EPTOn April 21 2015 19:20 Disarmed wrote:
ups, wrong fred
ups, wrong fred
I am the only true fred yo
MVP's Statement on MarineKing - Page 18
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
I am the only true fred yo | ||
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MChrome
Netherlands201 Posts
From what i know of MK, i don't really think anything dark is afoot. | ||
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
As a counter for them, you can watch the oldboy nalRa series, where he's training to go back into pro brood war, one the players he trains with at his house for a day was someone who ended up being caught up in the bw matchfixing scandal despite just being a shy, nice kid. Just because you are nice or a good person doesn't mean you cant be misled or led astray by others and not really appreciate the consequences of your actions, especially if have just been living in sheltered gaming houses all adult life. I don't think MKPs personality can be used as his sole defence. Considering the combination of people who are in the know, have stated how bad the match fixing is in sc2 at the moment, the betting patterns and the very questionable game. Together it suggests a very low probability MKP is innocent. the statement provides no evidence to suggest otherwise. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
also huge lol at all this burden of proof nonsense. marineking, a professional gamer for over 5 years who must have played tens of thousands of games, proceeds to play a game and makes a series of bronze-level errors leading to a trivial loss, while at the same time tens of thousands of dollars are being wagered on his opponent is very, very strong evidence, and his team coming out saying "we asked him some questions and he didn't match fix" does not constitute reasonable doubt. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On April 21 2015 16:49 Penev wrote: Exactly this, I did and most people in the other thread(s) as well probably. Hoped for something different but expected this. Same here really, exactly what I expected. So they either know MK threw the game and are defending him (most likely) or are just really dumb/naive. If they really wanted to help convince people they would release the replay. But they can't because then truth would be known, so as long as they don't it's just more "proof" really. | ||
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
On April 21 2015 19:34 ChromeBallz wrote: And this proves that the concept of a 'witch hunt' is still alive and kicking. From what i know of MK, i don't really think anything dark is afoot. You don't know anything of MK (or you are his close friend or his relative?). | ||
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XDEKSDEEXD
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On April 21 2015 20:47 Grumbels wrote: I'm going back on my former statement that marineking's career should be finished since if matchfixing really is rife in proleague it makes no sense to single out individuals. No you were right in your statement. As I said his career should be over either way. If he's matchfixing it will come out eventually, if he isn't it's probably worse at this point because it means his game has degenerated to a point he'll never come back from, thus he shouldn't be playing anyway | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On April 21 2015 17:50 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: What? No usually only the loser is involved into the matchfixing, byul probably didn't know about it. I wouldn't say something as if it were an absolute when we're speaking hypothetical. Not only that a lot of the BW players in the match fixing ring did exactly what I just said. They gave each other a heads up as to what build they would do and the other player would turn a blind eye. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On April 21 2015 20:56 showstealer1829 wrote: No you were right in your statement. As I said his career should be over either way. If he's matchfixing it will come out eventually, if he isn't it's probably worse at this point because it means his game has degenerated to a point he'll never come back from, thus he shouldn't be playing anyway Well, I think it's like arresting low level drug pushers instead of going after the cartels. Unless you do the latter nothing will change, because there are enough incentives to be lured to matchfixing (such as lack of income). I will say that MarineKing has lost my respect as a player forever and I don't think there is any excuse. If he couldn't financially survive or whatever then he should have gotten a different job instead of this. But in the end he is just a kid with no education who couldn't resist the money. I think more useful than punishing MK is to pressure KeSPA into investigating. I'll concede that booing MK whenever he plays in KeSPA events or something like that might be useful in pressuring KeSPA. I think getting at KeSPA through MK is something the latter can't really complain about given his unethical actions. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On April 21 2015 19:34 ChromeBallz wrote: And this proves that the concept of a 'witch hunt' is still alive and kicking. Except in this particular hunt: - one of the ex-slayers confirmed the existence of witches - the wizards of Pinnacle reported occult abnormalities involving the Marine King - he threw like a blind old lady | ||
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Berry_CruncH
5 Posts
And the most important thing is innocent until proven guilty, what we have here is one coincidence. This is purely a witch-hunt there is no real evidence against him from what we know. | ||
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Penev
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On April 21 2015 07:34 Circumstance wrote: It's not innocent until proven guilty. It's not even guilty until proven innocent. It's guilty until forgotten about with you all. What kind of sick mentality is that? MVP wouldn't have kept him on if he was a liability to the team. You got your statement, it was clear and thorough, put the damned torches AWAY. LOL. You call that thorough? | ||
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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
It looks like a statement from a bunch of buddies protecting their friend, and not a statement of a professional progaming team taking the matchfixing accusations seriosly and trying to address them. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On April 21 2015 22:09 Penev wrote: An account has been made to post the bait. Now the only thing to do is wait (not counting my own post obviously). I almost got baited haha | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On April 21 2015 22:09 Penev wrote: An account has been made to post the bait. Now the only thing to do is wait (not counting my own post obviously). You Sir are no swag_bro  | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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