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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
"Hello, Fans. We have some sad news today. effOrt and Hydra, who have been with CJ ENTUS for a long time as the best team representatives, are now no longer part of us CJ ENTUS due to contract termination. We’d like to convey our appreciation to them, as they dedicated their best efforts to the success of the team. We hope to see you soon again, and please know that we’ll always cheer for you two." 
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9022 Posts
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
thought for sure he was going to Love starleague edit- anyways, not really a surprise given contracts on Kespa teams would be structured around proleague season end Sad that the CJ zerg line (he who must not be named, GGplay for a little bit) and the champions (Effort, hydra) is gone | ||
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FlyingSteaks
Brazil433 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:51 Darkhorse wrote: This is too much kespa guys... Foreign teams aren't that rich And kespa apparently neither. Then again, I´m not surprised that young adults want to get out of the house at some point. It´s not like they can be pro gamers forever. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
Or is it only for retirements and disbandments? | ||
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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
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Tamagoshi
Brazil981 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:51 Darkhorse wrote: This is too much kespa guys... Foreign teams aren't that rich They must think of foreign teams like "FREEDOM, EASY MONEY, WOMEN AND FAME, FUCKYEAHHHH" | ||
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sharkie
Austria18422 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. FREEDOOOOOOOOOOM | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:53 Thrillz wrote: Next thing you know Stork will leave Samsung...then Flash will leave KT.... At this point, KT which was formerly notorious for just buying out players has the most consistent roster. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
A good team better pick him up holy shit. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote: EffOrt D: A good team better pick him up holy shit. Maybe after the other 20 good Koreans who need a team get picked up. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
I miss the good ol' days of IM, Prime, ST, MVP, Slayers, FXO, TSL and NSH :/ | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
man.... now that miniwheats mentions it, the old GSTL's were so glorious.... Proleague just hasn't been the same with sc2  | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ugh.... It's like every team is losing its identifiable players aside from Jin Air and KT. sc2 is more of an individual game anyway, but still. It makes it harder to craft team storylines and hype when players are constantly drifting back and forth. Really annoying >< I miss the good ol' days of IM, Prime, ST, MVP, Slayers, FXO, TSL and NSH :/ Those were way before my days, but even I miss the SK Telecom, STX, and WJS of 2013. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:54 Tamagoshi wrote: They must think of foreign teams like "FREEDOM, EASY MONEY, WOMEN AND FAME, FUCKYEAHHHH" Free money, foreign white girls, late night parties, rockstar treatment! ..... And then the truth sets in lmao. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
For full palette of zergs. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ugh.... It's like every team is losing its identifiable players aside from Jin Air and KT. sc2 is more of an individual game anyway, but still. It makes it harder to craft team storylines and hype when players are constantly drifting back and forth. Really annoying >< I miss the good ol' days of IM, Prime, ST, MVP, Slayers, FXO, TSL and NSH :/ Did you seriously forget oGs? Who didn't love oGs?! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:10 Ej_ wrote: If there's a player Acer needs to pick up, it's effOrt. For full palette of zergs. Too bad rumor has it Acer isn't looking to pick anyone up... just like every other foreign team. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Did you seriously forget oGs? Who didn't love oGs?! You're right , I should be ashamed They were outdoing IM for a little bit in code S representation. | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:55 Caihead wrote: At this point, KT which was formerly notorious for just buying out players has the most consistent roster. Don't jinx it now. Before we know it, Zest is the next one leaving for greener pastures. | ||
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:28 lichter wrote: Kespa fanboys gonna be so confused in 2015 I wish I could upvote this so much. I'm so amused by the reality of it. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:51 Darkhorse wrote: This is too much kespa guys... Foreign teams aren't that rich Don't worry claufzubu got this one | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:33 Lumi wrote: I wish I could upvote this so much. I'm so amused by the reality of it. It's already setting in for me. | ||
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lastride
2390 Posts
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Crot4le
