if he does a bad job pretending, then it's just him 'cracking under pressure' of facing a better opponent.

Not that I'm an expert on match-fixing, but that's how I understand it working, you bet the underdog in order to remove uncertainty (because that's all you care about, going from 75% odds to 100%) and avoid suspicion. If you get greedy and pay the favorite the take dives, well you have to offer him a lot more for one and it's a lot more suspicious for two.


It's a sound theory, it would lend credence to the Innovation and Soulkey suspect matches being the "fake" fixes at least
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 19 2015 19:00 GMT
#27
Thanks for the detailed translation that makes it all a lot more clear.

I also like the graphics.
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masterrn
Profile Joined January 2015
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October 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#28
wait what about MarineKingPrime getting crawler rushed??
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
October 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#29
On October 20 2015 04:12 masterrn wrote:
wait what about MarineKingPrime getting crawler rushed??


Depends on who's telling the story. Either no proof found or still being investigated. I'd like to think the former and he just went full MarineKing
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Wuster
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October 19 2015 19:23 GMT
#30
On October 20 2015 02:36 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 02:05 Wuster wrote:
On October 19 2015 21:18 DoctorHot wrote:
It always amazes me that it isn't the bad players who are throwing players but the ones who have been really good. But then again, they have more to gain - since they're good, more people will be betting FOR them, and they'll be able to make more money off the loss. So maybe they good players are what you need to watch out for? I'm all confused now.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yoda the underdog in all of those matches?

In which case it is the perfect situation for a gambler to fix. Yoda's good enough to drive action on the game, but as an underdog no one will bat an eye if he loses. Even if he does a bad job pretending, then it's just him 'cracking under pressure' of facing a better opponent.

Not that I'm an expert on match-fixing, but that's how I understand it working, you bet the underdog in order to remove uncertainty (because that's all you care about, going from 75% odds to 100%) and avoid suspicion. If you get greedy and pay the favorite the take dives, well you have to offer him a lot more for one and it's a lot more suspicious for two.


It's a sound theory, it would lend credence to the Innovation and Soulkey suspect matches being the "fake" fixes at least


Keep in mind there was speculation that a lot of games aren't actually being fixed in the traditional sense, but to manipulate prop bets like game time, units killed, expansions taken, ect. I don't know the validity of those but some anonymous posters talked about it in the past. I could probably dig up the links if it's not too off topic.

On October 20 2015 04:17 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 04:12 masterrn wrote:
wait what about MarineKingPrime getting crawler rushed??


Depends on who's telling the story. Either no proof found or still being investigated. I'd like to think the former and he just went full MarineKing


I would like to believe that as the investigation was so centered on Gerrald / Prime that anyone closely associated would have been thoroughly invested, including MK (he basically was bankrolling the team back when he was good and stuck around for ages). But I don't/can't know for sure, so maybe that's just me naively hoping for the best.
Elentos
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55459 Posts
October 19 2015 19:34 GMT
#31
Well there was already an official statement regarding MK saying that they were unable to find evidence of matchfixing for that game. So, probably dropped forever.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 19:44:53
October 19 2015 19:36 GMT
#32
i say, double WaxAngel's post total for this post alone.

thanks for the hard work.

For North American readers.. we need some guy with a John Madden voice to describe the diagram with all teh arrows..
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joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1023 Posts
October 19 2015 19:44 GMT
#33
Thanks for the translation Wax! Haha nice diagrams they made to illustrate the flow.
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Panama145 Posts
October 19 2015 19:56 GMT
#34
The worst part is that the HEAD COACH ! made it possible that the players got into all that :/ Trust has to be there in a team and the H.coach should protect and defend his players. A really sad day,and Yoda and BBBB will pay the consequences.
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
October 19 2015 20:05 GMT
#35
Thanks for the translation Waxangel, much appreciated.
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Gilgamesh11
Profile Joined September 2013
South Africa23 Posts
October 19 2015 20:10 GMT
#36
Wait. Wait. How long will the be behind bars?
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Gilgamesh11
Profile Joined September 2013
South Africa23 Posts
October 19 2015 20:12 GMT
#37
At least Creator got the fuck away before the shit hit the fan.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3340 Posts
October 19 2015 20:42 GMT
#38
On October 20 2015 05:12 Gilgamesh11 wrote:
At least Creator got the fuck away before the shit hit the fan.

Genuinely feel bad for any player on Prime. A headcoach that is willing to go through so much to come by, cannot imagine the amount of pressure some of the players were put under by him.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
October 19 2015 20:51 GMT
#39
After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings.


And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything...
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Gilgamesh11
Profile Joined September 2013
South Africa23 Posts
October 19 2015 20:58 GMT
#40
On October 20 2015 05:51 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings.


