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Road to BlizzCon #4 - mYi.StarDust - WCS 2014 - Page 3

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IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
October 21 2014 12:43 GMT
#41
"who's very way of playing" should be whose. I only point this out because these articles are good and worth correcting
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 14:12:19
October 21 2014 14:11 GMT
#42
I didn't really like Stardust at first. But over the past year, he has really started to grow on me. I hope he does well against MMA.

Nice write-up btw.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 21 2014 14:44 GMT
#43
I think stardust is the player I'd WANT to see win the most!! He's just such a charismatic guy. I remember after him being eliminated in ASUS ROG (summer 13 iirc) he had no problem doing an interview with one of the Russian streams that was live at the event - smiling and laughing the whole time! Been a huge fan of him since.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
October 21 2014 15:01 GMT
#44
God those cards are cool.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
October 21 2014 15:07 GMT
#45
One of the best writers for "The Book" (TM), would love to see multiple games from StarDust at Blizzcon
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 21 2014 17:12 GMT
#46
Love the writeup for this one.
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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
October 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#47
Stardust is my favorite player at Blizzcon. The way he played the Series against Flash was amazing. If he can use a similar form on that day, he should have a good shot at beating MMA. Gread write up, thats exactly who Stardust is. The most charasmatic Korean we got in SC2.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 21 2014 17:34 GMT
#48
This series of articles is superb, congrats all !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Johan-ae
Profile Joined November 2013
Sweden58 Posts
October 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#49
GOGO Stardust!! :D :D

Stardust has been my favourite player for a long time now. Good luck at blizzcon and show everyone how crazy good you are! :D
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
October 21 2014 21:55 GMT
#50
Almost making me cheer for CheeseDust here...

Fuck it, he seems like a real fighter, I'll cheer for him even against MMA.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 22:00:37
October 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#51
On October 22 2014 06:55 growlizing wrote:
Almost making me cheer for CheeseDust here...

Fuck it, he seems like a real fighter, I'll cheer for him even against MMA.

Just wait until MMA's article comes out
Also I expect jjakji to be the next article
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#52
Cheese dust!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SourApplez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States61 Posts
October 21 2014 22:21 GMT
#53
I was a little too young/out of the loop for Brood War, so most of what I know is from these amazing tales of a by gone era. But one thing that has always stuck with me was the idea of Air Force ACE. Obviously it didn't mean the amenities of teams like Rolster, SK and the like, but it was still a viable option for career players to fulfill their service. Honestly from my knowledge it did seems to be a kind of final resting place for a lot of careers, but it was still a better option than "I am now done for good."

I'm really curious to see how this will adapt in the modern age. As StarCraft 2 and other games gain more and more momentum and prominence in Korea, and main stream culture, will we start seeing teams like AF ACE again? Or is it going to play out how it has for the past few years, a Korean player must make his/her name and career in time before service inevitably ends it. It's a very interesting idea looming over S. Korean player's heads, very few foreigners have that guillotine (of sorts) waiting for them.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 21 2014 22:24 GMT
#54
On October 22 2014 07:21 SourApplez wrote:
I was a little too young/out of the loop for Brood War, so most of what I know is from these amazing tales of a by gone era. But one thing that has always stuck with me was the idea of Air Force ACE. Obviously it didn't mean the amenities of teams like Rolster, SK and the like, but it was still a viable option for career players to fulfill their service. Honestly from my knowledge it did seems to be a kind of final resting place for a lot of careers, but it was still a better option than "I am now done for good."

I'm really curious to see how this will adapt in the modern age. As StarCraft 2 and other games gain more and more momentum and prominence in Korea, and main stream culture, will we start seeing teams like AF ACE again? Or is it going to play out how it has for the past few years, a Korean player must make his/her name and career in time before service inevitably ends it. It's a very interesting idea looming over S. Korean player's heads, very few foreigners have that guillotine (of sorts) waiting for them.


