• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:26
CET 09:26
KST 17:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)5Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)11Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Modalert 200 for Focus and Alertness Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Sex and weight loss Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2780 users

Hydra leaves CJ Entus to join a foreign team and WCS NA or…

Forum Index > SC2 General
136 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 11 2014 14:04 GMT
#81
On September 11 2014 22:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 22:42 Thax wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


Wow look at that list of names who will never reach Code S again. Everyone knows foreign Koreans can't compete in Korea. Failures looking for easy foreign money.


This comment is pretty hilarious given how tournaments have looked for the last few months. Flash struggling against MC and Stardust? Check. Solar and Zest both losing to Taeja? Check. San beating Byul into the ground? Check. DRG making the Ro8? Check.

I'd never say that you don't know what you're talking about, but it certainly looks that way.

a bunch of particular matches isn't much either. And a terran struggling vs protoss isn't big news for over a year (bomber vs has - classic). I get what you're saying but honestly I think only Tajea would be a force to be reckoned with in KR.
Michael Probu
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 11 2014 14:22 GMT
#82
Wow another one...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 11 2014 14:31 GMT
#83
Hmmm I don't feel that negative towards this. If there were no possibilities to go to foreign teams like in BW Hydra probably would've just retired. It's not that hard to imagine that spending 7 years in the same environment will become very uninspiring. I feel it's a positive thing there's possibilities (however limited) for these players to take new steps without having to quit Starcraft altogether.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 11 2014 14:31 GMT
#84
On September 11 2014 22:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 22:42 Thax wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


Wow look at that list of names who will never reach Code S again. Everyone knows foreign Koreans can't compete in Korea. Failures looking for easy foreign money.


This comment is pretty hilarious given how tournaments have looked for the last few months. Flash struggling against MC and Stardust? Check. Solar and Zest both losing to Taeja? Check. San beating Byul into the ground? Check. DRG making the Ro8? Check.

I'd never say that you don't know what you're talking about, but it certainly looks that way.


Check.

If anything, it shows that WCS EU / NA aren't far away from WCS KR at all.
maru lover forever
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 11 2014 14:33 GMT
#85
On September 11 2014 22:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 22:42 Thax wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


Wow look at that list of names who will never reach Code S again. Everyone knows foreign Koreans can't compete in Korea. Failures looking for easy foreign money.


This comment is pretty hilarious given how tournaments have looked for the last few months. Flash struggling against MC and Stardust? Check. Solar and Zest both losing to Taeja? Check. San beating Byul into the ground? Check. DRG making the Ro8? Check.

I'd never say that you don't know what you're talking about, but it certainly looks that way.



How bored are you that you answered to a post, that called Rain a failure looking for easy foreign money?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 11 2014 14:43 GMT
#86
Why are all these players moving out? Good job WCS system, and good luck to him finding a team anytime soon with SKT's runaways on the market.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 11 2014 14:57 GMT
#87
On September 11 2014 23:33 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 22:51 Zealously wrote:
On September 11 2014 22:42 Thax wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


Wow look at that list of names who will never reach Code S again. Everyone knows foreign Koreans can't compete in Korea. Failures looking for easy foreign money.


This comment is pretty hilarious given how tournaments have looked for the last few months. Flash struggling against MC and Stardust? Check. Solar and Zest both losing to Taeja? Check. San beating Byul into the ground? Check. DRG making the Ro8? Check.

I'd never say that you don't know what you're talking about, but it certainly looks that way.



How bored are you that you answered to a post, that called Rain a failure looking for easy foreign money?


Trigger-happy finger
AdministratorBreak the chains
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 11 2014 15:01 GMT
#88
Should just go back to BW, he left at his prime
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 15:07:40
September 11 2014 15:07 GMT
#89
Who wants to crowd source a team? lulz...
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 11 2014 15:42 GMT
#90
All these guys leaving korean teams are going to end up on crappy little foreign teams or retiring soon.
I'm guessing they're leaving in the first place because they are retiring soon. SC2 just doesn't pay anymore, and now that they can't even play in WCS NA and EU, they might as well move on.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
September 11 2014 15:44 GMT
#91
Really seems like BW Koreans are realizing how big the eSports world is now. So many of them have hardly left Korea, and then they get a taste of what us foreign fans are like, and now it's time for a foreign team :D

I could be totally off base, but aww well
GOIMBA.com <--- eSports betting :)
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
September 11 2014 16:01 GMT
#92
On September 11 2014 19:23 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
What do you think about the new WCS rules ?
There is good and bad things. I think they are fine for the foreign players and bad for the Koreans who play for a foreign team.

What are your plans for the next season ?
I would like to join a foreign team and compete in WCS North America or WCS Europe. I plan to leave South Korea and gain a visa to be part of one of those two tournaments.

That doesn't seem very... logical.


This made me laugh so much. I really hope these guys find teams, it would really be sad to see their level go down if they cannot get into the right environment/support fast enough. So many open players now @_@
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 11 2014 16:08 GMT
#93
On September 12 2014 01:01 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:23 Boucot wrote:
What do you think about the new WCS rules ?
There is good and bad things. I think they are fine for the foreign players and bad for the Koreans who play for a foreign team.

What are your plans for the next season ?
I would like to join a foreign team and compete in WCS North America or WCS Europe. I plan to leave South Korea and gain a visa to be part of one of those two tournaments.

That doesn't seem very... logical.


