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[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group F Preview - S1 2015

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[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group F Preview - S1 2015

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February 22nd, 2015 09:41 GMT
2015 WCS Season 1

WCS Season One
Premier League



WCS Ro32 Group F
Suppy, Serral, Has, NaNiwa

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WCS Premier League
Ro32 Group F


Sunday, Feb 22 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


There's really no other way to go about it. Try as we might, one name draws our attention to Group F more than any other: (P)NaNiwa. As one of the big stories of early 2015, his comeback has been met with nothing short of hysteria in forums, live report threads, on twitter, and in articles. Regardless of one's opinion of the man's character, the Starcraft 2 scene is far more lively and eventful when he's around. He is one of the biggest personalities in the scene, and his return should continue to be a talking point this season.

Based on his qualifying and Challenger League matches, it doesn't look like his time off has really caused him to lose a step. He defeated SpaceMarine, MaNa, Hanfy and Happy to reach Challenger in a single try, where he proceeded to crush Nerchio 3-1. There isn't much to go on regarding playstyles and strategies as the game has evolved much since he was last active, but NaNiwa has always favored standard games where he overwhelms his opponents with his raw talent. It was just another normal day at the office for the Swede, but that isn't to say that he's invulnerable to Europeans. His last WCS run was ended in the Ro32 by Bunny and before that TargA, and WCS remains one of the few tournaments where NaNiwa has not yet reached the semi finals. His competitive nature has drawn him back to WCS, and his only goal must be to win it.

It'll be an interesting clash of styles when he meets (P)Has in their initial match. As everyone knows, Has is the second best player from Taiwan and the region's most incomprehensible player. His popularity is based on his oddball approach to the game, and the Cult of Has continues to grow with every proxy tempest build he does against an elite player. He has a style all on his own, and while it seems to work in Chinese tournaments (3rd at TWOP, 5/6th at WEC), he's yet to do more than just make us laugh at more competitive events. In fact, he has only ever been in Premier League once and failed to even qualify for Season 3.

Back in early 2013, it was possible to say that Has had the element of surprise. Nobody really knew anything about him, and he used strategies that his opponents had probably never faced before. His reputation has grown, however, and his opponents now know that they must spoil the joke by scouting before the punchline hits them square in the jaw. Taiwan's court jester will have to go further in WCS if he ever wishes to be anything more than a novelty.

The yoe Flash Wolves player must be wishing that he was paired with one of the other two players instead. PvZ has always been his... "special" matchup, and zergs the world over have lamented at how he's taken the idea of "protoss bullshit" to it's logical extreme. However, neither of the two zergs in Group F will be pushovers.

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This is called "special" ...


(Z)Suppy, of course, was famously the first person to stop PartinG's Soul Train back in 2012. He did it on the biggest stage, too: at the quarterfinals of the 2012 World Championships. Knowing that the Won Won Won was coming, Suppy just walled his bases with spine crawlers and hoped for the best. He shockingly gained a 2-0 advantage, only to falter in the next three games. While that remains his biggest moment, it was a validation of his ability to prepare and respond. Should he face Has, the Taiwanese protoss will have to figure out something ingenious to best him.

However, Suppy has the disadvantage of being a semi pro. He hasn't participated in many tournaments over the past year, and when he has it hasn't gone smoothly. It took 4 tries to get into Challenger this season, but he did stomp Bails 3-0 in relatively easy games. He's still one of the more talented players from the United States, but it's difficult to imagine him going far in WCS without the same rigorous training that full time players have. Even though Suppy's play has always been more about intelligence and wile than mechanics, losses to Guitarcheese, goswser and the no name Night in qualifying suggest that he isn't in the best condition. ZvZ is a matchup very dependent on form, and his 7-7 record against North American zergs does not impress.