England2927 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Maybe after the other 20 good Koreans who need a team get picked up. I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's getting to the point where there's so many great teamless Koreans at the moment that KeSPA may have to set up a new '8th Team' again like they did after MBCGame Hero, WeMade Fox and Hwaesung Oz disbanded. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:41 Crot4le wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's getting to the point where there's so many great teamless Koreans at the moment that KeSPA may have to set up a new '8th Team' again like they did after MBCGame Hero, WeMade Fox and Hwaesung Oz disbanded. Sadly, I highly doubt they will. I'd be amazing but I just feel like we shouldn't count on it | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
proleague is in a stable state right now, team wise at least, and if it reduces in scale a little bit kespa shouldn't be worried. LoL is their mainstay and they have run lots of leagues in the past that were stable and not as large (special forces proleague, etc). Individual players, even though they are high profile, shouldn't cause any worry if kespa focuses on quality and stability, especially since they continue to have better relations internationally | ||
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iMrising
United States1099 Posts
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
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wl4d
France103 Posts
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On September 12 2014 16:12 shabby wrote: Dirty EG money confirmed to form two full kespa teams? That's what I got from this thread. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
Guess this is just the start. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
I mean he's been around for like 5-6 years, it's already a lot. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On September 12 2014 16:35 Gwavajuice wrote: Ok I'm certainly wrong here but I didn't see Effort play a decent game in a long time now, ins't it just retirement time for him? I mean he's been around for like 5-6 years, it's already a lot. He beat the defending GSL champion in the first match of the season 2-0, then he beat sOs (and got the #1 headband!). | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: https://www.facebook.com/entus.progaming/photos/a.305931866171407.62458.305873512843909/633235076774416/?type=1 "Hello, Fans. We have some sad news today. effOrt and Hydra, who have been with CJ ENTUS for a long time as the best team representatives, are now no longer part of us CJ ENTUS due to contract termination. We’d like to convey our appreciation to them, as they dedicated their best efforts to the success of the team. We hope to see you soon again, and please know that we’ll always cheer for you two." Pun intended? Anyhow, very sad news. Hope effort finds a new home (or starts to play BW again, oh please! The only zerg who could punish Flash's greedy openings. | ||
nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
every time i get back into this scene i just get sad. its probably time to leave sc for me. | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On September 12 2014 17:23 nimdil wrote: Truly SC:BW progamers that retired before SC2 competed in the golden age of korean Starcraft. lol no shit. | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:50 Caihead wrote: Old school CJ is just herO, bbyong and skyhigh who doesn't play any more now. "old school"? T___T | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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OveRtheStarS
Canada69 Posts
Good for them, taking the initiative to find their passion and those who would reciprocate it. This also takes die-hard fans out of the woodwork and into the mainstream. Maybe incite a bit more passion into public and mainstream tournaments. | ||
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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EnPo
Finland411 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:53 HelloSon wrote: rip kjwcj rip | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
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5c0rp10n
Germany342 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
What's happening... ? | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 12 2014 18:08 Ragnarork wrote: Wait there's been a The International in Starcraft 2 as well? What's happening... ? The contracts are ending. Exactly same thing happened last year, just more. btw inb4 most of them returning to Kespa after first foreign team offers them 700/month with no food and no team house :D | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On September 12 2014 18:06 Marou wrote: I expect a lot of those free agents will join other KeSPA teams before the beginning of PL. I hope so. There are too many Korean players without a team right now | ||
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Ograkk
Sweden22 Posts
Personally, Im actually happy if a few of them moves to NA/EU. Im more than a little tired of seeing Taeja, MC, Polt, Stardust, HerO, Hyun, Jaedong, San in the top of every single tournament. This might even open up for new talent in Proleague. Im waiting for the next Maru! | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37026 Posts
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REyeM
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dDazed
192 Posts
On September 12 2014 18:48 Musicus wrote: I guess it's rather be hungry and free than well fed in jail? :D Freedom is worth dying for, so it is definitely worth starving for! | ||
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LeeJohnDong
Ireland58 Posts
