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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 3 - Page 14

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 26 2015 00:13 GMT
#261
seriously why hasn't my name been brought up yet.

am i the secret #1??
Zerg for Life
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 26 2015 00:17 GMT
#262
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard

User was warned for this post
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 26 2015 00:18 GMT
#263
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard


2011 called, it wants its sig back
Zerg for Life
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 26 2015 00:22 GMT
#264
On April 26 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard


2011 called, it wants its sig back

go play some hearthstone "strategy gamer"
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 26 2015 00:23 GMT
#265
On April 26 2015 09:22 Fuell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard


2011 called, it wants its sig back

go play some hearthstone "strategy gamer"


weow
Zerg for Life
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 26 2015 00:24 GMT
#266
"so much TL bias!" (did not read article) /s
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
April 26 2015 00:29 GMT
#267
thanks for this! loved to read it
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
April 26 2015 00:30 GMT
#268
On April 26 2015 08:54 stuchiu wrote:
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On April 26 2015 07:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg


I don't love PartinG and I totally agree with him. Stuchiu is an excellent writer and clearly knows his shit, but PartinG at a minimum should be where Rain is imo.

He's better than Rain in almost every category except for maybe innovation.


Actually I rate Parting higher in innovation. It's his runs that hurt him.


You should write an article detailing why PartinG isn't in the top 15. :D

Seriously though, I can't wrap my head around it and it hurts me since I <3 PartinG.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
April 26 2015 00:32 GMT
#269
On April 26 2015 01:16 Yorkie wrote:
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On April 26 2015 01:09 sc2chronic wrote:
thast like the last straw on taeja. how many more biased articles will TL write that has taeja highly overrated? wouldd love to hear again that its just the "authors opinion". this article just lost so much credibility.

This entire article was devised and written by Stuchiu on his own. If you think some mysterious TL overlord influenced his decision to place Taeja at number 3 you're a nut case. Yeah I would have had him at 4 but Stuchiu has been great at explaining his criteria and sticking to it. This list has more credibility than any other power rank we've ever had

Wow, I had just assumed from the depth and the scope of the article that this was something of a collaborative effort, well played sir.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
oufanforever
Profile Joined April 2013
United States51 Posts
April 26 2015 00:33 GMT
#270
On April 26 2015 09:30 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 08:54 stuchiu wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg


I don't love PartinG and I totally agree with him. Stuchiu is an excellent writer and clearly knows his shit, but PartinG at a minimum should be where Rain is imo.

He's better than Rain in almost every category except for maybe innovation.


Actually I rate Parting higher in innovation. It's his runs that hurt him.


You should write an article detailing why PartinG isn't in the top 15. :D

Seriously though, I can't wrap my head around it and it hurts me since I <3 PartinG.

he gave a explanation here: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/33tv74/greatest_players_of_all_time_part_3/cqoe7kl
Don't worry, be happy!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 26 2015 00:37 GMT
#271
my list

Maru
Life,
Dark,
Byul
Rogue
Rain

everyone else that isn't protoss

other protoss
Zerg for Life
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 26 2015 00:43 GMT
#272
Wow. I'm tl staff and even i think not posting all top 5 here is greedy.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 26 2015 00:47 GMT
#273
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard

User was warned for this post

I was just making a joke. I remember you told me Life was mediocre back in like 2013. Obviously you don't think that about him anymore
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 26 2015 00:50 GMT
#274
Life, Mvp surely

sorry Bomber
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 26 2015 00:52 GMT
#275
On April 26 2015 09:47 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard

User was warned for this post

I was just making a joke. I remember you told me Life was mediocre back in like 2013. Obviously you don't think that about him anymore

life is definitely mediocre, winning gsl's with ling runbys and 10 pools

i dont love parting i just fancy him a little
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 26 2015 00:56 GMT
#276
I'm disappointed to see all of the anti-TaeJa bias that TL posters have. It's in every news article at this point.
On April 26 2015 09:52 Fuell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 09:47 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard

User was warned for this post

I was just making a joke. I remember you told me Life was mediocre back in like 2013. Obviously you don't think that about him anymore

life is definitely mediocre, winning gsl's with ling runbys and 10 pools

i dont love parting i just fancy him a little

On March 23 2015 05:52 Fuell wrote:
Honestly as biggest PartinG fan there is I still thought Life would take it 4-0 or 4-1. Managing to take it to 4-3 surprised me. I can say confidently now PartinG is the best Protoss atm. Maybe still a little under in PvZ compared to herO, but much closer than I thought. Better in PvT and PvP though :D! Gotta stay positive.

