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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:00:42
August 20 2014 21:00 GMT
#101
On August 21 2014 05:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:55 TheDwf wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:26 triforks wrote:
TaeJa - Check
Weekend - Check
10k Prize - Check

Yep everyone knows how this is gonna unfold. Move along folks.

Edit:

Did some research. Our boy has won 9/10 tournaments entered that have a first place prize of 10k. And he's also on a 7 win spree with no losses between in 10k tournaments.

Half-dead wrists - Check
Zest looking for revenge - Check
0-2'ed by Action in the last stacked tournament - Check

Yeah, move along. It's not looking good this time. ;p


It's like you all think Action is some random 2 bit zerg.

No. But there will be even worse (I mean stronger opponents) in that IEM.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 20 2014 21:01 GMT
#102
On August 21 2014 05:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:51 Squat wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.


Both Hyun and MC have both gotten almost enough points from the WCS circuit alone to qualify for Blizzcon. Even with no invites at all they would be at Blizzcon.


I'd like to see them prove it then. A tournament should not give WCS points if there are any invites at all.

WCS points should be the sole province of WCS itself and fully open tournaments, no invites or regional qualifiers. Korea should have double or triple the amount of points, and money, compared to other regions, a GSL Ro8 is easily as hard or harder than winning a mostly foreigner Lan.

Then, we can put a hard region lock in place because Korea will actually be worthwhile for Koreans. Boom, everybody wins, we get the best players at blizzcon, no one gets any freebies from invites, and the local NA and EU players actually have something realistic to play for.


If I know my Korean organizers and I think I do My bet is they take that extra money and put it all in first place -_-

Add provisions, have hard rules for how points and money are awarded. These things can be regulated.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 20 2014 21:03 GMT
#103
On August 21 2014 06:01 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:56 stuchiu wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:51 Squat wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.


Both Hyun and MC have both gotten almost enough points from the WCS circuit alone to qualify for Blizzcon. Even with no invites at all they would be at Blizzcon.


I'd like to see them prove it then. A tournament should not give WCS points if there are any invites at all.

WCS points should be the sole province of WCS itself and fully open tournaments, no invites or regional qualifiers. Korea should have double or triple the amount of points, and money, compared to other regions, a GSL Ro8 is easily as hard or harder than winning a mostly foreigner Lan.

Then, we can put a hard region lock in place because Korea will actually be worthwhile for Koreans. Boom, everybody wins, we get the best players at blizzcon, no one gets any freebies from invites, and the local NA and EU players actually have something realistic to play for.


If I know my Korean organizers and I think I do My bet is they take that extra money and put it all in first place -_-

Add provisions, have hard rules for how points and money are awarded. These things can be regulated.


Last time they did that OSL quit and MLG quit.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 20 2014 21:08 GMT
#104
On August 21 2014 06:03 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 06:01 Squat wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:56 stuchiu wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:51 Squat wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 05:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.


Both Hyun and MC have both gotten almost enough points from the WCS circuit alone to qualify for Blizzcon. Even with no invites at all they would be at Blizzcon.


I'd like to see them prove it then. A tournament should not give WCS points if there are any invites at all.

WCS points should be the sole province of WCS itself and fully open tournaments, no invites or regional qualifiers. Korea should have double or triple the amount of points, and money, compared to other regions, a GSL Ro8 is easily as hard or harder than winning a mostly foreigner Lan.

Then, we can put a hard region lock in place because Korea will actually be worthwhile for Koreans. Boom, everybody wins, we get the best players at blizzcon, no one gets any freebies from invites, and the local NA and EU players actually have something realistic to play for.


If I know my Korean organizers and I think I do My bet is they take that extra money and put it all in first place -_-

Add provisions, have hard rules for how points and money are awarded. These things can be regulated.


Last time they did that OSL quit and MLG quit.