And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything...


Once you are a part of the cycle there is no exit unless death or prison I suspect... T'is a shame for Yoda. So young and talented and now he's off to prison for an epic fail judgement call. I feel a wee bit bad for B4 but Gerard seems like a shameless, manipulating ass hat. No better than a criminal. But I don't know what their living condition is like so I'm just speculating.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 21:24:34
October 19 2015 21:13 GMT
#41
On October 20 2015 05:51 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings.


And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything...


they say a man never really knows himself... until his freedom's been taken away

it'll be interesting to see if the guy(s) running this scheme are brutally violent the way the word gangster implies. a large percentage of the actors in sports match fixing schemes are 100% non violent.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 19 2015 21:20 GMT
#42
...

dun fucked up now
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 19 2015 21:20 GMT
#43
Dark times
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
October 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#44
Im guessing this is why everyone like Creator left Prime.
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
October 19 2015 21:57 GMT
#45
Ugh this is sad. It explains why YoDa went from a TvT sniper in round 1 to a total loss in the next three. I really hope this is a turning point rather than the tip of the iceberg.
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CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
October 19 2015 22:44 GMT
#46
Ouch...
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 22:55:07
October 19 2015 22:50 GMT
#47
thanks for the translation. i was expecting it to be juicier, though.

im pissed that i stayed up based on what wolf was staying lol

e: just started listening to Wolf's twitch 'chat' with everyone. looks like there might be more and not everyone has been arrested.
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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
October 19 2015 22:59 GMT
#48
I think the effort and time and risk that goes into match fixing is huge and the ones who were caught now are probably just the tip of the iceberg who weren careful enough.
I cant believe Gerrard and his brokers thought to themselves: "hey we can make a few thousand bucks by risking the freedom of 12 people, ourselves included".
the amount of money and people involved is most likely a lot bigger and what we see here are just the ones who the investigators were able to catch...
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
October 20 2015 00:40 GMT
#49
Well... Fuck.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
October 20 2015 04:38 GMT
#50
Thanks a lot for the translation work Wax. I must say that this is by far the most comprehensive report yet from the Korean authorities and it's actually pretty heartening. It's clear that this investigation took a very long time, full of planning and research and slow execution, but in the end they apparently got this entire network right up to the backer.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 20 2015 05:36 GMT
#51
although I don't play SC2 this is sad news indeed
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 20 2015 05:43 GMT
#52
I knew people would have to be paid to lose to flash eventually.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
October 20 2015 06:01 GMT
#53
Thanks Wax for the work!
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Seriusz
Profile Joined October 2015
3 Posts
October 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#54
I have a question: If yoda was paid to lose a match against DRG, then why did he won ???? o.O
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 15:00:18
October 20 2015 14:59 GMT
#55
On October 20 2015 23:01 Seriusz wrote:
I have a question: If yoda was paid to lose a match against DRG, then why did he won ???? o.O


DRG won that match, so I think your mistaken, or im confused.. here is the vod + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRfTl6xw24


Theres also bets on time, lasts longer than xx minutes, shorter than xx minuntes.
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-20 20:09:33
October 20 2015 20:08 GMT
#56
On October 20 2015 14:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
I knew people would have to be paid to lose to flash eventually.

LOL ouch
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5582 Posts
October 20 2015 21:00 GMT
#57
Still not a single Protoss has been charged in the world of Starcraft. Are they too proud or too sneaky?
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404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
October 20 2015 22:23 GMT
#58
On October 21 2015 06:00 rotta wrote:
Still not a single Protoss has been charged in the world of Starcraft. Are they too proud or too sneaky?

Maybe it is just harder as Protoss to lose ?
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
934 Posts
October 20 2015 22:53 GMT
#59
On October 21 2015 06:00 rotta wrote:
Still not a single Protoss has been charged in the world of Starcraft. Are they too proud or too sneaky?

Maybe the DTs inspired the players.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 20 2015 23:34 GMT
#60
Those are some sexy flowcharts.

Wow also BB4 is 29 years old, wonder how long they gona serve in jail...
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 20 2015 23:41 GMT
#61
On October 20 2015 07:59 trada wrote:
I think the effort and time and risk that goes into match fixing is huge and the ones who were caught now are probably just the tip of the iceberg who weren careful enough.
I cant believe Gerrard and his brokers thought to themselves: "hey we can make a few thousand bucks by risking the freedom of 12 people, ourselves included".
the amount of money and people involved is most likely a lot bigger and what we see here are just the ones who the investigators were able to catch...


you think? obviously everyone needs scapegoats. It's kind of hard to regulate illegal gambling websites.
Hok
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada42 Posts
October 21 2015 13:36 GMT
#62
Wait a minute... is everyone in Korean automatically guilty if arrested? I would hope it is innocent until proven not. But if its like in China then I guess they are scum even without proof...

