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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 22:48:52
September 11 2014 22:48 GMT
#121
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
September 11 2014 23:00 GMT
#122
On September 12 2014 05:22 geokilla wrote:
First SKT. Now CJ. KT next? WCS 2015 having a huge effect already.

Action and Hitman will be next I think.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 11 2014 23:19 GMT
#123
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa

Blizzard never said what they intended to happen
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
September 11 2014 23:43 GMT
#124
i think looking for foreign teams is a good thing, provided there are enough foreign teams who can take korean talent on and provided the korean player helps out the team acting as a new 'practice partner'.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
September 11 2014 23:47 GMT
#125
Hydra being very optimistic here
Trap won an MLG and is still teamless
I don't know if people have been telling him stories about foreign land or if this is just him going yolo before military service
...
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 11 2014 23:49 GMT
#126
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 12 2014 00:13 GMT
#127
On September 12 2014 07:22 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 02:45 Ej_ wrote:
On September 12 2014 02:01 Darthsanta13 wrote:
WCS 2015: All kespa players leave Korea, in search of that sweet easy foreign money. WCS EU and AM both become as hard as GSL and all foreigners are eliminated immediately. Round of 8 WCS EU: Hydra, Solar, Cure, DRG, Zest, Rain, Parting, MC. WCS AM: soO, Stats, Innovation, TRUE, Maru, sOs, Soulkey, Flash. Meanwhile, only mediocre washouts are left in Korea. Now that GSL is so much less competitive, State, who has still been toiling away in the Prime house makes his first GSL. He becomes the first foreigner to win GSL, royal roading through such titans like SalvatioN, Miso, BrAvO, PenguiN, AnNyeong, and Zoun, before meeting MKP in the finals. He beats MKP so badly that he cries (as expected). However, no one gives his win any weight, as he was too much of a 'coward' to play in the REAL SC2 leagues, WCS AM and EU.

you are a poet

Alternate ending:

soO stays behind in GSL to finally win now that all the good protosses are gone. Still loses to State in the finals.


Thus confirming his statement that all wcs regions are equal and a new age of harmony and peace is seen in the SC2 community..

Except twitch chat..

We still don't talk about twitch chat.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2721 Posts
September 12 2014 00:31 GMT
#128
On September 12 2014 08:49 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.

A happened. Then B happened a few days after. A must have caused B, no matter how ridiculous the logic is XD
very illegal and very uncool
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 12 2014 00:40 GMT
#129
On September 12 2014 09:31 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 08:49 Saechiis wrote:
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.

A happened. Then B happened a few days after. A must have caused B, no matter how ridiculous the logic is XD

Post hoc ergo propter hoc!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2014 00:46 GMT
#130
On September 12 2014 09:40 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:31 argonautdice wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:49 Saechiis wrote:
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.

A happened. Then B happened a few days after. A must have caused B, no matter how ridiculous the logic is XD

Post hoc ergo propter hoc!

Someone watches the West Wing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 12 2014 00:51 GMT
#131
On September 12 2014 09:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:40 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:31 argonautdice wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:49 Saechiis wrote:
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.

A happened. Then B happened a few days after. A must have caused B, no matter how ridiculous the logic is XD

Post hoc ergo propter hoc!

Someone watches the West Wing.

How did you know? :D
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3769 Posts
September 12 2014 05:59 GMT
#132
On September 12 2014 09:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:40 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:31 argonautdice wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:49 Saechiis wrote:
On September 12 2014 07:48 negativedge wrote:
I like how region locking is having the exact opposite of its intended effect

then again, most of these players won't even find foreign teams to play on. and certainly they won't find foreign teams willing to pay them a salary commensurate with what they were making in kespa


What makes you think region lock has anything to do with it? Their contracts are just expiring around this time. It doesn't make sense to say Kespa pro's are leaving their teams because it's become harder to play abroad. If anyhting it suggests they've been planning on leaving for a while and haven't changed their minds with the WCS changes.

A happened. Then B happened a few days after. A must have caused B, no matter how ridiculous the logic is XD

Post hoc ergo propter hoc!

Someone watches the West Wing.

Also big bang theory when they were coming back from Arctic?
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
September 12 2014 06:44 GMT
#133
what's with kespa pros leaving in pairs? hydra left along with effort...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#134
On September 12 2014 15:44 Advantageous wrote:
what's with kespa pros leaving in pairs? hydra left along with effort...

We had a trio leave SKT
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HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
September 12 2014 17:14 GMT
#135
Meanwhile, my homeboy INnoVation is going back to Kespa.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
September 13 2014 08:32 GMT
#136
I'm not sure for WHY this is happening, perhaps it's good will, no judging..

BUT

I REAAAAAALLLLY hope that we get to see Proleague.. It's hands-down the best SC2 experience (when not being at work ) - at the highest level, and the games are the top-notch-best-possible quality..

Save Proleague
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
September 14 2014 03:24 GMT
#137
I can understand that they all want to experience travel to foreign countries and what not, but all these sudden leavers are being wildly optimistic if they believe this is actually a better choice for their progaming careers. Winning bunches of foreign tournaments is NOT as easy as it sounds. Even the machine INnoVation didn't win any, despite coming close several times.
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