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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
September 11 2014 10:59 GMT
#41
dafuq is going on, why they all want to leave KeSPA?

also what will happen to the Kespa teams, do they still have that drafting thing they shouwed in State of play for newbie players?
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
September 11 2014 11:01 GMT
#42
I hope Hydra finds a good team and we still see him perform well...

I'm sad about CJ Entus losing him though.
(Sad about SKT too)
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Ograkk
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden22 Posts
September 11 2014 11:01 GMT
#43
Considering the very few LANs in NA and the quite high cost of flights between NA/EU Im guessing all of them are aiming towards EU if possible. The competition for easy Dreamhack/Fragbite/HSC etc money just went almost full Code S.
And Im really wondering if they made proper research or if MC/First/Yoda/Stardust told them it´s the Promised Lands. Im pretty sure we´ll see quite a few of these turn into a new Dear.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
September 11 2014 11:03 GMT
#44
Liquid hydra has a really good ring to it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 11 2014 11:09 GMT
#45
On September 11 2014 19:52 Trasko wrote:
Are there even enough foreign teams to holster all of these Koreans..


Nope.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Tngabor
Profile Joined December 2013
Serbia60 Posts
September 11 2014 11:10 GMT
#46
oh Dear...
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 11 2014 11:12 GMT
#47
On September 11 2014 19:59 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
dafuq is going on, why they all want to leave KeSPA?

also what will happen to the Kespa teams, do they still have that drafting thing they shouwed in State of play for newbie players?


I'm wondering this too.

I've also been think that there are so many good teamless Korean players right now that if they can't find a home then KeSPA might have to go down the whole 8th Team route they had to do after MBCGame HERO, WeMade FOX and Hwaseung Oz all disbanded and see if they can land it a new big sponsor.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3395 Posts
September 11 2014 11:16 GMT
#48
Another one?
I'm afraid that 'foreign team' is a euphemism for 'retire'.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
September 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#49
With all these Kespa Superstars being released and wanting to play abroad you could potentially as a team buy yourself a ticket to a WCS EU or AM final right now.
Time for foreign Teams to invest!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 11 2014 11:20 GMT
#50
The problem is that there's a lot of teamless korean. Also Pigbaby and Trap (that won WCS Am and MLG) haven't found a team. GL to Hydra
Vasacast always in my <3
pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
September 11 2014 11:30 GMT
#51
What a good timing for all these players leaving Kespa now that WCS region lock is in place.

Oh well getting a visa in EU is probably easier, however if everyone goes to EU, next season WCS EU would be significantly more challenging. Unless they can go to NA, with a harder route.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26542 Posts
September 11 2014 11:31 GMT
#52
I'm pretty sure some of these guys just want a change of environment, especially the ones who have been in the Kespa system for years.

A year of trying your luck in foreign tournaments for a last payday before going for the army might be a motivation for some of them as well.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
September 11 2014 11:32 GMT
#53
On September 11 2014 19:27 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
I just don't get why are they all leaving before LotV comes in.

So, considering that TRUE is technically in Dead Pixels, we now have:

DRG
Rain
PartinG
FanTaSy
Hydra

4 Code S playoffs level guys and FanTaSy, who can really get them, lol.
+ There is Myungsik who left KT Rolster as well.

TL won't get anyone until TJ retires most likely, Acer will get probably one and outside of those two, noone really seems legit contender.
YOE FLASH WOLVES FOR THE RESCUE PLEASE.

On less serious note, i hope they're still going to play in SPL.


I think the wise move for fantasy is to go to a lesser team that is looking for a terran to play in pro league
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
September 11 2014 11:33 GMT
#54
Gl Hydra !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Tyeshoo
Profile Joined July 2014
Ukraine11 Posts
September 11 2014 11:37 GMT
#55
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 11:43:35
September 11 2014 11:38 GMT
#56
On September 11 2014 19:21 Scarecrow wrote:
Isn't that title completely misleading? He actually says the rules are bad for koreans on foreign teams but he wants to discover new experiences outside of kespa regardless.


they want visas to come along with it when they join for that easy money. I have a feeling some broken promises will be made.

On September 11 2014 20:37 Tyeshoo wrote:
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?

Travel around the world; chance to participate in easier qualifiers; make more prize money. Only prob is when a lot of them do it and do get their visas. Hellllllo qualifiers.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 11 2014 11:43 GMT
#57
On September 11 2014 20:37 Tyeshoo wrote:
i dont get this. SC2 is mostly well supported just in Korea. Why do the leave from Korea?

Aren't you jealous if you can attend tournaments in (inclusive seeing cities like) Valencia, Paris, Los Angeles, New York, Rio de Janeiro, Toronto, Stockholm etc?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 11 2014 11:45 GMT
#58
On September 11 2014 19:59 Quateras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 19:55 Nerchio wrote:
Looks like they heard too many fairy tales before going to bed.


This so much, are they really that naive, after seeing what happened with Genius, Dear and Co?


I doubt they will do the proper research before joining some putz team.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
September 11 2014 11:46 GMT
#59
Seems like Kespa teams are somewhere the insiders want out, and the outsiders want in
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
September 11 2014 11:47 GMT
#60
let's try to think of an optimistic scenario:

1. top level kespa players leave for the glorious foreign land
2. few of them get a prestigeous foreign team soon (EG, Liquid, Acer, perhaps Ai)
3. few of them get a noname team a bit later (planetkey, meltdown, NRS...)
4. if they make a flat share even noname-team salary + online cup winnings or only savings + winnings could be enough to live - at least in europe (not on hight standards, but kespa players should be used to little place and those players are searching the adventure, not the money or comfort - at least, if they're saying the truth)
5. with these players not in kespa-teams anymore, free agents in korea have a good chance to get hired by kespa teams again, bringing their experience in and getting exposure
6. koreans living in europe and NA will raise the skill-level in these regions while in korea new players have to be grown to the top level - so the korean-foreign skillgap could become a bit smaller
7. ?
8. profit
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
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