• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:53
CEST 13:53
KST 20:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon107
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Recent Patches and the Future Stellar Fest 1 Replay Pack Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ] ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach BW General Discussion PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
All you football fans (soccer)! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9881 users

Hydra leaves CJ Entus to join a foreign team and WCS NA or…

Forum Index > SC2 General
136 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
September 11 2014 10:59 GMT
#41
dafuq is going on, why they all want to leave KeSPA?

also what will happen to the Kespa teams, do they still have that drafting thing they shouwed in State of play for newbie players?
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
September 11 2014 11:01 GMT
#42
I hope Hydra finds a good team and we still see him perform well...

I'm sad about CJ Entus losing him though.
(Sad about SKT too)
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Ograkk
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden22 Posts
September 11 2014 11:01 GMT
#43
Considering the very few LANs in NA and the quite high cost of flights between NA/EU Im guessing all of them are aiming towards EU if possible. The competition for easy Dreamhack/Fragbite/HSC etc money just went almost full Code S.
And Im really wondering if they made proper research or if MC/First/Yoda/Stardust told them it´s the Promised Lands. Im pretty sure we´ll see quite a few of these turn into a new Dear.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12888 Posts
September 11 2014 11:03 GMT
#44
Liquid hydra has a really good ring to it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 11 2014 11:09 GMT
#45
On September 11 2014 19:52 Trasko wrote:
Are there even enough foreign teams to holster all of these Koreans..


Nope.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Tngabor
Profile Joined December 2013
Serbia60 Posts
September 11 2014 11:10 GMT
#46
oh Dear...
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 11 2014 11:12 GMT
#47
On September 11 2014 19:59 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
dafuq is going on, why they all want to leave KeSPA?

also what will happen to the Kespa teams, do they still have that drafting thing they shouwed in State of play for newbie players?


I'm wondering this too.

I've also been think that there are so many good teamless Korean players right now that if they can't find a home then KeSPA might have to go down the whole 8th Team route they had to do after MBCGame HERO, WeMade FOX and Hwaseung Oz all disbanded and see if they can land it a new big sponsor.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
September 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#48
Another one?
I'm afraid that 'foreign team' is a euphemism for 'retire'.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#49
With all these Kespa Superstars being released and wanting to play abroad you could potentially as a team buy yourself a ticket to a WCS EU or AM final right now.
Time for foreign Teams to invest!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#50
The problem is that there's a lot of teamless korean. Also Pigbaby and Trap (that won WCS Am and MLG) haven't found a team. GL to Hydra
Vasacast always in my <3
pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
September 11 2014 11:30 GMT
#51
What a good timing for all these players leaving Kespa now that WCS region lock is in place.

Oh well getting a visa in EU is probably easier, however if everyone goes to EU, next season WCS EU would be significantly more challenging. Unless they can go to NA, with a harder route.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27412 Posts
September 11 2014 11:31 GMT
#52
I'm pretty sure some of these guys just want a change of environment, especially the ones who have been in the Kespa system for years.

A year of trying your luck in foreign tournaments for a last payday before going for the army might be a motivation for some of them as well.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
September 11 2014 11:32 GMT
#53
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


I think the wise move for fantasy is to go to a lesser team that is looking for a terran to play in pro league
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
September 11 2014 11:33 GMT
#54
Gl Hydra !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Tyeshoo
Profile Joined July 2014
Ukraine11 Posts
September 11 2014 11:37 GMT
#55
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 11:43:35
September 11 2014 11:38 GMT
#56
On September 11 2014 19:21 Scarecrow wrote:
Isn't that title completely misleading? He actually says the rules are bad for koreans on foreign teams but he wants to discover new experiences outside of kespa regardless.


they want visas to come along with it when they join for that easy money. I have a feeling some broken promises will be made.

On September 11 2014 20:37 Tyeshoo wrote:
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?

Travel around the world; chance to participate in easier qualifiers; make more prize money. Only prob is when a lot of them do it and do get their visas. Hellllllo qualifiers.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 11 2014 11:43 GMT
#57
On September 11 2014 20:37 Tyeshoo wrote:
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?

Aren't you jealous if you can attend tournaments in (inclusive seeing cities like) Valencia, Paris, Los Angeles, New York, Rio de Janeiro, Toronto, Stockholm etc?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 11 2014 11:45 GMT
#58
On September 11 2014 19:59 Quateras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:
Looks like they heard too many fairy tales before going to bed.


This so much, are they really that naive, after seeing what happened with Genius, Dear and Co?


I doubt they will do the proper research before joining some putz team.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
September 11 2014 11:46 GMT
#59
Seems like Kespa teams are somewhere the insiders want out, and the outsiders want in
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
September 11 2014 11:47 GMT
#60
let's try to think of an optimistic scenario:

1. top level kespa players leave for the glorious foreign land
2. few of them get a prestigeous foreign team soon (EG, Liquid, Acer, perhaps Ai)
3. few of them get a noname team a bit later (planetkey, meltdown, NRS...)
4. if they make a flat share even noname-team salary + online cup winnings or only savings + winnings could be enough to live - at least in europe (not on hight standards, but kespa players should be used to little place and those players are searching the adventure, not the money or comfort - at least, if they're saying the truth)
5. with these players not in kespa-teams anymore, free agents in korea have a good chance to get hired by kespa teams again, bringing their experience in and getting exposure
6. koreans living in europe and NA will raise the skill-level in these regions while in korea new players have to be grown to the top level - so the korean-foreign skillgap could become a bit smaller
7. ?
8. profit
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro8 Match 4
Leta vs Soulkey
Afreeca ASL 7116
StarCastTV_EN82
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #148 (SHIN Mod Edition)
herO vs KrystianerLIVE!
TBD vs Percival
CranKy Ducklings126
CranKy Ducklings SOOP38
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko338
ProTech123
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 5216
Jaedong 2490
EffOrt 1214
actioN 892
BeSt 574
Killer 542
Horang2 482
Soma 465
Pusan 206
Stork 202
[ Show more ]
Zeus 141
Rush 132
Mini 114
Barracks 108
Snow 85
JYJ 82
Mong 59
Light 56
HiyA 42
Sea.KH 40
ToSsGirL 37
Larva 33
ggaemo 30
Shinee 29
Bale 29
Sharp 22
hero 21
Sexy 21
sorry 20
Noble 11
zelot 11
JulyZerg 10
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
Gorgc5634
Dendi576
XaKoH 376
League of Legends
Reynor64
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_54
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes2849
Other Games
gofns65255
singsing1531
olofmeister1190
byalli543
Livibee196
OGKoka 96
B2W.Neo86
ArmadaUGS53
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV364
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream312
Other Games
BasetradeTV213
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 68
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV118
League of Legends
• Jankos1791
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
12h 7m
Kung Fu Cup
23h 7m
The PondCast
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
3 days
FEL
4 days
AI Arena Tournament
4 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.