EPT//edit: also no Grubby on that Musicus WCS EU/NA list makes it basically invalid.
Blizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 22
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Doublemint
Austria8573 Posts
//edit: also no Grubby on that Musicus WCS EU/NA list makes it basically invalid. | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
On November 01 2014 22:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote: If they make money off the events themselves it becomes a lot easier to pay the eSports stars a full time wage commensurate with the effort they put into the game. as long as it keeps losing money there is only so much Blizzard can justify to pour into it due to their corporate overlords ATVI. you're incorrect. i know how he had to go to his grandma for money because his parents wanted nothing to do with video games. i read Morhaime's forward in the compendium of 3 works of SC1 fiction. i recall Morhaime stating that he always looks forward to the Starcraft competition at Blizzcon in the 20 year retrospective. read a few of my SC related posts and you'll see i follow Morhaime very closely. For SC2 eSports to take off it needs its watershed event like Wrestlemania3 in 1987 or UFC30 in 2001. It will require a genius promoter to pull that off. Disregarding these pie in the sky dreams though, 2015 should be a fun year for SC2 esports. You have been negative in every thread about SC2's esports structure/Blizzard's strategy as early as 2012 if my memory was correct and you have been wrong ever since, you will be wrong again in 2015. With WoW and HS making around 100M$ every month, Blizzard can afford dumping money into WCS, and they have proved that they are willing to do so. It might (and probably never will) "take off" to TI/Worlds level. because let's be fucking honest, there are like 1 million people tops that are willing to play RTS games competitively, but the watching audience is always there and Blizzard is willing to spend money to maintain that audience and a great public image. On top of a LotV info blowout in Blizzcon and a potential beta next year and release in late 2015/early 2016, SC2 will, in fact, going into an upward curve on the public interest aspect because the fresh air that LotV brings. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
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Errormx
Poland62 Posts
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:09 Errormx wrote: Maybe we can do something about ForGG some petition or something. Hope blizzard is reading this. No, the only way for forgg to keep playing in EU is getting a proper visa | ||
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:14 Faefae wrote: No, the only way for forgg to keep playing in EU is getting a proper visa Holiday working Visas (as the ones of germany) are visas that still allows you compete in WCS. The rule says that the visa must allow staying (not having permantley residence), working anda collecting prices in the country (thats exactly what a holiday working does). Btw the web ennounces some examples and holiday working visas are there | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:14 Faefae wrote: No, the only way for forgg to keep playing in EU is getting a proper visa I would like him to play too, but a petition wouldn't do anything because Blizzard can't afford to make exceptions to the rules (that would basically be admitting that their rules, and their whole system, are bad, which obviously won't happen). I still don't know how Blizzard made such a move without announcing it around the end of PL instead of now | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
KeSPA Cups will be separate from SpoTV leagues. I really doubt GSL would be forced to change their 4-year old system that works really well for their context of operations. I think it was lumped together in one box in the infogram to simplify, because it's those players that directly qualify for next season. On November 01 2014 21:17 BaneRiders wrote: Say, if EU/AM teams would actually employ KR players for real (even time limited contracts), would they still not get a visa? Compare with soccer, ice hockey or any other meat sport? This expression I'll steal - "meat sports"! On November 01 2014 21:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this circle-jerk of a thread has been way too positive. when attendance at this weekend's WCS Global finals RO16 is sub par look for Blizzard to adjust the WCS prize pool downwards for 2015. i see nothing in these changes that will allow Blizzard even the remote chance of breaking even in their esports ventures for SC2. Blizzard is not going to continue to pour money down the drain. Look for the over all prize pool in 2015 to decline compared to 2014 (WCS plus other events). The prize pool for WCS 2015 has already been announced as the same as previously (also the same as the money Valve puts towards TI's prize pool). Imagine the backlash if Blizzard downsized WCS considerably. It would be horrible for their PR! I imagine that when they developed WCS, they had something like a loose 5-year plan for it. A company like Blizzard doesn't do impulsive things on that scale. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:23 TheAnarchy wrote: Holiday working Visas (as the ones of germany) are visas that still allows you compete in WCS. The rule says that the visa must allow staying (not having permantley residence), working anda collecting prices in the country (thats exactly what a holiday working does). Btw the web ennounces some examples and holiday working visas are there Nope; from wcs website : "Examples of non-acceptable identification Expired visa Working holiday visa General tourist/visitor visa " | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:28 Faefae wrote: Nope; from wcs website : "Examples of non-acceptable identification Expired visa Working holiday visa General tourist/visitor visa " The thing to do here is to allow working holiday visas for 2015 atleast. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:29 redviper wrote: The thing to do here is to allow working holiday visas for 2015 atleast. Then WCS EU/NA would be 90% koreans players with a bunny a snute or a scarlett here and there. I think the rules a great as they are now, it's just sad that did not told the players beforehand, and that someone like ForGG is getting screwed now. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16789 Posts
On November 01 2014 22:58 digmouse wrote: You have been negative in every thread about SC2's esports structure/Blizzard's strategy as early as 2012 if my memory was correct and you have been wrong ever since, you will be wrong again in 2015. Since 2012 i said the over all annual prize pool will decline ( incl. WCS and other events). That has been true. Blizzard is the best game developer in the world. They are not good at organizing ongoing tournament event series. As I said before, James Naismith invented a great game that does not mean he can run the NBA. HotS breathed new life into the game.. hopefully LotV will do the same. Blizzard is great at making expansions. None of this will stop the decline in prize pool though. For this to happen a genius live event promoter guy is required. It might be impossible, but a genius level guy would at least have a chance. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:29 redviper wrote: The thing to do here is to allow working holiday visas for 2015 atleast. Well that wouldn't change much then, given that all the GEM guys have a working holiday visa. The thing that should have been done here is to tell players and teams way earlier. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
It makes zero sense. | ||
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Yurie
11887 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:36 OtherWorld wrote: Well that wouldn't change much then, given that all the GEM guys have a working holiday visa. The thing that should have been done here is to tell players and teams way earlier. A compromise of a few months to get papers in order seems the most reasonable. Not everybody can get what is needed though, Visas are hard to get in most countries. Perhaps some middle east or Africa country is easier than the EU zone? | ||
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ANLProbe
667 Posts
On November 01 2014 21:17 REyeM wrote: WCS Europe and Polt  Also ANLProbe, where did you read that GSL Ro8 - Finals will be getting a venue on a weekend. That would really sucks, they need to give players some time to prepare for those important matches.. http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_gsl.jpg | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 01 2014 23:36 OtherWorld wrote: Well that wouldn't change much then, given that all the GEM guys have a working holiday visa. The thing that should have been done here is to tell players and teams way earlier. But this is what Blizzard wants? Koreans out of WCS EU/NA. If koreans would stay, 32 premier would be just joke. (with koreans need more spots than 32) | ||
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