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Road to BlizzCon #14 - SKT.INnoVation - WCS 2014

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Road to BlizzCon #14 - SKT.INnoVation - WCS 2014

Text byZealously
Graphics byMeru, shiroiusagi
October 29th, 2014 22:17 GMT

Photo Credit: DreamhackTerran
Korean FlagSK Telecom T1

Innovation

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The Hanged Man

by DarkLordOlli and Zealously

The StarCraft world has traditionally been split in two states. There's Korea, the "Mecca of eSports", where infrastructure in gaming is arguably leagues better than anywhere else. And then there's the rest of the world. In such a global and international scene, we address Koreans as Koreans and the rest of the world as foreigners. Korea has gaming figured out; institutions like KeSPA and their practice environments, as well as the big sponsorship deals they bring in, are unparalleled. Professional gaming took off in Korea before the rest of the world, and since then the greatest players in Starcraft have always come from Korea.

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Winrate

74% vs. Terran64% vs. Protoss66% vs. Zerg

Earnings

$80,118 USD in 2014

3225 WCS Points

Rank #15GSL Code S Season 3 - 2,000 PointsDreamhack: Bucharest - 375 PointsGSL Code S Season 2 - 300 Points
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There And Back Again - a Progamer's Tale


"The goal is always to stand at the highest spot"It's hard to imagine how the outside world must look for someone who grows up as an aspiring professional gamer in Korea. While their superstars, tournaments and practice environments inspire young gamers from all over the world to try their luck at one day winning a GSL, practicing with the very best in a gaming house, or participating in Proleague, what does the world look like from inside Korea? Someone from outside of Korea would have to make their name first to even have a chance at reaching the promised land. They have to work hard and compete at all kinds of international tournaments all over the world, bring home good results and get the world's attention. Only then might they have a chance at competing in Korea.

For someone like INnoVation, the view must be entirely different. He grew up in Korea and became a professional player at a very young age, taking the decision to become a progamer as early as in the seventh grade. He was born in the land of gaming opportunity, the high society of StarCraft. The outside world must have looked like a cruel, rough and uncivilized place to him, if he ever did have a peek at it (E/N: which, knowing Innovation, he likely didn't). Whether he was aware of his luck or not, he took the chance presented to him and turned it into a respectable, highly successful career. There was little doubt that he was the best player in the world at one point in SC2, a run which took him to a GSL Finals and the sequent WCS Season Finals in his homeland, the latter of which he won decisively. He was the integral player in STX' Proleague triumph and ruled the world with the iron fist of a machine.

"At first, I thought that one championship would be enough to be call myself a good player, and be called a good player by others. But after winning a championship, I didn't really feel anything, so I think I have to keep winning. "

Then STX disbanded. And suddenly INnoVation, the best player in the world, Proleague champion, GSL finalist and WCS Season champion, was left without a team. It's impossible to imagine that no big Korean team was interested in picking him up immediately. But in a shocking, ground-breaking move, he left the land of his triumph and turned away from his home, from KeSPA's practice environment and its high standards. A lot of eyes were opened when INnoVation joined Team Acer in September 2013. The king of Korea had decided that he wanted to refocus on competing outside of his home and embracing the international scene. Perhaps that was a sign of the changing times, perhaps it had been his dream to travel all along - who knows. Innovation's lips are, just as they have always been, sealed.

INnoVation took a step outside and a new world unfolded before his eyes. The foreign lands are vast and many adventures awaited a young, motivated INnoVation at the height of his career. Dreamhacks, IEMs, ASUS ROGs spread out before him, luring him in with their promise of easily won prize money and fans shouting his name. Online arenas like Acer's TeamStoryCup and Destiny I were now open to him as well. He had chosen a life in the wild and his strategies were going to be unveiled one way or another. Now he was finally free to play his heart out, play as much as he wanted, wherever he wanted. He was his own master, at least more so than he was under KeSPA's rule. The world was his for the taking. But just as he was about to reach for it... nothing happened. INnoVation quickly realized that it wasn't all clean and simple. Stagnation befell him and the player who had dominated Korea not too long ago was soon confronted with the harsh reality that the world he threw himself into might be a tougher place to compete in than he thought after all.

