EPTOn September 25 2014 19:14 GumBa wrote:
Does wax have passion again?
Does wax have passion again?
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To KeSPA or not to KeSPA? DRG and Trap talk about their ch…
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Waxangel
United States33703 Posts
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On September 25 2014 19:13 REyeM wrote: Good luck getting to Ro8 of GSL ever again with that attidude DRG. Butthurt kespa fan  but seriously mad respects for DRG, Acer or Liquid, pick up plox | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
It's weird though, in any other real sport, if you are going to be a pro, you have to sacrifice your 'freedom' too... | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
On September 25 2014 19:37 Ammanas wrote: hmm, this is interesting. They both admit that being in Kespa would give them more money and also more skill, but DRG doesn't want to sacrifice his 'freedom'. It's weird though, in any other real sport, if you are going to be a pro, you have to sacrifice your 'freedom' too... Most pro sports that I know of you train until the early/lateish afternoon with your team mates, then go back to live in your own place, unless your coach is Felixstowe Magath Because of the diminishing returns and even counter-productive burnout issue that comes with overtraining in physical sports you don't have many who grind it out 8+ hours a day. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 25 2014 20:02 Wombat_NI wrote: Most pro sports that I know of you train until the early/lateish afternoon with your team mates, then go back to live in your own place, unless your coach is Felixstowe Magath Because of the diminishing returns and even counter-productive burnout issue that comes with overtraining in physical sports you don't have many who grind it out 8+ hours a day. dunno, I mostly hear about 2 phase training in football, hockey and tennis which are the sports I follow the most. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
The Kespa regime will make most players better, but equally can be a bit restrictive for certain personalities. I could see DRG benefitting from a stint in a Kespa house that isn't especially prolonged, for example Stardust developed a lot better macro play styles from his time with CJ. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
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Krossfire
Australia1071 Posts
Kinda wish he would join Kespa and then just crush the competition...but he's more of a free spirit personality. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 25 2014 20:47 bo1b wrote: I can't think of any sport on the planet which has 12+ hour a day every day of the year training regime like the kespa houses do lol. I don't think they do though. From what we've heard (mostly from Park stay with EG-TL and then some foreigners stay in CJ house), they do 8 hours training with 1 hour for lunch, which is exactly the same I do in my job. All the 12/14/whatever hours training are players playing the game even outside of official training hours (when preparing for their individual matches for example). | ||
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SFDuality
United States1318 Posts
On September 25 2014 18:17 GTR wrote: I think one thing people forget about KeSPA is the luxury of having an experienced coaching staff going day in, day out through your gameplay. It's definitely a factor which non-KeSPA teams can't provide. This is why I think Fantasy will flop once he moves to a foreign team. I love him and all, but I think he's more of a product of an awesome coaching system (iloveoov et al) which is why he's been able to be so successful. Fantasy has accomplished pretty much zilch in SC2. At this point, a move to a foreign team couldn't hurt. The Kespa training regimen is great for those who need it, but motivation is an important factor as well. If getting to play in foreign tournaments provides more motivation than being under the Kespa whip, then moving to a foreign team is perfectly understandable. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On September 25 2014 18:17 GTR wrote: I think one thing people forget about KeSPA is the luxury of having an experienced coaching staff going day in, day out through your gameplay. It's definitely a factor which non-KeSPA teams can't provide. This is why I think Fantasy will flop once he moves to a foreign team. I love him and all, but I think he's more of a product of an awesome coaching system (iloveoov et al) which is why he's been able to be so successful. I blame JD's bad results from moving to EG instead of staying with KeSPA; his success always came from being one of the hardest working progamers, an environment that doesn't really exist in the western teams. Some gamers don't benefit from a less strict schedule. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27422 Posts
On September 25 2014 21:53 sushiman wrote: I blame JD's bad results from moving to EG instead of staying with KeSPA; his success always came from being one of the hardest working progamers, an environment that doesn't really exist in the western teams. Some gamers don't benefit from a less strict schedule. His results were pretty shockingly bad in 2013 when he was on EG for sure. He may well benefit from going back now, but it is a complete myth that JD hasn't got results on a foreign team. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 25 2014 21:53 sushiman wrote: I blame JD's bad results from moving to EG instead of staying with KeSPA; his success always came from being one of the hardest working progamers, an environment that doesn't really exist in the western teams. Some gamers don't benefit from a less strict schedule. Every gamer can get better following more strict schedule. It is just about what are you ready to sacrifice for the success of becoming better. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Coaches also are a factor, but I think they can't do as much when it comes to improving the skill of the players, like they could do in BW. I guess if you feel capable of placing in the money at foreign events its tempting to leave Kespa even if its just for a short while. | ||
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