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Blizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 23

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vitka
Profile Joined November 2014
6 Posts
November 01 2014 15:00 GMT
#441
I want to watch high class Starcraft, not some forced-through-rate players. Imagine how many awesome players wont make it to Blizzcon next year, because it is filled with some cannon fodder.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 01 2014 15:02 GMT
#442
On November 01 2014 23:28 redviper wrote:
So basically Polt will win every WCS Unified tournament? I don't see anyone else who can compete with him.

Polt's wrist will start to weaken, and people will smell blood.
It's no big deal. This won't be 5 years of Polt domination.
rip passion
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
November 01 2014 15:10 GMT
#443
On November 01 2014 22:15 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 15:50 CursOr wrote:
I am going to be quite blunt and speculative.

I figure that Blizzard is looking for WCS viewership to go up drastically. I am quite sure they would like at least 5x to 10x more the viewers on all WCS events at all times. With many more people playing and being interested in the game. If things stay largely the same, well they will stay the same.

LotV and drastic changes to WCS are in the long term (2-3 years), going to be the last pushes to get dramatically increased viewership, or this shit is just going to go away. Blizzard cant just continue to fund it for another 20 years for no good reason.

And I SINCERELY hope it works. I like SC2 and would love to see it around for a long time.

Eh no, your 5-10x prediction is luldacris and I'm sure Blizzard aren't expecting that. Also, how exactly are Blizzard funding the scene? They aren't Riot. Sure they pitch in here and there but the sc2 scene have been largely independent of Blizzards support.


??? You're trolling right ???

Blizzard funds WCS entirely. It would appear they have gotten some small, token sponsorships but I would say its safe to assume they are funding at least 90% of everything to the tune of millions a year. And to think they are "expecting" better viewer numbers and some sort of return on the money they are spending ... that is what companies do. They aren't giving away millions of dollars to keep a few thousand people entertained.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 15:11:25
November 01 2014 15:11 GMT
#444
This change is great but it won't improve viewership.

What will improve viewership cannot be mentioned here without betting a temp ban so I'll just stop right here.
libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
November 01 2014 15:11 GMT
#445
On November 02 2014 00:02 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 23:28 redviper wrote:
So basically Polt will win every WCS Unified tournament? I don't see anyone else who can compete with him.

Polt's wrist will start to weaken, and people will smell blood.
It's no big deal. This won't be 5 years of Polt domination.


Some people get wrist problems almost unavoidably and some just do not get them. It's a shitty luck of the draw but that is just the genetic lottery for ya. Polt has been playing since day 1 and has never complained about his wrists (to my knowledge) ... while players like Scarlett and Taeja have had issues the entire time they have played.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 01 2014 15:12 GMT
#446
On November 02 2014 00:11 aeligos wrote:
This change is great but it won't improve viewership.

What will improve viewership cannot be mentioned here without betting a temp ban so I'll just stop right here.

Do go on.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 01 2014 15:14 GMT
#447
On November 02 2014 00:11 CursOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:02 Deathstar wrote:
On November 01 2014 23:28 redviper wrote:
So basically Polt will win every WCS Unified tournament? I don't see anyone else who can compete with him.

Polt's wrist will start to weaken, and people will smell blood.
It's no big deal. This won't be 5 years of Polt domination.


Some people get wrist problems almost unavoidably and some just do not get them. It's a shitty luck of the draw but that is just the genetic lottery for ya. Polt has been playing since day 1 and has never complained about his wrists (to my knowledge) ... while players like Scarlett and Taeja have had issues the entire time they have played.

It's not fair man

I get wrist pains and I ain't even a pro gamer


but yeah your point makes sense
rip passion
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 01 2014 15:15 GMT
#448
On November 02 2014 00:11 aeligos wrote:
This change is great but it won't improve viewership.

What will improve viewership cannot be mentioned here without betting a temp ban so I'll just stop right here.