He won no foreign tournaments, there was no easy prize money, and no hordes of fans cheering his name. He had been labelled a machine before for his inhuman precision and flawlessness, but the community was now making jokes about his programming and software. Some went as far as calling him a hellbat-abuser. His best offline result under Acer was a top four finish at Dreamhack Bucharest. Online results kept stable for him, as he won Destiny I and two Dragon Invitationals, as well as performing admirably for Acer in ATC. But these surely were not the results he was hoping for when he left his home. The wild took its toll on INnoVation. Strong players had made the jump over to the international scene before him and had more experience in these offline settings, and it was no coincidence that players like TaeJa, HerO, San, Life and Jaedong were the ones eliminating him from weekend tournaments. Back at home, Korean Starcraft had moved on and other players had taken his throne and overcome him. Suddenly INnoVation was left alone in the wild, without the practice environment that forged him into a man of steel, without the same precision as before and without the glory, fame and money he had dreamed of.



Just as moving abroad is a leap of faith, an abandoning of everything one has previously known in favor of new and entirely different experiences, returning to the patterns and the discipline of a Korean team such as SK Telecom signifies a homecoming for Innovation. Although going to Korea in this day and age is orders of magnitude less common than leaving, the Mekka of eSports still promises mastery of the game in exchange for unwavering dedication. In choosing to leave the land where he first rose to greatness, Innovation displayed a willingness to sacrifice the exact things that permitted his rise to power in the first place. And in choosing to return to Korea, he made it clear that nothing is more important than winning.

It is to that place, the place that more than any other place in the eSports world rewards dedication and unwavering will, that Innovation returned. He came back far less successful than we expected he would be when he first left for Acer, as a player whose potential was only partly realized during his time in the promised land. He returned to Korea without the trophies he no doubt believed he would come to have, as a player whose enormous potential had been left unfulfilled. A player who has spent so long meddling in what can only be seen as mediocrity by his own lofty standard likely still hungers for success. To someone craving success, Innovation seems to finally have made all the right choices. He joined the most storied team in all of eSports – one team of precious few to claim a legacy greater than any of its individual players – intending to make the final climb back to where he was before he left Korea. As SKT.Innovation, the prodigal son first set his eyes on the trophy that so narrowly eluded him in the middle of 2013 - the GSL trophy.

"I just keep getting the feeling that I dodged a bullet when I won the championship after the sixth map(laughs)"
Innovation made sacrifices when he left the safe and familiar environment of Korean teams, forgoing the discipline and the almost guaranteed top-level skill that follows a strict practice regimen. But in coming back to the birthplace of his career, he made sacrifices I would argue are even greater. It is common for the sheltered to never desire a journey to the other side, because they have never seen that other side with their own eyes and thus have no concept of what they are missing. But for a player like Innovation, whose ventures into the promised land of international travel and global fame opened a world previously unknown to the KeSPA-raised player, returning to his roots means abandoning all that he gained when he first joined Acer.

Sacrificing one's freedoms and pleasures in the pursuit of greatness is the mark of a determined athlete, and by willingly leaving everything that the foreign world has to offer, Innovation has proven that he too possesses such irreproachable determination. Just as in the story of the prodigal son returning home after indulging his cravings and desires in a distant land, Innovation's realizing that the greatness he sought lay in Korea was immediately rewarded. Mere days after his move to SKT was made public, he lifted the trophy that was so heart-breakingly torn away from him by Soulkey. In defeating his teammate soO - the brother who never once debated leaving his birthplace for greener pastures - Innovation had come full circle. He had suffered the most agonizing defeat imaginable and left the KeSPA culture in which he was raised, and only once he sacrificed what he had gained could he take the final step and become GSL champion.

Today, no one can say that Innovation didn't take the chance. He was once mocked and made fun of for his reticent demeanor, his seeming lack of interest in what the world outside his own mind and the game of Starcraft had to offer. Little has changed in the way he conducts himself, just as little in how he interacts with the fans. The change we perceive in Innovation is not a change in Lee Shin Hyung, but a revaluation of the mettle of his character. Of both his intelligence and his courage, and his unshakable commitment to his goals.