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:16 REyeM wrote: I think KeSPA is slowly shutting down the doors for SC2, It's just not that popular, perhaps they are planning to focus on DotA 2 along side League, League is the new BW in Korea. What? This exact thing happened every year even in BW. Contracts end, new contracts are being negotiated. Bear in mind that we have several direct quotes from Kespa representatives that Starcraft 2 is in MUCH better shape then it was same time last year. On September 12 2014 19:19 LeeJohnDong wrote: Why koreans all bailing ? because of the wcs changes? all at once is a bit weird. Because all teh contracts are ending in August. There's nothing more to it. Same thing (even worse, cause there were retirements instead of 'joining foreign teams') happened last year. And same thing was also happening in BW, although that was only Kespa teams shuffling players between them cause there was nothing else :p | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:19 Ammanas wrote: What? This exact thing happened every year even in BW. Contracts end, new contracts are being negotiated. Bear in mind that we have several direct quotes from Kespa representatives that Starcraft 2 is in MUCH better shape then it was same time last year. It was still a massive deal in BW whenever A-teamers switch teams, Bisu going to SKT from MBC basically killed MBC's chances at playoffs for instance. It's not common that 4-5 A-teamers suddenly all jump ship. | ||
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Crazyahmed
Canada280 Posts
People are still used to their BW salaries, and Teams are offering lower salaries in general due to lower number of fans and sponsorship. This is pure speculation and maybe some people with more insight can comment on this. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:16 REyeM wrote: I think KeSPA is slowly shutting down the doors for SC2, It's just not that popular, perhaps they are planning to focus on DotA 2 along side League, League is the new BW in Korea. There will be another season for sure. Teams are just negotiating new/old contracts. It happens in every sports, especially in soccer | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:42 SuperHofmann wrote: There will be another season for sure. Teams are just negotiating new/old contracts. It happens in every sports, especially in soccer Well, I hope so. I'm just worried because there are so many changes going on in Korea and outside aswell, it just doesn't seem stable. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On September 12 2014 19:44 REyeM wrote: Well, I hope so. I'm just worried because there are so many changes going on in Korea and outside aswell, it just doesn't seem stable. It happens everytime, and people are super-hyped. | ||
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
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Knatterking
Germany405 Posts
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Just like the good ol' times. | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. Are you pointing that Byun might be dead? ..only in death lies true freedom. | ||
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Penev
28481 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Rhaeide
Spain304 Posts
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Nightwishone
Italy391 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Moonsalt
267 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
On September 12 2014 18:11 Ammanas wrote: The contracts are ending. Exactly same thing happened last year, just more. btw inb4 most of them returning to Kespa after first foreign team offers them 700/month with no food and no team house :D My thoughts exactly... | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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Pharaphobia
Czech Republic58 Posts
On September 12 2014 20:41 Nightwishone wrote: Kespa crumbles... Flash falls... It's a new era, and foreign teams will rise to power. Nope it's the power of "SC2 is sadly done in eSport gg wp | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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SFDuality
United States1318 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:28 lichter wrote: Kespa fanboys gonna be so confused in 2015 According to Kespa fanboy logic, everyone who's ever played for Kespa is a Kespa player, regardless of where they are now, just as long as they're still successful. It will take more than this to confuse them. This is really sad, though. Kespa teams are bleeding all their best players, and I doubt all of them (or even most of them) will get picked up | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 12 2014 21:06 Noocta wrote: I don't understand what's going on in Korea. There's no foreign team hiring, why is this happening. Honestly we don't really know if there are any teams on the market for a top player right now. Did you expect Dead Pixels? | ||
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pNRG
United States333 Posts
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Trustworthy-Tony
Tanzania187 Posts
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Trustworthy-Tony
Tanzania187 Posts
On September 12 2014 20:29 Rhaeide wrote: Nooo!!... I hope he finds a new team and raises again as a top player. He already is a top player. Just because he's been playing with one hand for fun for the entirety of Starcraft 2 doesn't mean he couldn't easily crush everyone if he wanted to. | ||
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Rhaeide
Spain304 Posts
Either way, I'll never forget his glorious BW days, when he was almost unbeateable and he won his OSL against Flash, and of course when I met him in Blizzcon 2009 that he also won. | ||
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Zeweig
Sweden189 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. Sides -> destroyed That aside, was hoping to see more of EffOrt in Code S/Proleague :/ | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
herO better not leave... I hope Effort and Hydra find good teams and we see them soon. | ||
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fmod
Cayman Islands330 Posts