Whether (Z)Serral can take advantage of this possible deficiency in practice is unknown. Serral himself isn't exactly one of the most visible zergs in Europe, but he has developed a reputation among the keener observers of the game. While many fans may not be aware, there is a quiet buzz about him as Europe's next great zerg. However, this talk has been building over time, and we're still waiting for that one big moment where he announces his accession. It hasn't happened yet, and we've been saying this ever since the latter half of 2014. He needs to make his mark soon, or he'll end up blending into that glut of middle tier foreigners that get the same write up each and every time.

Based on form alone, it looks like this could be Serral's moment. Since qualifying for Challenger, Serral is 29-4, albeit mostly against lower rung Europeans in online tournaments. But it does include his 3-0 flattening of Harstem—who himself looked close to reaching Europe's highest tier—, a win over sLivko, 2-0 against elfi and a close 2-3 defeat to Welmu at Assembly 2015. In his Challenger League games, he used muta transitions in ZvP to frustrate and confound Harstem, but he also built just about every unit in the game. While he did show a dash of versatility, a protoss more familiar with stargate play could be difficult to beat should he continue his penchant for mutmuts. It's still his worst matchup statistically, and he'll likely have to beat one to advance, assuming he defeats Suppy.

Overall thoughts and predictions:

Without question, NaNiwa is the biggest name in this group. That's not reason enough for his advancement, but he's also proven in the past that he's on a level well beyond the rest of this group. Whether he's back to his old self or still picking up steam is another question, but his class should be enough to ensure survival. Has and Suppy should play a confounding match to decide who gets eliminated first, but my gut tells me Serral should outlive them both.

Suppy < Serral
Has < NaNiwa
Serral < NaNiwa
Suppy < Has
Serral > Has

(P)NaNiwa and (Z)Serral to advance.

Writers: lichter.
Editors: lichter.
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Stats: Aligulac
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 09:50:33
February 22 2015 09:50 GMT
#2
nice writeup gl hf

shoutout to my boy Night! :D :D
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 09:52:30
February 22 2015 09:52 GMT
#3
i haven't seen you play in two years jerk :[
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
ed21x
Profile Joined January 2010
United States103 Posts
February 22 2015 10:00 GMT
#4
go suppy! the entire mcb department at Cal needs some inspiration :D
a little dab will do ya
Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
February 22 2015 10:06 GMT
#5
NANIWA BOYS
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
February 22 2015 10:52 GMT
#6
GOGO NANIWA
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
February 22 2015 10:53 GMT
#7
Naniwa pls
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 10:54:22
February 22 2015 10:53 GMT
#8
So much NaNiwa bias at TeamLiquid, at this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Liquid'NaNiwa happen
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 22 2015 10:54 GMT
#9
Has please
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
February 22 2015 10:54 GMT
#10
Good luck BM king! :D
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
February 22 2015 11:06 GMT
#11
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed.
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2216 Posts
February 22 2015 11:16 GMT
#12
gogo nani best of luck to my favourite protoss
Cogito, ergo Toss
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 22 2015 11:16 GMT
#13
Looking forward to another production of SwarmHost Entertainment incoming. Can Naniwa turn the tide? I sure hope so.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7103 Posts
February 22 2015 11:22 GMT
#14
Naniwa will get rekt.
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sSooG
Profile Joined June 2013
Croatia38 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 11:24:03
February 22 2015 11:23 GMT
#15
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed
nerf mutaliskuuuu!!!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 22 2015 11:30 GMT
#16
On February 22 2015 20:06 Darkdwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed.

I bid 6 months, starting March 1.
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 22 2015 11:30 GMT
#17
gogo Has, make cheese happen
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 11:35:20
February 22 2015 11:31 GMT
#18
Seeing as literally every time* I've called something about suppy it's happened, I'm calling him getting out of group.

*His breakout MLG performance was his only prediction I predicted, but hey, it's technically every time.

This will also be the first SC2 I've watched in around a year.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 11:33:44
February 22 2015 11:31 GMT
#19
Naniwa pls.