:|
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
April 26 2015 01:02 GMT
#277
i like taeja and all but he doesn't belong in the top 3...biased article
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
April 26 2015 01:04 GMT
#278
On April 26 2015 09:56 The_Templar wrote:
I'm disappointed to see all of the anti-TaeJa bias that TL posters have. It's in every news article at this point.
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 09:52 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 09:47 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 09:17 Fuell wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On April 26 2015 07:15 Fuell wrote:
parting should really be ahead of leenock, mkp, rain

It's an pretty objective list based on research. But clearly your 'feeling' should have more value

dw about this guy he loves Parting and he thinks Life is a mediocre Korean Zerg

no i dont? retard

User was warned for this post

I was just making a joke. I remember you told me Life was mediocre back in like 2013. Obviously you don't think that about him anymore

life is definitely mediocre, winning gsl's with ling runbys and 10 pools

i dont love parting i just fancy him a little

Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 05:52 Fuell wrote:
Honestly as biggest PartinG fan there is I still thought Life would take it 4-0 or 4-1. Managing to take it to 4-3 surprised me. I can say confidently now PartinG is the best Protoss atm. Maybe still a little under in PvZ compared to herO, but much closer than I thought. Better in PvT and PvP though :D! Gotta stay positive.

:|

just let me banter a bit ._.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
April 26 2015 01:10 GMT
#279
On April 26 2015 06:24 Ragnarork wrote:
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On April 26 2015 06:18 Thrillz wrote:
Taeja #3, not a complete farce argument under that criteria...... but how many people would actually say Taeja is #3? Lack of wins in Korea is like never winning a grand slam in tennis.


Or rather not winning Roland Garros, winning some others (that could be considered a bit less "hard"), but beating the likes of Nadal, Federer, Djokovic on the way. That counts.

Also, some GSL were truly not as hard as some others (like GSL November 2011, GSL Season 3 2012, etc.), so uh, yeah, I'd not overrate players that won a GSL.

Seriously, Taeja has won way more premier tournaments than anyone else. If the ones that actually win GSLs are so better than him, how come they don't win these foreign tournaments?

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 06:15 bartus88 wrote:
On April 26 2015 06:04 Zealously wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:45 bartus88 wrote:
On April 26 2015 05:03 Darkhorse wrote:
2. MoustacheTerran
1. LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

but seriously a bunch of you are idiots repeating the same "durrr Liquid bias Taeja never won a single game in Korea I heard"

Guessing ya'll didn't watch Taeja in IPL TAC. Guessing ya'll don't think about how he has won more Premiers than anyone else. Guessing none of you have seen him body GSL heavy hitters (in weekend events and sometimes in GSL remember he has actually made some Ro4s) over a period of 3+ years

On my GOAT list I had Taeja at 4 behind MC but I can see him at 3

The reason people keep saying Liquid bias is because it happens in every single ranking article Liquid has produced. I really love most of the articles the writers of this site put out, but I really can't take the rankings serious any more. I have written longer posts about it in the past but it's not really worth it.


I think this is an unfair assessment. Anyone who has read my posts in LR threads will know that I am no fan of Taeja or even of Team Liquid, but I was still routinely accused of being biased in favor of Taeja when I was writing Power Ranks. It's not impossible, but isn't it just as likely that you, and many others, are biased against Taeja?

Fair point, but I hardly read the power ranks for SC2, so I can't say anything about that.


Wait, you call out PR writers for something you say happens in all PR, but you didn't read those?


Naw it definitely feels like never winning a major in tennis,golf, nascar, etc. In other sports people would never give someone a top 3 spot if you have never won a big one. And conversely, if some GSLs were easier than how come Taeja never won one either? I don't think he's made the finals of the Korea tournament or even a WCS. I just don't put much value in winning things like HSC compared to a starleague. He might even be the best at weekend tourneys but you have to be good enough to run through drawn out gauntlets in starleagues and win.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 26 2015 01:11 GMT
#280
On April 26 2015 09:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Wow. I'm tl staff and even i think not posting all top 5 here is greedy.


It's actually impossible to do
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