Innovation comes to Blizzcon not as the player whose coveted trophy was ripped from his fingertips, a player ever on the cusp of realizing potential that would continue to elude him. He doesn't come to Blizzcon as only a player born and raised within the confines of KeSPA's secluded environment, a player with no understanding of or interest in what lies within reach across the ocean.

Innovation comes to Blizzcon as the player who gave up on much of what made him into the man that once stood above far above his peers in order to seek greatness elsewhere. As the player who abandoned everything that decision gave him once it became clear that the greatness he desired could be found in only one place.. When Innovation walks on stage to face Hyun only days from now, it will be as a player who has seen and experienced all that Starcraft has to offer. As a man who has seen the best of both worlds and suffered the pains of those two wildly different realities, Innovation will no longer be considered the robot of old. He may still wear that persona, a persona we attached to him, but he has transcended that one-dimensional identity.

The changes Innovation has twice brought upon his career have cost him much. First he gave up on all the things that allowed him to reach the top in search of alluring riches and thrilling experiences. Then he parted ways with all that, returning to the very place he left with the ultimate goal of becoming something greater than he was, a more complete man. There is much to be said about Innovation, but I do not doubt that he has succeeded. In the end, those trials and changes will all have been worth it.


INnoVation: The Mechanical Maniac


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Writers: DarkLordOlli and ZealouslyGraphics: shiroiusagi, MeruPhoto Credit: inven eSports, Fomos, Silverfire, itsjustatank, Dreamhack, Blizzard, GHOSTCLAW, Helena Kristiansson, ESLEditor: Zealously, DarkLordOlli, lichter
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 29 2014 22:21 GMT
#2
Gumba where you at
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#3
STX Bogus is back!
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
October 29 2014 22:26 GMT
#4
Sick.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18378 Posts
October 29 2014 22:28 GMT
#5
soO really getting the 2nd to last spot?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 29 2014 22:28 GMT
#6
On October 30 2014 07:28 sharkie wrote:
soO really getting the 2nd to last spot?


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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2014 22:28 GMT
#7
So you guys intentionally left the best 2 for last, right?
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 29 2014 22:31 GMT
#8
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 29 2014 22:32 GMT
#9
Mecca is spelled wrong

other than than amazing article, so excited to see inno vs taeja/soo
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 29 2014 22:34 GMT
#10
On October 30 2014 07:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?


soO is 22 years old.
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Nebulem
Profile Joined May 2014
71 Posts
October 29 2014 22:35 GMT
#11
Your Blizzcon champion.
t.(-.-)z
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
October 29 2014 22:36 GMT
#12
didnt read any of the previews except for this one lol!
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 29 2014 22:36 GMT
#13
On October 30 2014 07:36 Fuell wrote:
didnt read any of the previews except for this one lol!


You should read the Polt one, it was brilliant.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 29 2014 22:43 GMT
#14
I think the last few paragraphs dragged on a little too much
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 29 2014 22:46 GMT
#15
Yeah it's a little long. anyhow, thanks.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 29 2014 22:50 GMT
#16
On October 30 2014 07:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:36 Fuell wrote:
didnt read any of the previews except for this one lol!


You should read the Polt one, it was brilliant.


The Taeja one was too
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 29 2014 22:54 GMT
#17
On October 30 2014 07:36 Fuell wrote:
didnt read any of the previews except for this one lol!


From Classic, "...Blizzcon is his trial, Classic is the accused and the world is his jury. "

From Life,"...He is a meticulous conductor of a style that is chaotic by nature"

From Hyun, "The colt of his instinct and the steed of his will are now striding towards the same goal: Blizzcon, the biggest race of the year."

From Stardust, "They are as falling stars. They burn with a bright intensity as they burn their youth in search for the fulfillment of their dreams, ambitions and ideals. But once they crash, once the sword drops, once military service comes in, it is lights out. "

From MMA, "duckdeok won our hearts with his tears of joy, negating a season of cheese and favorite slaying. Sniper, on the other hand, has been immortalized as the villain...How will MMA be remembered?"

From MC, "The BossToss has made himself one of the game's most iconic players simply by becoming who he wants to be."

From Bomber, "Bomber understands that with big risks come big rewards, and it is precisely this mentality that has molded him into the champion he is today."

