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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3378 Posts
November 04 2014 09:59 GMT
#81
On November 04 2014 17:57 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 17:31 iMrising wrote:
On November 04 2014 08:46 rotta wrote:
On November 04 2014 07:49 SixStrings wrote:
On November 03 2014 19:41 lichter wrote:
Artosis mistakenly hyping players is part of the fun. Otherwise how could we make fun of him? :/


Exactly, he's just so perfect in every other way.

Who is he going to curse next?

taeja is next. sorry templar

I'm guessing you've never listened to artosis cast one of innovation's games lol

Omg your right. First he overhype SoO, then his fanboyism will overhype Innovation, then he will begin hyping Life as he realizes he has a shot and he's been on the Life hype train before. Then in the finals between MMA and TaejA, he will call the son of boxer and TaejA will win.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
November 04 2014 10:10 GMT
#82
On November 04 2014 18:59 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 17:57 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On November 04 2014 17:31 iMrising wrote:
On November 04 2014 08:46 rotta wrote:
On November 04 2014 07:49 SixStrings wrote:
On November 03 2014 19:41 lichter wrote:
Artosis mistakenly hyping players is part of the fun. Otherwise how could we make fun of him? :/


Exactly, he's just so perfect in every other way.

Who is he going to curse next?

taeja is next. sorry templar

I'm guessing you've never listened to artosis cast one of innovation's games lol

Omg your right. First he overhype SoO, then his fanboyism will overhype Innovation, then he will begin hyping Life as he realizes he has a shot and he's been on the Life hype train before. Then in the finals between MMA and TaejA, he will call the son of boxer and TaejA will win.

I'm hwaiting for Artosis Curse on Innovation so Taeja can advance to the finals and deliver me LP bracket glory :)
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 04 2014 10:17 GMT
#83
On November 03 2014 04:55 Prolet wrote:
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On November 02 2014 19:08 REyeM wrote:
Jesus.. I feel asleep. How bad have Zest and soO must have played to lost to Life and TaeJa. Well I guess every tournament needs to be spiced with few upsets. Really sad for soO =\


Not really upsets, in my opinion. Since the widow mine was changed back, all the top tier Terrans have been handily beating Zergs. The map pool seems to give Terrans a bit of an edge too. All the Zerg players were knocked out of the tournament were all playing Terrans, with the exception of Life (who played Zest).

ZvP is much more interesting these days. Definitely watch all the Life vs Zest games, you could tell that Life really prepared well for the matchup.

TvZ Terrans are doing the same bio composition as it trades favorably with all tiers of Zerg units. It also seem like the Zerg player has a notably smaller margin of error than the Terran player. Once in a great while a Terran throws in mech. Last game I remember with mech was Innovation vs. DRG during last GSL. He used it in one game during that series vs Swarmhosts. Hope we don't have a ZvT finals at Blizzcon. (Never thought I would hear myself saying that.)

Taeja was even beating Zergs before the widow mine was reverted back to HotS version with the old map pool. I don't think there's a Zerg in the world who can beat him right now. Maybe Life will prove me wrong.

So the series I would really recommend are:
1. Zest vs Life (Seriously watch this!)
2. Taeja vs SoO (Taeja was basically in control the whole time, but I love watching his games.)
3. Classic vs Polt



I'll definitely do that! I was awake during Polt vs Classic and it was such a great series.

And for people laughing at me for saying that Life and TaeJa winning were upsets.. I don't think that TaeJa is bad in any sort of way but as I recall correctly soO and Zest were highly favored.

+ Show Spoiler [Zest vs Life] +
Poll: Head?

Zest (41)
 
82%

Life (9)
 
18%

50 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): Zest
(Vote): Life


Poll: Heart?

King of Lings (31)
 
55%

The Kingslayer (25)
 
45%

56 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): The Kingslayer
(Vote): King of Lings



+ Show Spoiler [TaeJa vs soO] +
Poll: Head?

soO (32)
 
59%

TaeJa (22)
 
41%

54 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): soO


Poll: Heart?

5 Silvers (32)
 
56%

11 Golds (25)
 
44%

57 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): 11 Golds
(Vote): 5 Silvers



No need to get all bitchy about discrimination of non-KeSPA players.
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
November 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#84
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 04 2014 20:38 GMT
#85
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.


"Champion" is permanent, "best in the world" is much more fleeting. If Bomber wins Blizzcon, I wouldn't have a lot of trouble calling him the best player in the world. Sure there are contenders for the title, but he has looked great recently.
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 16:38:07
November 05 2014 16:35 GMT
#86
I keep on thinking why so often Koreans from GSL Code S when playing in international LAN tournaments under-perform compared to what one would expect them when playing in Code S.
This time too, favourites sOO and Zest mostly lost cause of micro mistakes.
Personally I like upsets, but when they happen too often, they become the norm, and would you call that an upset?
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cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 05 2014 16:44 GMT
#87
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.

because there are three matchups and you will not need to be godly in all matchups for winning a champion, there is a bracket and you always avoid some insanely strong players. Who are the best players in the BlizzCon? Zest, soO, herO, taeja, inno, Classic.. and a champion will not face all of the strong players I mentioned above.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
November 05 2014 17:30 GMT
#88
On November 06 2014 01:44 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.