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Man... This is another sad day. Hope he stays around. He made code S ! | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
IS IT - a) - easy money in the foreign scene ?, or b) - KeSPa is getting broke ? (which I honestly doubt it) It's really weird.. WHY ?? - everyone thought that the problems with region-locks would affect the other guys, not the Koreans that already compete in GSL/Proleague :/ | ||
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bsdaemon
618 Posts
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:51 Packawana wrote: This might actually be really good for the Korean scene. It allows lesser known players to move up and really gain notoriety on the main stage. Star players leaving teams to go abroad isn't good for the scene or sponsorships at all. This is a very bad thing for Korean SC2. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1976 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On September 12 2014 23:51 TaShadan wrote: What is going on with Korean Sc2? Were the last finals a financial failure? This is only non-Proleague period. Players are reviewing their contract. No fear guys | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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MonkeyBot
United States125 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. But isn't Kespa jail better now that a TL writer is there too? Better question: will Lichter be let out if Kespa starts to falter? | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On September 12 2014 23:13 VArsovskiSC wrote: I don't get the reason behind this.. IS IT - a) - easy money in the foreign scene ?, or b) - KeSPa is getting broke ? (which I honestly doubt it) It's really weird.. WHY ?? - everyone thought that the problems with region-locks would affect the other guys, not the Koreans that already compete in GSL/Proleague :/ Why do so many people here seemingly have such trouble understanding the reasons behind these player's decisions? Most of the times it's stated right there in the announcement or the exit interview ... All you have to do is read. Players want to experience other things than be chained to KeSPA for all their careers. I doubt it's a money issue, since the steady income of being on a KeSPA team outpaces what most people make from attending big "foreign" tournaments especially if you deduct the travelling costs for attending. I doubt it has much to do with the region lock either, as that makes it harder for lots of Koreans to get at that "easy foreign money" not easier. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3384 Posts
Only skyhigh remains from the glorious days (herO and bbyong sure, but it wasnt the same level). My passion just took a serious hit! I m sorry CJ, depending on where those 2 go I might have to change my team logo... Lorning, i now know how you felt a couple weeks ago... | ||
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada973 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:13 Shuffleblade wrote: Wow, this one hits right in the feels man. Really liked Effort, even though I never saw his play in SC1. Really hope he gets into a different kespa team. His victory over Flash in the OSL was amazing, totally clutch comeback after being down 0-2 against God in his prime: | ||
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lastride
2390 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:12 WGT-Baal wrote: no!!! every one but him! he s our Soul! god damn it! Only skyhigh remains from the glorious days (herO and bbyong sure, but it wasnt the same level). My passion just took a serious hit True words indeed.whats next,stork leaving samsung or fantasy leaving skt?oh wait... | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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myminerals
560 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ugh.... It's like every team is losing its identifiable players aside from Jin Air and KT. sc2 is more of an individual game anyway, but still. It makes it harder to craft team storylines and hype when players are constantly drifting back and forth. Really annoying >< I miss the good ol' days of IM, Prime, ST, MVP, Slayers, FXO, TSL and NSH :/ Blame globalization? It will never be the way it was in times of BW, for good or for worse. Hopefully we see younger and better players. | ||
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crazyweasel
607 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote: His victory over Flash in the OSL was amazing, totally clutch comeback after being down 0-2 against God in his prime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7Xm-I-FLY although flashed played the same 14cc over and over | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada973 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:47 crazyweasel wrote: although flashed played the same 14cc over and over Sure, but at the time Flash was winning with the same 14cc over and over. It didn't seem like anyone could stop him. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:31 [SXG]Phantom wrote: Its interesting that korean teams think that foreigner teams got more money than KeSPA. They are soon going to hit reality and, just like innovation, try to go back to KeSPA. Don't know if they necessarily think foreign teams have more money, maybe they'd just prefer a chance to pilfer international tournaments rather than focus on Proleague. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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esdf
Croatia736 Posts