From Jaedong, "Jaedong is the paragon of perseverance, the saint of stubbornness. There is no mountain he is unwilling to climb, and there is no barrier he is unwilling to break."

From Jjakji, "In that impossible moment when all was lost, when there was no recourse left, jjakji pushed forward with an intense tenacity and creativity to find a way to win. "

From herO, "Perhaps adversity is what has taught herO never to surrender in the face of defeat, and to celebrate all the more when he wins. Perhaps victory is what has taught him to revel in those moments, to cherish the moments when he is the star of the show, the player no one else could beat."

From Polt, "He has shown us that balance is not about standing on stable ground; it is about building a bridge worth standing on. Polt has reached the pinnacle of the sport at Blizzcon while prospering in two lives. His story is a young boy's dream, a young man's hope, and an old man's fulfillment."

From San, "It’s a story San is intimately familiar with by now. He’s been a small fry for most of his career and he knows what comes with that: the halfhearted cheers after a win, the stoic indifference after a loss, the shrinking feeling of being where you don’t belong. He also remembers what it’s like to topple giants."

From Taeja, "When a player reaches the top of their race...Their builds, responses, compositions get analyzed, dissected, copied and eventually imitated. Yet no other Terran plays like Taeja. They can’t. It is more than a style or a build or a composition: it is a way of thinking. A mode where Taeja’s experience combines with his understanding and his instinct; a place of transcendence that lets him make the best decision almost every time."

If you're interested at all in SC2 rather than just Innovation, you're probably doing yourself a disservice by not reading them.
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Zoure
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Canada23 Posts
October 29 2014 22:54 GMT
#18
Are you intentionally spelling Mecca incorrectly?
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
October 29 2014 22:55 GMT
#19
I hope he somehow loses to 2fact proxy.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 29 2014 23:01 GMT
#20
I would love to see a Zest-Innovation match.

Really would be a battle to see who's the best player in the world.

Sorry, soO! You're favored against anyone else, and don't think you can cheese out Zest again!
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
October 29 2014 23:07 GMT
#21
INNOVATION IS BACK AND READY TO TAKE THIS BLIZZCON!

GO BOGUS!
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 29 2014 23:08 GMT
#22
Gumba should have written this.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 29 2014 23:22 GMT
#23
On October 30 2014 08:01 Pandain wrote:
I would love to see a Zest-Innovation match.

Really would be a battle to see who's the best player in the world.

Sorry, soO! You're favored against anyone else, and don't think you can cheese out Zest again!

Cheese is a part of the game. soO outplayed zest.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 29 2014 23:27 GMT
#24
I wish Inno was on the other half of the bracket for an amazing Inno-Zest finals...
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United Kingdom1381 Posts
October 29 2014 23:32 GMT
#25
There's a typo in the article "king of had Korea" but nice write up.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#26
Amazing. Huge props to the TL writing team for this year's articles.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18378 Posts
October 29 2014 23:46 GMT
#27
On October 30 2014 08:01 Pandain wrote:
I would love to see a Zest-Innovation match.

Really would be a battle to see who's the best player in the world.

Sorry, soO! You're favored against anyone else, and don't think you can cheese out Zest again!


soO is favoured against Innovation as well

(outside finals )
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 29 2014 23:56 GMT
#28
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 29 2014 23:59 GMT
#29
On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.


Debatable :D
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 30 2014 00:07 GMT
#30
On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.

But TaeJa > innovation... You probably mean in Korea.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
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October 30 2014 00:10 GMT
#31
Bogus bogus bogus bogus wooooo

Hope he stomps everyone and wins both Blizzcon and DH. That'd be nice.
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October 30 2014 00:38 GMT
#32
It would be cool to see Innovation win it all
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United States9400 Posts
October 30 2014 00:57 GMT
#33
Can't wait for the TaeJa-Inno match that will surely happen.
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October 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#34
On October 30 2014 07:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:36 Fuell wrote:
didnt read any of the previews except for this one lol!


From Classic, "...Blizzcon is his trial, Classic is the accused and the world is his jury. "

From Life,"...He is a meticulous conductor of a style that is chaotic by nature"

From Hyun, "The colt of his instinct and the steed of his will are now striding towards the same goal: Blizzcon, the biggest race of the year."

