EPTOn October 19 2015 09:52 Yorkie wrote:
Pls no: Losira, Bomber, Life
Pls no: Losira, Bomber, Life
there's a super small possibility of bomber or life doing this.
YoDa, B4, Gerrard arrested for match-fixing - Page 5
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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting. As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
there's a super small possibility of bomber or life doing this. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:50 Yorkie wrote: Could get in trouble just for knowing about it and not speaking up. He was a part of the team despite never playing in PL Byun hasn't been an active part of Prime for over a year, IIRC. Doesn't live with the team, doesn't really talk to them that much - I think it's conceivable that he (and KeeN) were given a heads up that something was coming and bailed out before the announcement. (A heads up not from Prime - I assure you if there are indictments, they probably were interviewed and saw the hammer coming. Or found out about things Gerrard might have been doing that they didn't know about and disagreed with strongly, and bailed.) Lots of conjecture, but I don't think they were involved. Byun, at least, as he's been only loosely involved with SC2 for awhile - doesn't even stream frequently. (He mentioned it being addictive once.) | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:57 LongShot27 wrote: You mean like the Marineking one(s) that probably ruined his career even though it's been established he was innocent? I mean it wasn't like his career was thriving before then... | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:58 Wintex wrote: there's a super small possibility of bomber or life doing this. Nah | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:58 Yorkie wrote: I mean it wasn't like his career was thriving before then... That's irrelevant | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3047 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:58 shin_toss wrote: I wonder how did they get caught. They were caught twice: once by police, and one more time by KeSPA via anonymous tip | ||
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Excludos
Norway8220 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:57 Clonester wrote: It was time.... "NO EVIDENCE!!!" never have to hear it again. But terrible news after terrible news incoming No, this is evidence, that's why it's important. I will still yell it when people bring pitchforks for "weird play" without any substantial evidence. The one person people yelled at for matchfixing the most is still (so far) not involved. Then again, we don't know 9 of the people who are. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Do you think there is a large possibility that they were involved? If so, why? | ||
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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:56 Heyoka wrote: Can you tell me where someone from TL told you that? I don't see it anywhere in the thread. Sure i can post the pm: From: NovemberstOrm TL Staff [ 15589 posts | Profile ] Subject: Re: thread closing Date: 3/18/15 00:51 Hi, we the moderators have decided to close this thread do people posting matchfixing accusations, going into offtopic discussion, and with nothing new coming of it, it seems pointless to keep this discussion going, if there is new information revealed a new thread will be created Original Message From StarGalaxy: Hey, why did you close that thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/476033-pinnacle-voids-dark-vs-san-bets-due-to-match-manipulation-concerns?page=54# I provided solid information and i don't see a reason why there shouldn't be a discussion about it. best regards, SG From: NovemberstOrm TL Staff [ 15589 posts | Profile ] Subject: Re: thread closing Date: 3/18/15 01:47 Pinnacle didn't cancel the bet though. Sharing it in the LR might not be good of an idea either(big shitstorm), I don't see anything wrong with posting it in blogs though, i'll see what some of the other moderators think Original Message From StarGalaxy: well i provided new information from todays pro league match in this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/476033-pinnacle-voids-dark-vs-san-bets-due-to-match-manipulation-concerns?page=52#1034 | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:58 felisconcolori wrote: Byun hasn't been an active part of Prime for over a year, IIRC. Doesn't live with the team, doesn't really talk to them that much - I think it's conceivable that he (and KeeN) were given a heads up that something was coming and bailed out before the announcement. (A heads up not from Prime - I assure you if there are indictments, they probably were interviewed and saw the hammer coming. Or found out about things Gerrard might have been doing that they didn't know about and disagreed with strongly, and bailed.) Lots of conjecture, but I don't think they were involved. Byun, at least, as he's been only loosely involved with SC2 for awhile - doesn't even stream frequently. (He mentioned it being addictive once.) Yeah my guess is that they're innocent. Kespa or whoever was conducting the investigation probably said "hey your org is about to go down do what you will with that info" in much more official terms and so they both left and Byun joined a Chinese team. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:57 LongShot27 wrote: You mean like the Marineking one(s) that probably ruined his career even though it's been established he was innocent? Yeah "innocent" | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:00 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Do you think there is a large possibility that they were involved? If so, why? No possibility. They stood to make more money by winning | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:00 Yorkie wrote: Yeah my guess is that they're innocent. Kespa or whoever was conducting the investigation probably said "hey your org is about to go down do what you will with that info" in much more official terms and so they both left and Byun joined a Chinese team. Yeah, I bet that's what happened. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
The accusations didn't ruin his career. he was mediocre to bad in PL before and after the accusations. The only change was they didn't field him for a few weeks to let him recover. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:01 LongShot27 wrote: No possibility. They stood to make more money by winning Wait I thought this was about Proleague. What matches are you talking about exactly? | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
i literally meant that there's no fucking way they're gonna be implicated but sure. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On October 19 2015 09:58 Wintex wrote: there's a super small possibility of bomber or life doing this. Prime/MVP players seem the most suspect right now. The other orgs seem less likely to be involved as they're more financially secure and had more success this year | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 10:02 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Wait I thought this was about Proleague. What matches are you talking about exactly? Kespa also has jurisdiction over SSL | ||
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