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Matchfixing is a very serious offence and accusations of matchfixing should not be made lightly. Please avoid making accusations against specific individuals unless you have substantial proof, or until further information is released. (0620 KST) | ||
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Luolis
Finland7198 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:12 Hydro033 wrote: I'm pretty fucking emotion threw some matches in Zotac cup. He loses 1-2 to slivko and 1-2 to Bly? Really?? The odds were insane. What is to stop these guys form rigging this? They can make a fortune. Ever heard of KR-to-EU lag? Stop panicking. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12589 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:11 TheFlock wrote: So this guy noticed that the betting line looked different, says it could be being fixed, and then seems pretty sure after and is even saying that Kespa agrees that is looks very fishy? is there any source for that?? There is nothing on their twitter about it That's not what he said. He twitted at Kespa that Pinnacle agreed it was fishy. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:11 TheFlock wrote: So this guy noticed that the betting line looked different, says it could be being fixed, and then seems pretty sure after and is even saying that Kespa agrees that is looks very fishy? is there any source for that?? There is nothing on their twitter about it He is not saying that, he tweeted at Kespa that Pinnaclesports agrees that it looks very fishy, presumably to make them aware of it. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:12 Hydro033 wrote: I'm pretty fucking emotion threw some matches in Zotac cup. He loses 1-2 to slivko and 1-2 to Bly? Really?? The odds were insane. What is to stop these guys form rigging this? They can make a fortune. What is to stop these guys? Ever heard of what happened to SaviOr? | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:06 Antoine wrote: There was more than just that. He didn't mineral walk his scout probe and lost it to 2 zerglings, he lost his mothership core to one queen at dark's nat, and I'm only halfway through Oh yes, there was that, but even then, forgetting to mineral walk a probe is a silly mistake, but it isn't one that exactly influences the game completely. In fact, I'd have said San was in a solid position until he did the rambo blink. Of course, I'm no expert on the science of fixing a match. I saw bigger match throws in that best of 2014 video that was recently posted... | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Aeromi
France14463 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:12 Hydro033 wrote: I'm pretty fucking emotion threw some matches in Zotac cup. He loses 1-2 to slivko and 1-2 to Bly? Really?? The odds were insane. What is to stop these guys form rigging this? They can make a fortune. I'm pretty sure game were played on EU. | ||
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just_mo
United States23 Posts
Assuming the opening line was something relatively close to even money, for a line to move that much, there have to be multiple, multiple max bets (I think the limits are only like $200 or so for these markets) streaming in on one side (obv Dark in this case). About as much smoke as possible here. Pinnacle is considered by nearly everyone in the sports betting world to be the most respected book out there. They aren't just going to cancel bets to not have to pay out a few thousand (lol at whoever said that). They were taking bets of 150k during the NFL conference championship games. This is peanuts to them. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:13 StarVe wrote: He is not saying that, he tweeted at Kespa that Pinnaclesports agrees that it looks very fishy, presumably to make them aware of it. He's not only saying that it looks fishy, he is saying that San threw the game for money. There is quite a difference between the two. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
San was a championship contender do you ever sc2? San had an inflated aligula rating because was playing the easier wcs leagues. all of this because some retard bet hundreds of thousands | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:14 just_mo wrote: lol at people just assuming there's nothing behind this and Swoop is just throwing accusations around. Do you people know anything about sports betting? San was almost a 3 to 1 dog against Dark. That make an ounce of sense to anyone here? My SC2 following has tapered off quite a bit over the past 6 months, but last I recall San was a championship contender and Dark was a solid contributor for his team. Assuming the opening line was something relatively close to even money, for a line to move that much, there have to be multiple, multiple max bets (I think the limits are only like $200 or so for these markets) streaming in on one side (obv Dark in this case). About as much smoke as possible here. Pinnacle is considered by nearly everyone in the sports betting world to be the most respected book out there. They aren't just going to cancel bets to not have to pay out a few thousand (lol at whoever said that). They were taking bets of 150k during the NFL conference championship games. This is peanuts to them. While San can be a championship contender, especially in PvZ, Dark is one of the best players in the world right now. I think most ppl consider him a favourite in the match. | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:15 DJHelium wrote: While San can be a championship contender, especially in PvZ, Dark is one of the best players in the world right now. I think most ppl consider him a favourite in the match. San is a guy who cannot FFE. Dark is a championship contender. | ||
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padiseal2
Austria721 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:15 DJHelium wrote: While San can be a championship contender, especially in PvZ, Dark is one of the best players in the world right now. I think most ppl consider him a favourite in the match. During the NSL Group Selections like 4 players said that they believe Dark is the #1 player right now. If you're wealthy, betting a 5 digit sum on Dark with 3 to 1 odds may not be the worst idea ever without match fixing involved | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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just_mo
United States23 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:15 DJHelium wrote: While San can be a championship contender, especially in PvZ, Dark is one of the best players in the world right now. I think most ppl consider him a favourite in the match. There are favorites and there are 3 to 1 favorites. I used to pay a bit of attention to the SC2 lines when we played a handicapping game on a different forum, and a line like that would come from an extremely lopsided match, think Innovation during the Ro32. You think Dark is that big of a favorite over San? If I'm wrong let me know, but it doesn't sound remotely correct to me. Swoop has been doing well betting these games for over a year now, if he says the line was way, way off where it should have been, I would tend to believe him. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:22 xuanzue wrote: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/13411-gomtv-starcraft-2-open-round-of-32-day-2-battle-report yeah San had a terrible game in 2011. He also 2-0d Dark 2 weeks ago | ||
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:12 Nebuchad wrote: That's not what he said. He twitted at Kespa that Pinnacle agreed it was fishy. Ah well I guess i was wrong to expect more punctuation in a tweet that would make that clear lol I agree that Dark has been considered a much better player so it is not inconceivable for the match to have played out this way, especially since blunders and bad play just happen sometimes. It is understandable that the betting site would be concerned for the very out of normal patterns, but still hoping that nothing comes of this. Match-fixing in Korea is so serious that the careers would be forfeit. Can't imagine risking something like that on a proleague match | ||
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padiseal2
Austria721 Posts
On January 21 2015 03:20 just_mo wrote: There are favorites and there are 3 to 1 favorites. I used to pay a bit of attention to the SC2 lines when we played a handicapping game on a different forum, and a line like that would come from an extremely lopsided match, think Innovation during the Ro32. You think Dark is that big of a favorite over San? If I'm wrong let me know, but it doesn't sound remotely correct to me. Swoop has been doing well betting these games for over a year now, if he says the line was way, way off where it should have been, I would tend to believe him. Yes, Dark is that big of a favourite. He got sent out as ace both times SKT went to final match, over the likes of Innovation who's 4-0. And iloveoov is not excactly known for having bad judgement. Anyone who is a bit invested in the korean scene would've called Dark the clear favourite | ||
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