From Stardust, "They are as falling stars. They burn with a bright intensity as they burn their youth in search for the fulfillment of their dreams, ambitions and ideals. But once they crash, once the sword drops, once military service comes in, it is lights out. "

From MMA, "duckdeok won our hearts with his tears of joy, negating a season of cheese and favorite slaying. Sniper, on the other hand, has been immortalized as the villain...How will MMA be remembered?"

From MC, "The BossToss has made himself one of the game's most iconic players simply by becoming who he wants to be."

From Bomber, "Bomber understands that with big risks come big rewards, and it is precisely this mentality that has molded him into the champion he is today."

From Jaedong, "Jaedong is the paragon of perseverance, the saint of stubbornness. There is no mountain he is unwilling to climb, and there is no barrier he is unwilling to break."

From Jjakji, "In that impossible moment when all was lost, when there was no recourse left, jjakji pushed forward with an intense tenacity and creativity to find a way to win. "

From herO, "Perhaps adversity is what has taught herO never to surrender in the face of defeat, and to celebrate all the more when he wins. Perhaps victory is what has taught him to revel in those moments, to cherish the moments when he is the star of the show, the player no one else could beat."

From Polt, "He has shown us that balance is not about standing on stable ground; it is about building a bridge worth standing on. Polt has reached the pinnacle of the sport at Blizzcon while prospering in two lives. His story is a young boy's dream, a young man's hope, and an old man's fulfillment."

From San, "It’s a story San is intimately familiar with by now. He’s been a small fry for most of his career and he knows what comes with that: the halfhearted cheers after a win, the stoic indifference after a loss, the shrinking feeling of being where you don’t belong. He also remembers what it’s like to topple giants."

From Taeja, "When a player reaches the top of their race...Their builds, responses, compositions get analyzed, dissected, copied and eventually imitated. Yet no other Terran plays like Taeja. They can’t. It is more than a style or a build or a composition: it is a way of thinking. A mode where Taeja’s experience combines with his understanding and his instinct; a place of transcendence that lets him make the best decision almost every time."

If you're interested at all in SC2 rather than just Innovation, you're probably doing yourself a disservice by not reading them.

Haha i kinda gave up on blizzcon after PartinG failed to qualify :[. I like bogus, zest, life, taeja tho. I'll read those, thanks so much for creating the hype stuchiu.
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Canada4701 Posts
October 30 2014 01:10 GMT
#35
I like Innovation. I'd be happy if he won.
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United States446 Posts
October 30 2014 01:16 GMT
#36
It's Mecca you dingus.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
October 30 2014 01:33 GMT
#37
On October 30 2014 08:59 Jer99 wrote:
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On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.


Debatable :D


On October 30 2014 09:07 The_Templar wrote:
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On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.

But TaeJa > innovation... You probably mean in Korea.


Are people still on the Taeja da bess in the world wagon? Even after all those failed WCS?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 30 2014 01:36 GMT
#38
On October 30 2014 10:33 Thrillz wrote:
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On October 30 2014 08:59 Jer99 wrote:
On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.


Debatable :D


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On October 30 2014 09:07 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2014 08:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
INnoVation time! I see we are ending this cycle of articles with the best player of each race; INno today, soO next (of course he has the second to last article), and finally Zest.

But TaeJa > innovation... You probably mean in Korea.


Are people still on the Taeja da bess in the world wagon? Even after all those failed WCS?

There will always be people on the correct wagon
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
October 30 2014 01:51 GMT
#39
I really really really hope Hyun can beat Inno~~.....I really really hope@!!~~ please practice Hard Hyun!~~
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 02:25:33
October 30 2014 02:23 GMT
#40
HyuN is going to have a very hard time getting past INnoVation, but he has a chance.

INnoVation has been known to have a weakness to bane busts and roach rushes, both of which HyuN is very good at executing. I predict HyuN taking a couple of games, but the series will go to INnoVation.

On October 30 2014 10:33 Thrillz wrote:
Are people still on the Taeja da bess in the world wagon? Even after all those failed WCS?

People are still on JD's bandwagon also.

