EPTMVP's Statement on MarineKing - Page 2
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Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:34 boxerfred wrote: They should've released the replay. 100% agree with that. It would be disastrous if it were proven true, but that's better than if more strong evidence arose and they stubbornly sat on the replay in denial. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:24 -Kyo- wrote: When you start with a preconceived notion that it is impossible for your player to cheat then you have already made a biased, unfaithful attempt to keep integrity at the forefront of your mission. This is the main problem with the statement. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:24 -Kyo- wrote: Expected as much from this. When you start with a preconceived notion that it is impossible for your player to cheat then you have already made a biased, unfaithful attempt to keep integrity at the forefront of your mission. Are you really going to talk about preconceived notions? Short of his body hanging from a noose with tearstains on his lifeless face, MVP would have gotten this same reaction with ANYTHING they could have released, because minds were made up as soon as an allegation was made. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9431 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:43 Circumstance wrote: Are you really going to talk about preconceived notions? Short of his body hanging from a noose with tears tins on his lifeless face, MVP would have gotten this same reaction with ANYTHING they could have released, because minds were made up as soon as an allegation was made. When all the evidence points to MKP being guilty here, you better come up with something better than "he said he didn't do it" before you conclude that he definitely didn't matchfix. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
Case closed. | ||
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:44 Hider wrote: When all the evidence points to MKP being guilty here, you better come up with something better than "he said he didn't do it" before you conclude that he definitely didn't matchfix. He played like utter SHIT yes, but that is not in any way 'evidence'. Edit - This 'trial by pitchforks' shit needs to stop. Everyone being judge, jury and executioner based on their own opinions rather than hard evidence is bullshit. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
doesnt clear up anything at all, but at least there was a reaction from a pro team | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2254 Posts
i really like mkp but i think he still matchfixed tbh, just the fact that he said he didnt oh ok youre innocent then thanks | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
No mention of the bet voiding is pretty disappointing, because the suspicions weren't just based on his bad play, but his bad play combined with voiding the bet on the match. You don't have to prove it has nothing to do with mkp, just méntion it; take it seriously. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
I for myself would guarantee that for now and for the future. And since this is all about him, I don´t get what´s wrong with you. Marineking allways has been an extremely dedicated and fair compender in BW and SC2. He is an extremely passionate hard worker and he was never the guy that cared about the big bucks, NEVER! I find this whole discussion absolutely disrespectful. You should all be ashamed! | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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Xarles
459 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:48 Mallidon wrote: He played like utter SHIT yes, but that is not in any way 'evidence'. And he's far from the only player to pull out a crap performance, even in recent times granted he's had other dumb losses in his past like nuking his own army... good times though. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
UNLESS you don't trust MVP either and think they're either covering matchfixing or actively participating in it. In this case, well, they could have said anything really, you wouldn't have believed it either :D | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:50 TeeTS wrote: Everyone who knows a little bit of Marineking can absolutely confirm, that he is one of the very last players, that will ever fix a match in any professional sport/esport for monetary gain. I for myself would guarantee that for now and for the future. And since this is all about him, I don´t get what´s wrong with you. Marineking allways has been an extremely dedicated and fair compender in BW and SC2. He is an extremely passionate hard worker and he was never the guy that cared about the big bucks, NEVER! I find this whole discussion absolutely disrespectful. You should all be ashamed! I take it you know him personally then? | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:48 Mallidon wrote: He played like utter SHIT yes, but that is not in any way 'evidence'. What is evidence? It is quite likely that MK took part in matchfixing. What we can discuss is how much likely that is. Probability is very important when you discuss matters which can't have clear answers. It's like how modern physics tells that a stone can start flying on its own, but it is highly unlikely, that's why you don't see stones flying. The facts you would consider evidence won't come up without proper investigation and it doesn't seem like anyone is doing that. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
I'm honestly a little surprised at some peoples willingness to just say "yup, he obviously did it and this statement doesnt convince me otherwise". Tell me, exactly what would convince you? How exactly could they convince you? They can't, they have no means to, you can't prove conclusively a negative. | ||
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