With how young most korean league players seem to be when they hit their peak and retire (from what I've heard), I don't think the korean LoL scene will need to push for an ACE-team for a while.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
October 21 2014 23:04 GMT
#55
Thank you for this awesome article, this is my favorite so far. Very well written and I really liked taking some quotes and tweets from SD himself to show off his personality and his feelings. A very enjoyable read! =D
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
chiasmus
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
October 21 2014 23:06 GMT
#56
So glad this article mentioned Stardust's crazy SC2 debut, the air-toss game against Roro. It was a totally ridiculous game, an artifact of that weird period when the KeSPA pros were playing televised games before they knew what they were doing in SC2. But it's still a game that sticks in my memory two years later.
SourApplez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States61 Posts
October 21 2014 23:19 GMT
#57
On October 22 2014 07:24 Darkdwarf wrote:

With how young most korean league players seem to be when they hit their peak and retire (from what I've heard), I don't think the korean LoL scene will need to push for an ACE-team for a while.



That's an interesting point, and I think you are very correct. I'm curious as to what will happen when careers are extended however. I'm sure in the future we will start seeing careers last up to 10 years as games stabilize and the scene makes it more viable. I don't know much about LoL though, so I could be completely blowing smoke...
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 01:11:34
October 22 2014 01:03 GMT
#58
On October 22 2014 07:21 SourApplez wrote:
I was a little too young/out of the loop for Brood War, so most of what I know is from these amazing tales of a by gone era. But one thing that has always stuck with me was the idea of Air Force ACE. Obviously it didn't mean the amenities of teams like Rolster, SK and the like, but it was still a viable option for career players to fulfill their service. Honestly from my knowledge it did seems to be a kind of final resting place for a lot of careers, but it was still a better option than "I am now done for good."

I'm really curious to see how this will adapt in the modern age. As StarCraft 2 and other games gain more and more momentum and prominence in Korea, and main stream culture, will we start seeing teams like AF ACE again? Or is it going to play out how it has for the past few years, a Korean player must make his/her name and career in time before service inevitably ends it. It's a very interesting idea looming over S. Korean player's heads, very few foreigners have that guillotine (of sorts) waiting for them.

I think you are looking at this through foreigner bifocals. What you refer to as "final resting place" and "guillotine", the S. Korean players view as another stage in life, that requires a big decision. Many will move on, but some will continue to compete.

Its wise to move on from esports. Although the money is lucrative, but the competition is fierce. I think many of them came to the conclusion that sometimes its better to have a steady and decent wage, as opposed to a roller coaster model.

StarCraft 2 and other games gain more and more momentum and prominence in Korea, and main stream culture,

I hate to nit pick your choice of words, but I need to place some attention to this phrase in your post. You refer to Korea as if its not part of main stream culture. It may have a different main stream culture. One that already adopted video games into their culture long before anyone else in North America or Europe. We are playing catch up.

And foreigners have a vastly different culture, but we will see what North American and European players do after a certain age. Some will retire at a young age, but will continue in the industry; others will play to retirement. Someone like Catz looks very comfortable as a coach.
On October 22 2014 08:19 SourApplez wrote:
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On October 22 2014 07:24 Darkdwarf wrote:

With how young most korean league players seem to be when they hit their peak and retire (from what I've heard), I don't think the korean LoL scene will need to push for an ACE-team for a while.



That's an interesting point, and I think you are very correct. I'm curious as to what will happen when careers are extended however. I'm sure in the future we will start seeing careers last up to 10 years as games stabilize and the scene makes it more viable. I don't know much about LoL though, so I could be completely blowing smoke...

Another important aspect to consider is the games that will stabilize in the future. Which games will be made that manage to offer enjoyment in playing and watching? These games will turn into a cash cow that will bring floods of marketing.

Take a look at the LoL championship series, just passed, that had big sponsors like Coca Cola.

These LoL players aren't going to quit anytime soon. That scene is stabilizing immensely, but it has been an artificial growth. Riot has invest millions to sponsor LoL championship series (LCS), but it has paid off. SC2 started as a grass roots community, and only recently has Blizzard invested in creating the WCS. Regardless, both are stabilizing, although LCS took only a year.

Its impossible to guess how long these games will maintain success and attention, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that video games maintain the comparable audience numbers to NFL or NBA.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
October 22 2014 07:50 GMT
#59
Probably the one player I really felt not angry for taking off a JD tourney back in the days, I mean - I was kinda mad, but when saw his face, posture, and attitude - immediately became a fan :D

Close amongst the crowd, and a miracle.. He might be my favourite this year though..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 22 2014 07:52 GMT
#60
Can't believe I forgot to post this pic

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