@OtherWorld
I'm pretty sure TL has little interest in picking up that controversial of a player. Plus, writers =/= Team Liquid.
Edit: Oh didn't even see Nazgul's post somehow. Well still!!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 22 2015 11:37 GMT
#20
On February 22 2015 20:31 Blargh wrote:
Naniwa pls.

@OtherWorld
I'm pretty sure TL has little interest in picking up that controversial of a player. Plus, writers =/= Team Liquid.
Edit: Oh didn't even see Nazgul's post somehow. Well still!!

Why? Controversial player = views, attention, drama = money. Additionally NaNiwa can bring some results too, he's not a bad player.
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SoulmaN__
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany80 Posts
February 22 2015 11:41 GMT
#21
Naniwarrrr has this.
"I love my family." - soO after his 4th consecutive loss in a GSL final :-(
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
February 22 2015 11:47 GMT
#22
On February 22 2015 20:37 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 20:31 Blargh wrote:
Naniwa pls.

@OtherWorld
I'm pretty sure TL has little interest in picking up that controversial of a player. Plus, writers =/= Team Liquid.
Edit: Oh didn't even see Nazgul's post somehow. Well still!!

Why? Controversial player = views, attention, drama = money. Additionally NaNiwa can bring some results too, he's not a bad player.

Obviously he's a good enough player to deserve a spot on TL. I just don't think a team like Team Liquid would want to deal with the drama that comes with Naniwa. Hell, most teams probably don't want to deal with that drama, even if they could get him cheap. He's a double-edged sword. And since TL is such a likeable and accepted team, picking up someone as polarized as Naniwa seems like a poor choice.
But hey, it's not my team! TL might actually be interested in picking up Naniwa for all I know.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 22 2015 11:57 GMT
#23
On February 22 2015 20:47 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 20:37 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 22 2015 20:31 Blargh wrote:
Naniwa pls.

@OtherWorld
I'm pretty sure TL has little interest in picking up that controversial of a player. Plus, writers =/= Team Liquid.
Edit: Oh didn't even see Nazgul's post somehow. Well still!!

Why? Controversial player = views, attention, drama = money. Additionally NaNiwa can bring some results too, he's not a bad player.

Obviously he's a good enough player to deserve a spot on TL. I just don't think a team like Team Liquid would want to deal with the drama that comes with Naniwa. Hell, most teams probably don't want to deal with that drama, even if they could get him cheap. He's a double-edged sword. And since TL is such a likeable and accepted team, picking up someone as polarized as Naniwa seems like a poor choice.
But hey, it's not my team! TL might actually be interested in picking up Naniwa for all I know.

Ah yeah you mean that he's not really a good embodiement of the "Liquid family spirit". I agree here, and I know that I would have a hard time supporting Liquid if Naniwa was on it. But well, if MarineKing left Prime or Rain SKT1, then NaNiwa can join Liquid for sure.
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Soybanzai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States18 Posts
February 22 2015 12:15 GMT
#24
#NaniChrist2015
Return of the King!
Hopefully, he doesn't get too tilted vs Has lollll
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 22 2015 12:26 GMT
#25
Cheering for Has and Naniwa
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PengWin_SC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Switzerland433 Posts
February 22 2015 12:39 GMT
#26
Serral got this
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 22 2015 13:01 GMT
#27
GET REKT NANIWA
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 22 2015 13:01 GMT
#28
ez group for nani rly
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 22 2015 13:02 GMT
#29
.. the Starcraft 2 scene is far more lively and eventful when he's around