Common guys calm the F** down. I hope everyone here that is screaming for their heads is accused of something sometime. Trials should not be formalities. True Due process is a rare thing though.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 21 2015 13:40 GMT
#63
On October 21 2015 22:36 Hok wrote:
Wait a minute... is everyone in Korean automatically guilty if arrested? I would hope it is innocent until proven not. But if its like in China then I guess they are scum even without proof...

Common guys calm the F** down. I hope everyone here that is screaming for their heads is accused of something sometime. Trials should not be formalities. True Due process is a rare thing though.


In all states people can get into prison before their trial. There are dozens of english terms for the german one, but I will just use imprisonment on remand. Some states use them only when they think the suspect could try to escape or manipulate the work of the police (for example try to hide some evidence). Other states use it more because of "public danger".
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
October 21 2015 18:42 GMT
#64
On October 20 2015 06:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 05:51 BaneRiders wrote:
After YoDa was paid to match-fix once, the brokers blackmailed YoDa into manipulating additional matches free of compensation by threatening to expose his doings.


And this is when YoDa got a chronic stomach pain I suspect. Going from cool progamer dude to, well, some (presumably) rather hairy gangster's plaything...


they say a man never really knows himself... until his freedom's been taken away

it'll be interesting to see if the guy(s) running this scheme are brutally violent the way the word gangster implies. a large percentage of the actors in sports match fixing schemes are 100% non violent.


What are the odds that we see YoDa come back as Tychus Findlay though?

...and probably, these "gangsters", contacting the progamers, could very well be like slightly tougher versions of rather meek accountants, but somewhere in the background some real muscle may lurk. I wonder if we will ever hear any testimony on this.
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Seriusz
Profile Joined October 2015
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-21 21:27:08
October 21 2015 21:24 GMT
#65
On October 20 2015 23:59 NyxNax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 23:01 Seriusz wrote:
I have a question: If yoda was paid to lose a match against DRG, then why did he won ???? o.O


DRG won that match, so I think your mistaken, or im confused.. here is the vod + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRfTl6xw24


Theres also bets on time, lasts longer than xx minutes, shorter than xx minuntes.

Check the score it's 3:2 for Yoda and in the article it's said that "YoDa accepted requests from brokers "E" and "F" to intentionally lose a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]", so it doesn't make any sense for me
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 21 2015 21:40 GMT
#66
On October 22 2015 06:24 Seriusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 23:59 NyxNax wrote:
On October 20 2015 23:01 Seriusz wrote:
I have a question: If yoda was paid to lose a match against DRG, then why did he won ???? o.O


DRG won that match, so I think your mistaken, or im confused.. here is the vod + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRfTl6xw24


Theres also bets on time, lasts longer than xx minutes, shorter than xx minuntes.

Check the score it's 3:2 for Yoda and in the article it's said that "YoDa accepted requests from brokers "E" and "F" to intentionally lose a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]", so it doesn't make any sense for me


The brokers did not bet on one a whole Bo3, but on one specific map. And Yoda lost that specific map but still made it to win overall. This is not so uncommon.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 21 2015 21:41 GMT
#67
On October 22 2015 06:24 Seriusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 23:59 NyxNax wrote:
On October 20 2015 23:01 Seriusz wrote:
I have a question: If yoda was paid to lose a match against DRG, then why did he won ???? o.O


DRG won that match, so I think your mistaken, or im confused.. here is the vod + Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRfTl6xw24


Theres also bets on time, lasts longer than xx minutes, shorter than xx minuntes.

Check the score it's 3:2 for Yoda and in the article it's said that "YoDa accepted requests from brokers "E" and "F" to intentionally lose a match. [Bribery, Obstruction]", so it doesn't make any sense for me

Well 3:2 means he lost two match, right?
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8secs
Profile Joined October 2015
3 Posts
October 21 2015 23:51 GMT
#68
Again sc2 bringing down shame on esports, fuck. Thank god nobody remebers you even exist anymore.

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Smith2
Profile Joined July 2020
1 Post
July 12 2020 14:50 GMT
#69
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
July 12 2020 15:06 GMT
#70
JESUS DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2746 Posts
July 12 2020 15:33 GMT
#71
On July 13 2020 00:06 Nakajin wrote:
JESUS DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT


I second this, my heart always blowed up.
Nendan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 15:40:19
July 12 2020 15:39 GMT
#72
Seriously, I haven't actually logged in to post on TL in ages but could you not give me a heart attack by necroing these kind of thread titles?!
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
July 12 2020 15:51 GMT
#73
please I don't want another letdown for korean scene once again.
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