I think Taeja is the most overrated player. He is good, but he lacks the instinct to win it all.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 30 2014 02:27 GMT
#41
On October 30 2014 07:34 stuchiu wrote:
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On October 30 2014 07:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?


soO is 22 years old.

Future Twix executive confirmed.
Refer to my post.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 30 2014 02:53 GMT
#42
On October 30 2014 11:27 Zenbrez wrote:
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On October 30 2014 07:34 stuchiu wrote:
On October 30 2014 07:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?


soO is 22 years old.

Future Twix executive confirmed.


Or vampire hunter
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 30 2014 02:57 GMT
#43
I hope Innovation doesn't win. The guy is a machine and plays incredible starcraft but hes just so much less interesting then most of the attendees.

Still gonna liquibet him though
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44088 Posts
October 30 2014 03:10 GMT
#44
On October 30 2014 07:34 stuchiu wrote:
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On October 30 2014 07:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?


soO is 22 years old.

soO has two "o" (why am i stating the obvious)
this is a quote
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 03:23 GMT
#45
I think what is so strange is that GumBa still hasnt posted in this thread
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 30 2014 03:33 GMT
#46
Zest will always be the final boss!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 30 2014 03:37 GMT
#47
On October 30 2014 12:23 Cricketer12 wrote:
I think what is so strange is that GumBa still hasnt posted in this thread

I've been wondering about that. I don't think he's been on today.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 30 2014 03:39 GMT
#48
He finally met Innovation who ripped out his spleen. RIP, you died happy.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 03:44 GMT
#49
On October 30 2014 12:39 stuchiu wrote:
He finally met Innovation who ripped out his spleen. RIP, you died happy.

this explains so much and yet so little
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 30 2014 03:45 GMT
#50
On October 30 2014 12:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
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On October 30 2014 12:39 stuchiu wrote:
He finally met Innovation who ripped out his spleen. RIP, you died happy.

this explains so much and yet so little

Yeah... Why was innovation awake so early in the morning in KR time? How did gumba find him so fast?
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 03:49 GMT
#51
On October 30 2014 12:45 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 12:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 30 2014 12:39 stuchiu wrote:
He finally met Innovation who ripped out his spleen. RIP, you died happy.

this explains so much and yet so little

Yeah... Why was innovation awake so early in the morning in KR time? How did gumba find him so fast?

exactly, why the spleen over several different organs? was inno angry at the time, or specifically target gumba?
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
October 30 2014 04:32 GMT
#52
On October 30 2014 07:34 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 07:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Will they actually surprise us by having soO #1 ?


soO is 22 years old.


korean or real age?
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
October 30 2014 05:16 GMT
#53
On October 30 2014 11:23 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
HyuN is going to have a very hard time getting past INnoVation, but he has a chance.

INnoVation has been known to have a weakness to bane busts and roach rushes, both of which HyuN is very good at executing. I predict HyuN taking a couple of games, but the series will go to INnoVation.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 10:33 Thrillz wrote:
Are people still on the Taeja da bess in the world wagon? Even after all those failed WCS?

People are still on JD's bandwagon also.

I think Taeja is the most overrated player. He is good, but he lacks the instinct to win it all.
His 1st to 2nd place ratio wants to have a word with you :D
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
October 30 2014 05:21 GMT
#54
soO...
soO...

(had to write it twice)
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 30 2014 05:26 GMT
#55
Really enjoyed this thank you
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 05:30 GMT
#56
On October 30 2014 14:26 GumBa wrote:
Really enjoyed this thank you

ohmygod! you're alive! inno didnt kill you and rip out your spleen?
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 30 2014 05:32 GMT
#57
On October 30 2014 14:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 14:26 GumBa wrote:
Really enjoyed this thank you

ohmygod! you're alive! inno didnt kill you and rip out your spleen?

Who needs organs
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 06:13 GMT
#58
On October 30 2014 14:32 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 14:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 30 2014 14:26 GumBa wrote:
Really enjoyed this thank you

ohmygod! you're alive! inno didnt kill you and rip out your spleen?

Who needs organs

not robots thats for sure
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Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
October 30 2014 07:26 GMT
#59
On October 30 2014 15:13 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 14:32 GumBa wrote:
On October 30 2014 14:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 30 2014 14:26 GumBa wrote:
Really enjoyed this thank you

ohmygod! you're alive! inno didnt kill you and rip out your spleen?

