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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 10 2015 00:01 GMT
#121
WTF map pool has changed completely.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 10 2015 00:10 GMT
#122
Why is the map pool change suddenly surprising people? This was announced a long time ago >.>
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 00:12:50
April 10 2015 00:12 GMT
#123
On April 10 2015 09:10 The_Templar wrote:
Why is the map pool change suddenly surprising people? This was announced a long time ago >.>


They only announced they were rolling it out ahead of schedule yesterday, and not everyone keeps up with this stuff every day. I saw people surprised at the balance patch notes despite there being a playable version out there for literally months at this point.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 10 2015 00:14 GMT
#124
On April 10 2015 09:10 The_Templar wrote:
Why is the map pool change suddenly surprising people? This was announced a long time ago >.>

I expected it to be related to the new Season.
Now it's just weird...
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
kiLen
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland97 Posts
April 10 2015 00:17 GMT
#125
On April 10 2015 09:14 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 09:10 The_Templar wrote:
Why is the map pool change suddenly surprising people? This was announced a long time ago >.>

I expected it to be related to the new Season.
Now it's just weird...

I think the season has just now locked, I can't confirm this but im not gaining any bonus pool anymore.
LotV HyPe
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
April 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#126
Well, guess it's time to reshine that Roach Hydra Viper play.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
April 10 2015 00:24 GMT
#127
long live roach/hydra!!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 10 2015 00:28 GMT
#128
On April 10 2015 09:17 kiLen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 09:14 RHoudini wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:10 The_Templar wrote:
Why is the map pool change suddenly surprising people? This was announced a long time ago >.>

I expected it to be related to the new Season.
Now it's just weird...

I think the season has just now locked, I can't confirm this but im not gaining any bonus pool anymore.

It's been locked since the weekend, if I'm not mistaken.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 10 2015 00:31 GMT
#129
On April 10 2015 07:43 Big J wrote:
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On April 10 2015 07:12 blade55555 wrote:
Enjoy getting rolled over late game zergies. Mwhahahahahahaha

Of course. You have ravagers and lurkers. Not your problem. Talking about swarm-solidarity...


I know but I feel bad for you guys trust me although turtle swarm host was boring as can be. Now of co u rse can't beat turtle toss which sucks trust me.
When I think of something else, something will go here
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
April 10 2015 00:35 GMT
#130
I cant wait to see how viable broodlord will be now and if toss will still go for tempest.
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 00:39:34
April 10 2015 00:37 GMT
#131
On April 10 2015 05:02 Deathstar wrote:
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On April 10 2015 04:57 Big J wrote:
On April 10 2015 04:56 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2015 04:50 PharaphobiaSC2 wrote:
And here comes trying lazy kids who are lazy to practice new strategies and would rather be stuck at WoL 1.0 patch again ^^

More tears pls


I've always been an advocate of trying before complaining, but I am somewhat puzzled as to how Zergs will efficiently combat Protoss late-game after this patch. It's very possible that I'm too possible and the Zerg messiah will work something out, but it does seem like a tough hit to endure for the Zerg late-game.

yeah, soO is pretty good at playing without hosts


zerg messiah = snute

soO is in a dark slump. He's done


BBBAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH.....

I love snute as much as the next guy, and as a statement I can't take this seriously at all. Snute as achieve about 1/100th of what soO has managed? maybe... ?

And again, I love Snute.

You must be fishin for some comments fired back

*Also, does anyone else think its ridiculous that you need to upgrade the flying locusts?

Aren't SH just complete trash without that upgrade? basically unusable as far as i can tell... in other words it should be free.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
April 10 2015 00:47 GMT
#132
On April 10 2015 04:29 BaneRiders wrote:
Looking forward to seeing flying swarm hosts next


Maybe they should just make them fly and only make them attack air. Then also remove the Corruptor..
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jojos11
Profile Joined March 2014
Korea (North)314 Posts
April 10 2015 01:00 GMT
#133
ignoring widow mines again
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
April 10 2015 01:14 GMT
#134
question: do u need to burrow the swarmhosts to spawn the locusts? .. i've seen old videos they did not burrow to spawn flying locusts
AKMU / IU
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 01:29:30
April 10 2015 01:27 GMT
#135
I guess the Raven Downgrade is against stalemate situations in lategame TvZ, if T plays mech.
However, this makes mass Ravens useless I guess. Will be interesting how this will impact the game. Guess more allins by the terran or less mech
On April 10 2015 10:00 jojos11 wrote:
ignoring widow mines again

What should they do in your opinion?
I find them kinda annoying: too much randomness: most of the times they do little damage, sometimes they have the gamechanging killing blow. Has often nothing to do with skill, and is a Unit that can be removed and replaced by something different. But then Terran needs better tools to deal with some parts of the game.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 10 2015 01:44 GMT
#136
Are all spawns possible on the new maps?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 10 2015 01:54 GMT
#137
Oh boy, time for the re-emergence of Skytoss in team games... as usual Blizz giving absolutely zero fucks about anything other than 1v1

Love the SH change though!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 10 2015 01:55 GMT
#138
If I don't see this being abused in one way or another tomorrow in the 3 ZvT Bo5s I'd be very disappointed.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 02:02:11
April 10 2015 02:01 GMT
#139
On April 10 2015 10:14 shin_toss wrote:
question: do u need to burrow the swarmhosts to spawn the locusts? .. i've seen old videos they did not burrow to spawn flying locusts


Nope you can release them without being burrowed and just keep on trucking.
InExcelsis
Profile Joined May 2013
United States38 Posts
April 10 2015 02:02 GMT
#140
Okay so the Zerg race's strength is about building a big economy and bank, maxing out and attacking with weaker units and then remaxing quickly to beat their opponents before they can do the same but I see no chance of zergs even reaching the late game with the big economy and bank to beat protoss now that swarm host changes have completely destroyed late game ZvP expect a bunch of 3 base roach, ling, bane and 2 base muta all ins in the months to come just stupid. (And before people criticize me saying i haven't played it enough or try it before you complain I logged over 25 hours on the test map the last week alone so I'm confident as a high masters player in saying I have an informed opinion)
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