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On September 13 2014 00:33 vesicular wrote: Team switches happen every year, but I don't remember a time when so many team ace's didn't renew contracts. I think this is a key point to remember. The people dropping out of teams right now are already notable in the scene (well most of them), and under the right conditions, could foster a cult of personality similar to other players who left Korea and became successful (Bomber, Polt, MC, etc.). More than anything, this seems like a calculated move by many players who recognize the potential of their brand. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. it wasnt so much being jailed in KeSPA as it was being jailed with lichter | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On September 12 2014 15:28 lichter wrote: Kespa fanboys gonna be so confused in 2015 hahah | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On September 13 2014 04:31 Shinespark wrote: They're all retiring. At this rate I'm wondering if SC2 will still exist in korea when LotV comes out you have psychic powers? | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
Think about guys like Fantasy, or Effort himself. They haven't made finals, or looked all that threatning. What do you think they'll do? | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
maybe not powers, but problems | ||
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Greenhit
United States200 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Liquid'Effort inc. Nerdy man tears would be shed. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
Maybe I hit a nerve. Maybe you just don't want to accept that Effort doesn't look likely to win anything anymore. The fact is that a bunch of guys are leaving their teams to join foreign teams for one last blaze of glory before the military. Marineking for example, explained this was his reasoning, practically word for word. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:05 Shinespark wrote: Maybe I hit a nerve. Maybe you just don't want to accept that Effort doesn't look likely to win anything anymore. The fact is that a bunch of guys are leaving their teams to join foreign teams for one last blaze of glory before the military. Marineking for example, explained this was his reasoning, practically word for word. The fact is that if they stay in KeSPA they can only win GSL outside Proleague. Obviously living visititing the world doing DH/IEM/RedBull/etc. is more exciting then stay full time in korea, especially if u are like PartinG, Rain or Effort that u already achieved some 1°st places in your carrier. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:12 SuperHofmann wrote: The fact is that if they stay in KeSPA they can only win GSL outside Proleague. Obviously living visititing the world doing DH/IEM/RedBull/etc. is more exciting then stay full time in korea, especially if u are like PartinG, Rain or Effort that u already achieved some 1°st places in your carrier. That does sound reasonable but like I said, Effort just doesn't look like a top korean. DH, IEM, etc may have way weaker player pools than any korean tournament, but still the ro8 will be all koreans. A few tournaments/months later you'll see Effort retiring. Unless he wins something, which I think is unlikely. | ||
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PineapplePizza
United States749 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
I am a CJ fan since the Coach Cho with Savior - Much - Iris generation . Passing the torch to Effort - Movie - Skyhigh and then Show - Hydra - Bunny and now herO . Now i don't know whats left of CJ anymore ... | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
the teams will be fine and it will challenge them to bring up new talent. always look on the bright side | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Out of the BW A-teamers still on their original teams, you still have the KT core of KT: Flash, Action, Stats, Zest Samsung:  Stork,  RorO,  Reality, ShineSKT T1: soO, ParalyzECJ: HerO, sKyHighJin Air: Speed At least KT/Samsung Flash, Action, Stats, Zest is keeping strong..but damn..EffOrt/Hydra were the face of CJ with Sky and herOSKT T1 without both Fanta/Bisu doesnt feel the same... Maybe JangBi wants to return to Samsung and make things right again | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:20 Grampz wrote: i just hope everyone realizes its not all about the money. maybe these guys just didn't want to stay in korea or something the teams will be fine and it will challenge them to bring up new talent. always look on the bright sideAnd I hope the Koreans realize you need money to send your players abroad. Even if you don't give them a penny as salary, fly them around costs a lot. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
DRG Innovation Parting Fantasy Effort Hydra Rain That would destroy every team in SPL including my beloved KT T_T.. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1976 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:20 LighT. wrote: Its pretty crazy.. Out of the BW A-teamers still on their original teams, you still have the KT core of KT: Flash, Action, Stats, Zest Samsung: Stork, RorO, Reality, ShineSKT T1: soO, ParalyzECJ: HerO, sKyHighJin Air: Speed At least KT/Samsung Flash, Action, Stats, Zest is keeping strong..but damn..EffOrt/Hydra were the face of CJ with Sky and herOSKT T1 without both Fanta/Bisu doesnt feel the same... Maybe JangBi wants to return to Samsung and make things right again I doubt Jangbi will start playing sc2 again. | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:15 TaShadan wrote: I doubt Jangbi will start playing sc2 again. Well I guess if the offer is right  He actually liked the game and he was kinda 'forced' to retire by January and Samsung management after they treated him like shit Wouldn't be too surprising to see him play again, I guess. /wishful thinking | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:28 LighT. wrote: A line up of just the free agents.. DRG Innovation Parting Fantasy Effort Hydra Rain That would destroy every team in SPL including my beloved KT T_T.. Nah. KT would shit all over this team, like they did to SKT in the finals. SKT had: Classic, Parting, Rain, Soulkey, soO (and Dark) as their finals team, and still got rekt. This lineup looks more scary that the free agents list above. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:43 Ammanas wrote: Well I guess if the offer is right He actually liked the game and he was kinda 'forced' to retire by January and Samsung management after they treated him like shit Wouldn't be too surprising to see him play again, I guess. /wishful thinking Still holding out hope for a JangBi comeback. That would be glorious. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. 10/10 | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:17 raga4ka wrote: I am a CJ fan since the Coach Cho with Savior - Much - Iris generation . Passing the torch to Effort - Movie - Skyhigh and then Show - Hydra - Bunny and now herO . Now i don't know whats left of CJ anymore ... At least you still have a team... | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
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RenZ
Singapore65 Posts
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
Jaedong, Bisu, Flash and Sea in one group but at the same time, I wish EffOrt good luck in the future. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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wl4d
France103 Posts
Edit : also money isn't everything, maybe they just want to travel around and do something else than proleague. | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:28 LighT. wrote: A line up of just the free agents.. DRG Innovation Parting Fantasy Effort Hydra Rain That would destroy every team in SPL including my beloved KT T_T.. +Bomber Would be a good Line-up for a Red Bull Team. | ||
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Nerfed
Russian Federation1132 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
On September 13 2014 21:21 wl4d wrote: I think I read somewhere that CJ (or maybe just Park) has a very strict policy about focusing only on proleague during the season, that's why effort and all the CJ players never really had results outside of proleague. But effort definitely has what it takes to take down big tournaments, he's very fast and accurate in his execution, and even though he disappointed in the GSL he still took down sos and classic, not counting maru (twice), flash, ty and soulkey in spl. I don't see why some of you think he is not a top player, he definitely has the potential. Edit : also money isn't everything, maybe they just want to travel around and do something else than proleague. That's effort for you. Fast as fuck. Hope to see him in some tourneys now! | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Good luck to EffOrt, did he also state he'd like to move abroad? | ||
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Pangpootata
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
On September 13 2014 13:45 slytown wrote: This just isn't right. CJ is Effort and Hydra. They made that team what it is. Time for a new generation | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On September 14 2014 11:42 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Does anyone have anyone have any information to confirm or rule out EffOrt returning to BW? Still no new info on the $86,000+ Brood War LoveTV Starleague 3 since September 1st unfortunately. But I hope EffOrt do come back! the SoSPA zerg line-up needs him | ||
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:47 stuchiu wrote: Every Korean realizes they'd rather die free than be jailed in Kespa. Let them come to NA server!! help us like they did EU. I think its awsome that Koreans are subliminally sending a message to KeSPA saying they are tired of the way the structure is. Come to the land of the free boys! | ||
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Hassan_RO
Romania77 Posts
Indeed it seems like way way waaaay too many pros leaving their teams atm. ATM There is no space and no money for them in the foreign scene, that's a fact....i don't see how the serious foreign teams could possibly absorb ~10-15 KESPA super-players....we will probably see alot more episodes such as Dear and Innovation, ppl returning to KESPA after seeing that the world isn't exactly "the promised land full of esports gold and proteams" | ||
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Gene(S)is
Sweden419 Posts
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Crot4le
England2927 Posts
On September 15 2014 07:10 HyralGambit wrote: Still no new info on the $86,000+ Brood War LoveTV Starleague 3 since September 1st unfortunately. But I hope EffOrt do come back! the SoSPA zerg line-up needs him Why would effOrt go back to BW for barely any prize money? I think he'll most likely end up at KT Rolster or Prime. | ||
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
On September 12 2014 14:54 sharkie wrote: No wonder cj bought byul Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Yeah, that might be an overreaction, but I'll never forget the one game he played so poorly and threw the game nonstop to his opponent. Don't even remember anything about it other than it being a ZvZ on Yeonsu. It was like he was paid to lose that game. Freedom! And the same fate as Dear, to fall by the wayside due to poor practice conditions. Not everybody can be Taeja or Polt. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
So every korean leaving KeSPA is supposed to be gutted and die in agony by the hand of anonymous tormentor? | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Earawen
France51 Posts
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