Who needs organs

not robots thats for sure


Are you implying Inno assimilated GumBa?
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
October 30 2014 07:30 GMT
#60
Question is can he take soO? The answer is probably.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 30 2014 08:05 GMT
#61
On October 30 2014 16:30 Shuffleblade wrote:
Question is can he take soO? The answer is probably.

In the finals he can. At every other stage of the tourney soO is an Immortal and noone has EMP.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 30 2014 09:25 GMT
#62
Lel, "Taeja overrated". I mean, sure those 11 premiers are all fake and all.

About Inno, I hope he makes at least a decent run, but I'd still like to see Polt or Taeja win it.
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 13:07:50
October 30 2014 10:14 GMT
#63
After reading the article I realised how often words "Koreans" and "foreigners" are still used, just checked to make sure, no "foreigners" were in GSL Code A/S in year 2014, no "foreigners" are bound for Blizzcon, I fail to see why so often people still mix these things together, since they become less and less related.

PS. I doubt that I will see any "foreigner" in GSL in year 2015. So sad.
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
October 30 2014 11:31 GMT
#64
On October 30 2014 08:01 Pandain wrote:
I would love to see a Zest-Innovation match.

Really would be a battle to see who's the best player in the world.

Sorry, soO! You're favored against anyone else, and don't think you can cheese out Zest again!

Zest - Innovation finals*

fixed your post.

but that doesn't work out for soojwa getting 2nd place again :S Some adjustments need to be made.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2626 Posts
October 30 2014 13:22 GMT
#65
On October 30 2014 18:25 Ragnarork wrote:
Lel, "Taeja overrated". I mean, sure those 11 premiers are all fake and all.

About Inno, I hope he makes at least a decent run, but I'd still like to see Polt or Taeja win it.



Those are more a testament to his consistency than anything, the thing about Taeja is that he can either win it all or get out really fast, this time I would go for Inno>Taeja
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 30 2014 14:46 GMT
#66
On October 30 2014 07:54 Zoure wrote:
Are you intentionally spelling Mecca incorrectly?


Yes, because we hate all of you
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
yocheco619
Profile Joined February 2011
United States28 Posts
October 30 2014 15:23 GMT
#67
This tourney is so stacked it's unbelievable. Sure, a lot of other players like patience, snute, and scarlett to name a few, would make it more interesting but honestly a lot of these Ro16 matchups could easily be finals in themselves!
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 30 2014 15:38 GMT
#68
ez title boys
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 30 2014 18:29 GMT
#69
On October 30 2014 23:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On October 30 2014 07:54 Zoure wrote:
Are you intentionally spelling Mecca incorrectly?


Yes, because we hate all of you

you just made cause Scarlett wrecked you and your Zestness...
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
October 31 2014 00:16 GMT
#70
Keeping Zest and soO last... a slight nod toward the best players in the world?
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 31 2014 01:07 GMT
#71
On October 31 2014 09:16 fezvez wrote:
Keeping Zest and soO last... a slight nod toward the best players in the world?


If that were the case, then TaeJa would have been last
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 31 2014 01:22 GMT
#72
On October 31 2014 10:07 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 09:16 fezvez wrote:
Keeping Zest and soO last... a slight nod toward the best players in the world?


If that were the case, then TaeJa would have been last

Yeah, not sure why everyone "knows" that Zest and soO are the best
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 01:25 GMT
#73
Uh guys, Bomber is the best.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 31 2014 01:35 GMT
#74
On October 31 2014 10:25 Dodgin wrote:
Uh guys, Bomber is the best.

Maybe he's the best outside this tournament...
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 01:39 GMT
#75
On October 31 2014 10:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 10:25 Dodgin wrote:
Uh guys, Bomber is the best.

Maybe he's the best outside this tournament...


Based on what?
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 14:55:20
October 31 2014 14:43 GMT
#76
Cause Bomber doesn't drink or party the night before tournament and he is used to US unlike sOO who is just as dull as dishwater and most of time spends at computer in team house and who's eyes will be sOO wide open to all the wonders as any other 22 year old computer nerd would in that situation.
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