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Dreamhack Winter 2015 $50,000 LotV Championship - Page 3

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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 22 2015 16:57 GMT
#41
Nice!

These big tourneys after the game is out for like 2 weeks are the best because people are still trying out few things and are finding new ways to play certain strategies, which means we could see a lot of crazy stuff. I am pumped!
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 22 2015 16:58 GMT
#42
depends how many will train to counter the most op unit of each race. If enough do it we will have semis and finals, where no one knows how to close out the games, so they will be epic long.

Will be good for balancing the multiplayer haha.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
September 22 2015 17:01 GMT
#43
Can't wait to see how it will play out!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
September 22 2015 17:04 GMT
#44
Too bad there is no korean qualifier and only wildcards, but I still can't wait! HYPE!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 22 2015 17:16 GMT
#45
I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 22 2015 17:42 GMT
#46
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote:
I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days

And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 22 2015 17:51 GMT
#47
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 22 2015 17:57 GMT
#48
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

in 2013
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VII_-_World_Championship
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 22 2015 18:02 GMT
#49
On September 23 2015 02:57 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

in 2013
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VII_-_World_Championship
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship

Yes, the Heart of the Swarm release was definitely perfectly balanced. No races whose new units forced multiple successive nerfs. Definitely just fine.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 22 2015 18:09 GMT
#50
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad?
Ok.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 22 2015 18:12 GMT
#51
On September 23 2015 03:09 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad?
Ok.

Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time.
And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 22 2015 18:14 GMT
#52
I hope the game is playable at that point. Should definitely be interesting though.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:20:18
September 22 2015 18:19 GMT
#53
On September 23 2015 03:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:09 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad?
Ok.

Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time.
And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.

Doesn't help that the map pool is one of the worse map pools to test game balance on needed a more racial diverse map pool to see what is actually truely strong instead of 75% of the pool being strong for zerg which might make them look stronger then they truely are when the adept finally gets nerfed and bio might actually be playable on different map pool :D.
Icebound Esports
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:20:55
September 22 2015 18:20 GMT
#54
Ignore quoted myself by accident -_-
Icebound Esports
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
September 22 2015 18:20 GMT
#55
Ignore quoted myself by accident again -_-
Icebound Esports
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 22 2015 18:22 GMT
#56
I don't care at all about the possibility of the winner doing so with 5 rax reaper... or whatever! I'm HYPED for the HYPE!!! :D :D
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 22 2015 18:23 GMT
#57
On September 23 2015 02:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 02:16 Zealously wrote:
I must remind you all that Life has a proven track record in high-stakes tournaments playing expansions he has only played for a few days

And i must remind you that Life is pretty mediocre atm. There obviously is still time to change that.


He was even worse before blizzcon 2014
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 18:27:08
September 22 2015 18:25 GMT
#58
On September 23 2015 03:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:09 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad?
Ok.

Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time.
And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.


Its funny how people talk about LotV as if the game was already figured out. Before we have the korean scene playing with KR servers and proper ping, nothing is definitive. The game will not be balanced before the first GSL season and we don't even know what is broken atm.

SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 22 2015 18:26 GMT
#59
A waste of money for an unbalanced game
Vasacast always in my <3
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 22 2015 18:38 GMT
#60
On September 23 2015 03:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 03:09 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 23 2015 02:51 brickrd wrote:
the complaints about how the game will be broken and not figured out are hilarious. in what world is the first major tournament of an expansion going to be perfectly balanced and reward the best players from the previous expansion?

Because it has always been bad is a reason not to complain that it is bad?
Ok.

Well, it simply is not possible to balance the game without the highest level of play going on for a significant amount of time.
And no, the current LOTV playerpool IS NOT the highest level.

That is true but i had hoped they would at least give LotV some time before hosting a big tournament with it. At this point Blizzard is not even done with the design choices and while there is still 2 months left, i don't think it will be that stable. Only my opinion though.
And yes the player pool is not the highest level, not at all. But that's understandable when there is no money and/or fame to win yet in LotV
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