because there are three matchups and you will not need to be godly in all matchups for winning a champion, there is a bracket and you always avoid some insanely strong players. Who are the best players in the BlizzCon? Zest, soO, herO, taeja, inno, Classic.. and a champion will not face all of the strong players I mentioned above.

every player at blizzcon is strong and every single player (kay maybe no jjakji) proved that he could go toe to toe with practically anyone in the tournament on a good day.
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 05 2014 19:56 GMT
#89
On November 06 2014 02:30 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 01:44 cpower wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.

because there are three matchups and you will not need to be godly in all matchups for winning a champion, there is a bracket and you always avoid some insanely strong players. Who are the best players in the BlizzCon? Zest, soO, herO, taeja, inno, Classic.. and a champion will not face all of the strong players I mentioned above.

every player at blizzcon is strong and every single player (kay maybe no jjakji) proved that he could go toe to toe with practically anyone in the tournament on a good day.

that's not true at all. what you are saying is every player is equally good and it makes no sense. I will give you some examples. herO will dominate every T and Zest will beat every P and Taeja destroies every Z stepping on his way. It's all about the matchups.
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-06 02:47:16
November 06 2014 02:45 GMT
#90
On November 06 2014 04:56 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 02:30 Tanzklaue wrote:
On November 06 2014 01:44 cpower wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.

because there are three matchups and you will not need to be godly in all matchups for winning a champion, there is a bracket and you always avoid some insanely strong players. Who are the best players in the BlizzCon? Zest, soO, herO, taeja, inno, Classic.. and a champion will not face all of the strong players I mentioned above.

every player at blizzcon is strong and every single player (kay maybe no jjakji) proved that he could go toe to toe with practically anyone in the tournament on a good day.

that's not true at all. what you are saying is every player is equally good and it makes no sense. I will give you some examples. herO will dominate every T and Zest will beat every P and Taeja destroies every Z stepping on his way. It's all about the matchups.

If it's all about matchups then there can't be "the best player in the world".
I so want to see herO dominate Bomber if he gets past Classic, and Taeja destroies Life and avenge Zest (but he has to get past Innovation first. Look very unlikely.
<3 Alexis Eusebio, Lee Shin Hyung, Choi Seong Hun, Joo Sung Wook, Jang Min Chul, Kim Yoo Jin, Lee Young Ho, Lee Shin Hyung, Yun Young Seo, Kim Joon Ho, Jeong Jong Hyeon, Eo Yoon Su, Johan Lucchesi, Ilyes Satouri
Stolker
Profile Joined March 2013
United States96 Posts
November 06 2014 03:29 GMT
#91
time for Lifu to win
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 06 2014 04:36 GMT
#92
On November 06 2014 11:45 Madars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2014 04:56 cpower wrote:
On November 06 2014 02:30 Tanzklaue wrote:
On November 06 2014 01:44 cpower wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:34 Madars wrote:
I am thinking about BlizzCon champion status. No doubt many will call him the best in the world or World Champion, let's say Bomber wins it, then drops out of Ro32 WCS KR.
Seems like "Champion" is a one night thing nowadays.

because there are three matchups and you will not need to be godly in all matchups for winning a champion, there is a bracket and you always avoid some insanely strong players. Who are the best players in the BlizzCon? Zest, soO, herO, taeja, inno, Classic.. and a champion will not face all of the strong players I mentioned above.

every player at blizzcon is strong and every single player (kay maybe no jjakji) proved that he could go toe to toe with practically anyone in the tournament on a good day.

that's not true at all. what you are saying is every player is equally good and it makes no sense. I will give you some examples. herO will dominate every T and Zest will beat every P and Taeja destroies every Z stepping on his way. It's all about the matchups.

If it's all about matchups then there can't be "the best player in the world".
I so want to see herO dominate Bomber if he gets past Classic, and Taeja destroies Life and avenge Zest (but he has to get past Innovation first. Look very unlikely.

there still can, if you dominate all three matchups then you are the best player in the world. innovation was close but he falls off after a team switch to acer. zest was close but his pvt and pvz started to slip off. it is VERY VERY hard to do indeed.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 06 2014 05:20 GMT
#93
On November 06 2014 12:29 Stolker wrote:
time for Lifu to win


indeed it is his time
rip passion
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
November 06 2014 17:10 GMT
#94
I've just realised that Hearstone has the same price pool than sc2... wtf.

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 06 2014 17:16 GMT
#95
On November 07 2014 02:10 syroz wrote:
I've just realised that Hearstone has the same price pool than sc2... wtf.



Only true for the Global Finals seen separately. Altogether, the 2014 WCS season has a prize pool of $1.6M. Hearthstone does not.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
November 07 2014 19:20 GMT
#96
So funny seeing the different chat channels on different streams. One channel loves an announcement another hates the same one lol
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 19:23:47
November 07 2014 19:23 GMT
#97
On November 08 2014 04:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
So funny seeing the different chat channels on different streams. One channel loves an announcement another hates the same one lol

The WCS Global Finals twitch one just wants Dustin Browder
Edit: LOL
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 07 2014 19:25 GMT
#98
FUCKING LOTV!!!!!!!!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-07 19:28:58
November 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#99
Shivers up my spine right now.


Edit: And Lurkers?

Shared control multiplayer?

Oh wow.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#100
who's this beardless guy and where's dustin browder?
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