Is that a subtle reference to the nanibrawl?
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 22 2015 13:03 GMT
#30
NANIWA FIGHTING!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 22 2015 13:16 GMT
#31
Nice write-up, let's go Nani!
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 22 2015 13:18 GMT
#32
gogo naniiiiii!!!
Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
February 22 2015 13:25 GMT
#33
Already getting that nervous feeling in my stomach, as always just before Nani plays. I so badly want him to do well. Not sure if I should watch or not.. my poor nerves!!!!
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grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
February 22 2015 13:34 GMT
#34
dangit lichter, those are my liquibets, and you have already cursed uThermal, Jim, MajOr, Happy, and puCK. Leave Serral alone!
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 22 2015 13:34 GMT
#35
Nani hype train!
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
February 22 2015 13:40 GMT
#36
Serral Serral! Serrals ZvP used to be quite bad but I belive he can he can win if he defends Naniwas aggressive builds and all ins,.
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
February 22 2015 14:04 GMT
#37
NaNi #1 here.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Gudge
Profile Joined June 2013
542 Posts
February 22 2015 14:18 GMT
#38
such naniwa much hype!!
づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ ・。*。・゜✧・。*・゜゜・✧ *。・゜*✧
moofang
Profile Joined June 2011
508 Posts
February 22 2015 14:50 GMT
#39
Oddly enough I'd be more confident in Naniwa's advancing if he were in a tougher group (or at least a group with known rivals). He's been known to fall to competition he considers inferior before.

Still, definitely rooting for him. Would be a shame if he goes out now
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
February 22 2015 15:10 GMT
#40
On February 22 2015 20:23 sSooG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed


That would be SOOOOO cool
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
February 22 2015 15:28 GMT
#41
Was Suppy able to resolve his schedule conflict?

Hope he is in a semi-prepared form at least.

Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
February 22 2015 15:57 GMT
#42
On February 22 2015 18:50 Superiorwolf wrote:
nice writeup gl hf

shoutout to my boy Night! :D :D

I believe in a thing called suppy...and naniwa...and maybe has...
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jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
February 22 2015 16:15 GMT
#43
On February 23 2015 00:10 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2015 20:23 sSooG wrote:
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed


That would be SOOOOO cool


If TL will pick up Nani, then they will have the best non korean from each race.. Snute, Bunny, Nani.. would be so cool.
Also I miss the days when we had 2 really big competitive non korean teams.. in EG and TL. Seems that EG nowadays doesn't even care about SC2. Who is in EG besides Jaedong atm? who is also slacking in result TT.
Maru | Life | herO
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
February 22 2015 16:19 GMT
#44
On February 23 2015 01:15 jarod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 00:10 pms wrote:
On February 22 2015 20:23 sSooG wrote:
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed


That would be SOOOOO cool


If TL will pick up Nani, then they will have the best non korean from each race.. Snute, Bunny, Nani.. would be so cool.
Also I miss the days when we had 2 really big competitive non korean teams.. in EG and TL. Seems that EG nowadays doesn't even care about SC2. Who is in EG besides Jaedong atm? who is also slacking in result TT.

with how mana plays recently, i think they already have the best non koreans of every race.
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
February 22 2015 16:22 GMT
#45
On February 23 2015 01:15 jarod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 00:10 pms wrote:
On February 22 2015 20:23 sSooG wrote:
On February 22 2015 19:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
GOGO NANIWA


Liquid'NaNiwa confirmed


That would be SOOOOO cool


If TL will pick up Nani, then they will have the best non korean from each race.. Snute, Bunny, Nani.. would be so cool.
Also I miss the days when we had 2 really big competitive non korean teams.. in EG and TL. Seems that EG nowadays doesn't even care about SC2. Who is in EG besides Jaedong atm? who is also slacking in result TT.


Suppy who plays today :p
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Holloworb
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway345 Posts
February 22 2015 16:47 GMT
#46
I would love a Snute v Nani finals, it's always nice to stomp the swedes
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
February 22 2015 17:09 GMT
#47
On February 23 2015 01:47 Holloworb wrote:
I would love a Snute v Nani finals, it's always nice to stomp the swedes


You must be dreaming if you think Snute got a chance versus Naniwa.
Have a nice day ;)
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 22 2015 17:12 GMT
#48
On February 23 2015 02:09 Dumbledore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 01:47 Holloworb wrote:
I would love a Snute v Nani finals, it's always nice to stomp the swedes


You must be dreaming if you think Snute got a chance versus Naniwa.