MLG quit for different reasons too. Are we really worried about Kespa dumping Sc2 if blizz gave them more points and money, but with certain provisions? That strikes me as a very dubious proposition. It's worth exploring at least.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 20 2014 21:10 GMT
#105
group a & d
:O
Moderatorlickypiddy
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 20 2014 21:14 GMT
#106
On August 21 2014 06:00 vult wrote:
Still dunno why they consider it an "Open Bracket" when it is only open to like 16 players.

it's open cause anyone can sign up, then they select 16 players
http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/open-bracket-sign-ups-for-toronto-open-now/
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helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
August 20 2014 21:20 GMT
#107
Ugh. Not enough good foreigners to interest me. I can watch GSL and proleague to see the best koreans duke it out. If you want more of that though this is looking pretty good.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
August 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#108
On August 21 2014 06:14 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 06:00 vult wrote:
Still dunno why they consider it an "Open Bracket" when it is only open to like 16 players.

it's open cause anyone can sign up, then they select 16 players
http://en.intelextrememasters.com/news/open-bracket-sign-ups-for-toronto-open-now/


I signed up
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#109
Cmon Snute!!!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 20 2014 21:30 GMT
#110
If I can see Scarlett beating Flash on my new Acer laptop, every bad thing that has happened over the course of my summer, as well as my inability to go to the WCS America Ro16 groups because of school starting, will be instantly wiped away.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
August 20 2014 21:33 GMT
#111
this line up is so sick

its christmas in august.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:39:45
August 20 2014 21:33 GMT
#112
Taeja has Jaedong, Hyun and Pigbaby in WCS America, Zest, Polt, (Maru maybe) in IEM Toronto, I want to see his group for Red Bull Battlegrounds Detroit. Any combination of Hyun Polt Bomber Jaedong?

Tournaments are giving him the hardest groups before he retires lol
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 20 2014 21:35 GMT
#113
On August 21 2014 06:20 helvete wrote:
Ugh. Not enough good foreigners to interest me. I can watch GSL and proleague to see the best koreans duke it out. If you want more of that though this is looking pretty good.


Scarlett, Bunny, Snute, Huk, pucK and the rest of Canada's best aren't good enough for you?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 20 2014 21:36 GMT
#114
I hope Masa's tvp is up to snuff... O.O
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 20 2014 21:42 GMT
#115
On August 21 2014 06:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 06:20 helvete wrote:
Ugh. Not enough good foreigners to interest me. I can watch GSL and proleague to see the best koreans duke it out. If you want more of that though this is looking pretty good.


Scarlett, Bunny, Snute, Huk, pucK and the rest of Canada's best aren't good enough for you?

i for one won't be satisfied until a tournament literally invites the top 16 aligulac foreigners, holds their hands on the planes, gives them free lollipops and writes them poems about how good and special they are for being from countries other than korea
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Nebulem
Profile Joined May 2014
71 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:46:52
August 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#116
Taeja is going to face the highest challenge of his career with both his Wcs and IEM groups. Hope he will be fine enough. I would not want to be in his head, he will probably be the most followed player during the next couple of days.
t.(-.-)z
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 20 2014 21:48 GMT
#117
On August 21 2014 06:46 Nebulem wrote:
Taeja is going to face the highest challenge of his career with both his Wcs and IEM groups. Hope he will be fine enough. I would not want to be in his head, he will probably be the most followed player during the next couple of days.

taeja 3-0ed zest a month ago and he's played polt plenty of times before
TL+ Member
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 20 2014 21:52 GMT
#118
Curious if Maru will do better this time.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 20 2014 21:57 GMT
#119
On August 21 2014 06:48 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 06:46 Nebulem wrote:
Taeja is going to face the highest challenge of his career with both his Wcs and IEM groups. Hope he will be fine enough. I would not want to be in his head, he will probably be the most followed player during the next couple of days.

taeja 3-0ed zest a month ago and he's played polt plenty of times before


Well the 3-0 series against Zest honestly looked more like an accident for Zest than a feat from Taeja. This revenge series will probably give us a good idea of how right or wrong this impression is.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:58:25
August 20 2014 21:57 GMT
#120
On August 21 2014 06:20 helvete wrote:
Ugh. Not enough good foreigners to interest me. I can watch GSL and proleague to see the best koreans duke it out. If you want more of that though this is looking pretty good.


dont worry bout it, we should get another foreigner in top 4 for SURE

recently we had Jim top 4 (tied for 3rd?) in IEM Shenzen

and before that in another IEM we had TLO in top 4

no other foreigners besides those 2 (and Naniwa) got top 4 in any IEM in all of HOTS, but we will get a foreigner in top 4 IEM Toronto FOR SURE, maybe even win the whole thing which TLO, Jim and Naniwa couldnt do
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