If you say them how beautiful they are and how good they are they might only warn you
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 01 2014 15:19 GMT
#449
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
November 01 2014 15:22 GMT
#450
On November 02 2014 00:19 BaneRiders wrote:
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?

Because it's a very expensive process
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 01 2014 15:25 GMT
#451
On November 02 2014 00:22 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:19 BaneRiders wrote:
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?

Because it's a very expensive process


So if ForGG can bring home the moneys it can be done, am I right?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 15:45:40
November 01 2014 15:36 GMT
#452
On November 02 2014 00:22 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:19 BaneRiders wrote:
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?

Because it's a very expensive process

Maybe he should start paying taxes?

** Didn't mean to quote you**
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 15:37 GMT
#453
On November 02 2014 00:25 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:22 AWalker9 wrote:
On November 02 2014 00:19 BaneRiders wrote:
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?

Because it's a very expensive process


So if ForGG can bring home the moneys it can be done, am I right?

Having a proper working visa is kinda long as well : between 4 and 6months.
There won't be any koreans in WCS United besides Polt/Violet/JYP? in 2015
ForGG. 29/11/2014
pandabox
Profile Joined March 2013
20 Posts
November 01 2014 15:40 GMT
#454
I like these changes a lot.

Blizz could also do a qualifier final of some sort like what Code A had.
In love with a lifestyle I can't afford
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
November 01 2014 15:41 GMT
#455
If im going to be honest i don't think JYP will even qualify he was losing to the mid tier na pros in the qualifer for 32 boys 1 cup and with only 8 spots i find it unlikely he can beat the best na has to offer.
Icebound Esports
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17181 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 16:49:29
November 01 2014 15:44 GMT
#456
On November 01 2014 15:50 CursOr wrote:
LotV and drastic changes to WCS are in the long term (2-3 years), going to be the last pushes to get dramatically increased viewership, or this shit is just going to go away. Blizzard cant just continue to fund it for another 20 years for no good reason.
And I SINCERELY hope it works. I like SC2 and would love to see it around for a long time.


in 2010, Frank Pierce ( executive producer ) stated SC2 eSports is a 10 year experiment. Blizzard rarely if ever breaks a concrete specific promise like this one. So I think we've got 5 years before Blizzard considers making any kind of drastic cutback.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
November 01 2014 16:01 GMT
#457
On November 02 2014 00:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:11 aeligos wrote:
This change is great but it won't improve viewership.

What will improve viewership cannot be mentioned here without betting a temp ban so I'll just stop right here.

Do go on.


It's probably balance whine, do not encourage him
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Tngabor
Profile Joined December 2013
Serbia60 Posts
November 01 2014 16:01 GMT
#458
i'm still scratching my head...
But i guess we'll see how this works in 2015.

glhf to all the players i guess!
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
November 01 2014 16:56 GMT
#459
On November 02 2014 00:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 15:50 CursOr wrote:
LotV and drastic changes to WCS are in the long term (2-3 years), going to be the last pushes to get dramatically increased viewership, or this shit is just going to go away. Blizzard cant just continue to fund it for another 20 years for no good reason.
And I SINCERELY hope it works. I like SC2 and would love to see it around for a long time.


in 2010, Frank Pierce ( executive producer ) stated SC2 eSports is a 10 year experiment. Blizzard rarely if ever breaks a concrete specific promise like this one. So I think we've got 5 years before Blizzard considers making any kind of drastic cutback.


Not doubting you, just interested. Do you have a link to that statement/interview?
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
November 01 2014 17:05 GMT
#460
On November 02 2014 00:25 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 00:22 AWalker9 wrote:
On November 02 2014 00:19 BaneRiders wrote:
Come on guys, why cannot Millenium employ ForGG for real and sort out a working visa for him? You know, a job, with social security, tax and everything. Like any non-EU soccer player in France?

Because it's a very expensive process


So if ForGG can bring home the moneys it can be done, am I right?

Can he bring home millions each month? No? Ok moving on.
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