This made me laugh so much. I really hope these guys find teams, it would really be sad to see their level go down if they cannot get into the right environment/support fast enough. So many open players now @_@

I think PartinG meant the players that live in korea and fly out to a bunch of tournaments/WCS :p
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
September 11 2014 16:43 GMT
#94
On September 11 2014 23:33 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 22:51 Zealously wrote:
On September 11 2014 22:42 Thax wrote:
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


Wow look at that list of names who will never reach Code S again. Everyone knows foreign Koreans can't compete in Korea. Failures looking for easy foreign money.


This comment is pretty hilarious given how tournaments have looked for the last few months. Flash struggling against MC and Stardust? Check. Solar and Zest both losing to Taeja? Check. San beating Byul into the ground? Check. DRG making the Ro8? Check.

I'd never say that you don't know what you're talking about, but it certainly looks that way.



How bored are you that you answered to a post, that called Rain a failure looking for easy foreign money?


Although I might not agree with everything he said; I'm afraid he has a point when it comes to the decline of skill. I can imagine that departing from korea will open a few new doors but close some others. :-/ Right now the only Koreans that maintained their skill were Hyun, Taeja and Polt. And MC.
We'll see what happens...
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
September 11 2014 17:01 GMT
#95
WCS 2015: All kespa players leave Korea, in search of that sweet easy foreign money. WCS EU and AM both become as hard as GSL and all foreigners are eliminated immediately. Round of 8 WCS EU: Hydra, Solar, Cure, DRG, Zest, Rain, Parting, MC. WCS AM: soO, Stats, Innovation, TRUE, Maru, sOs, Soulkey, Flash. Meanwhile, only mediocre washouts are left in Korea. Now that GSL is so much less competitive, State, who has still been toiling away in the Prime house makes his first GSL. He becomes the first foreigner to win GSL, royal roading through such titans like SalvatioN, Miso, BrAvO, PenguiN, AnNyeong, and Zoun, before meeting MKP in the finals. He beats MKP so badly that he cries (as expected). However, no one gives his win any weight, as he was too much of a 'coward' to play in the REAL SC2 leagues, WCS AM and EU.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 11 2014 17:06 GMT
#96
On September 12 2014 02:01 Darthsanta13 wrote:
WCS 2015: All kespa players leave Korea, in search of that sweet easy foreign money. WCS EU and AM both become as hard as GSL and all foreigners are eliminated immediately. Round of 8 WCS EU: Hydra, Solar, Cure, DRG, Zest, Rain, Parting, MC. WCS AM: soO, Stats, Innovation, TRUE, Maru, sOs, Soulkey, Flash. Meanwhile, only mediocre washouts are left in Korea. Now that GSL is so much less competitive, State, who has still been toiling away in the Prime house makes his first GSL. He becomes the first foreigner to win GSL, royal roading through such titans like SalvatioN, Miso, BrAvO, PenguiN, AnNyeong, and Zoun, before meeting MKP in the finals. He beats MKP so badly that he cries (as expected). However, no one gives his win any weight, as he was too much of a 'coward' to play in the REAL SC2 leagues, WCS AM and EU.

I want 100% of this to happen. Please. That would show us all something.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 11 2014 17:16 GMT
#97
On September 12 2014 02:01 Darthsanta13 wrote:
WCS 2015: All kespa players leave Korea, in search of that sweet easy foreign money. WCS EU and AM both become as hard as GSL and all foreigners are eliminated immediately. Round of 8 WCS EU: Hydra, Solar, Cure, DRG, Zest, Rain, Parting, MC. WCS AM: soO, Stats, Innovation, TRUE, Maru, sOs, Soulkey, Flash. Meanwhile, only mediocre washouts are left in Korea. Now that GSL is so much less competitive, State, who has still been toiling away in the Prime house makes his first GSL. He becomes the first foreigner to win GSL, royal roading through such titans like SalvatioN, Miso, BrAvO, PenguiN, AnNyeong, and Zoun, before meeting MKP in the finals. He beats MKP so badly that he cries (as expected). However, no one gives his win any weight, as he was too much of a 'coward' to play in the REAL SC2 leagues, WCS AM and EU.

Amazing
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 11 2014 17:28 GMT
#98
So many moves. I hope there'll be some influx as well -- SPL got just a lot weaker today.
The heart's eternal vow
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 11 2014 17:42 GMT
#99
Madness, it just keeps rolling. I loved Hydra on CJ Fighting!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3436 Posts
September 11 2014 17:44 GMT
#100
No!
jesus christ not hydra! he s so handsome!
Horang2 fan
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft175
SortOf 145
ProTech120
FoxeR 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 2248
Sea 1383
actioN 291
Larva 190
Shine 119
Leta 75
Hm[arnc] 52
GoRush 31
Pusan 18
Killer 18
[ Show more ]
Sharp 16
Backho 15
Dota 2
XaKoH 324
NeuroSwarm138
League of Legends
JimRising 404
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss563
kRYSTAL_18
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King165
Other Games
gofns12961
summit1g6783
Liquid`RaSZi474
C9.Mang0474
ceh9399
Happy217
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick915
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 53
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos650
• Stunt573
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 34m
KCM Race Survival
1h 34m
LiuLi Cup
2h 34m
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
15h 34m
Online Event
1d 1h
LiuLi Cup
1d 2h
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
1d 8h
Serral vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.