I think a player who beat players of the like of CJ'herO, Stork, sOs, TRUE, etc have way more than a chance against some returning BM guy who regularly complains about how the game he plays for a living is shit and prevents him from winning.
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shakigami
Profile Joined November 2013
219 Posts
February 22 2015 17:21 GMT
#49
[image loading]
This is called "special" ...[/center]

btw, what game is this?
CREAM989
Profile Joined July 2014
United States32 Posts
February 22 2015 17:22 GMT
#50
http://a.pomf.se/epvwgc.mp4 LETS GO NANI
Comin fo dat ass
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
February 22 2015 18:17 GMT
#51
On February 23 2015 02:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 02:09 Dumbledore wrote:
On February 23 2015 01:47 Holloworb wrote:
I would love a Snute v Nani finals, it's always nice to stomp the swedes


You must be dreaming if you think Snute got a chance versus Naniwa.

I think a player who beat players of the like of CJ'herO, Stork, sOs, TRUE, etc have way more than a chance against some returning BM guy who regularly complains about how the game he plays for a living is shit and prevents him from winning.

I think nani will be in 1 2 month better then Mana.. and nani is not just a returning BM guy.. he used to be the best.. probably wants to be the best again
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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
February 22 2015 18:32 GMT
#52
Nani HYPE
Kosak
Profile Joined August 2013
Czech Republic193 Posts
February 22 2015 18:36 GMT
#53
its fascinating that Has practices 24/7 and is still such an inferior player compared to Naniwa, that guy just has something special

lets hope for a macro game 3
it's good to be the king
Giding_man
Profile Joined February 2013
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 12:00:43
February 22 2015 20:59 GMT
#54
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
February 22 2015 21:40 GMT
#55
lichter curse continues growing strong.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7276 Posts
February 22 2015 22:19 GMT
#56
Naniwa + Suppy, pls make me happy.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
February 22 2015 23:24 GMT
#57
Finally, some excitement back in the scene! I now have a reason to watch sc2 again. GO NANIWA
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 23 2015 14:31 GMT
#58
Naniwa isn't getting out of the group. Sorry fans. He won't beat Has. He will however win the one straight up game the two will have.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 23 2015 16:54 GMT
#59
oh wow naniwa is back after his big emotional meltdown claiming he was done? never saw this one coming... lol... foreigners have so much stupid drama for so little quality play. they should spend their time playing with koreans instead of tweeting and claiming others are map hacking/cheating and then whining about it.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 17:29:16
February 23 2015 17:03 GMT
#60
On February 23 2015 02:21 shakigami wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This is called "special" ...

btw, what game is this?

Has vs Fist in the Taiwan Open Ro8. VODs seems to be gone tho
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Taiwan_eSports_League/2014_TWOP
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 17:20:01
February 23 2015 17:19 GMT
#61
On February 24 2015 02:03 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 02:21 shakigami wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This is called "special" ...
btw, what game is this?

Has vs First in the Taiwan Open Ro8. VODs seems to be gone tho
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Taiwan_eSports_League/2014_TWOP

You mean Fist, First is a Protoss
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
February 23 2015 17:34 GMT
#62
Seems like it was a cakewalk for Serral.
<3 Alexis Eusebio, Lee Shin Hyung, Choi Seong Hun, Joo Sung Wook, Jang Min Chul, Kim Yoo Jin, Lee Young Ho, Lee Shin Hyung, Yun Young Seo, Kim Joon Ho, Jeong Jong Hyeon, Eo Yoon Su, Johan Lucchesi, Ilyes Satouri
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 17:58:58
February 23 2015 17:58 GMT
#63
On February 24 2015 02:34 Madars wrote:
Seems like it was a cakewalk for Serral.

It kinda was, he crushed his competition with ease.

NaNiwa built carriers, apparently that only works in Code S.
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