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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
August 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#61
Group A is the group of death lol... Taeja Polt and Zest... those three alone could make a tournament...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 20 2014 18:35 GMT
#62
One of the most stacked if not the most stacked tournament of recent memory. Kudos IEM, really excited for this one.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 18:44:10
August 20 2014 18:43 GMT
#63
Sheet... Flash and Taeja on the same tourney, who i should cheer?
:3
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
August 20 2014 18:46 GMT
#64
So cool Flash will be there!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#65
On August 21 2014 03:05 Soke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 02:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:06 lichter wrote:
Flash will lose to a foreigner, calling it now


That seems... highly unlikely. He won't lose to Scarlett and how many foreigners are getting out of the first group stage?


mmm idk. Scarlett can be freakishly good when she's on her game and it wouldn't be surprising if Flash can't replicate his scary current form into a foreign tournament. It's happened before after all.


With the way Scarlett's ZvT has fallen off since the patch... maybe but I'm not holding by breath. She can beat MC though and almost anyone to come out of the open bracket if she's on her A game.

The way her ZvT has fallen off? There really is not much of a sample. She also has a tendency to perform much better offline :D. I am not saying she WILL beat Flash, but she definitely has a shot. Pre Patch, I would say they were even, Post patch I would give Flash a slight advantage o.o


Slight advantage?! I'm a HUGE Scarlett fan but dude she's gonna get rekt no question about it. If she can't beat Heart, Bunny or Masa you think Scarlett has a chance against FUCKING FLASH?!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
effecto
Profile Joined February 2011
France142 Posts
August 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#66
Cannot wait to watch this!
Design - eddytritten.com
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
August 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#67
Oh yes, Scarlett Flash MC looks amazing :D
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
August 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#68
On August 21 2014 03:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:05 Soke wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 02:06 lichter wrote:
Flash will lose to a foreigner, calling it now


That seems... highly unlikely. He won't lose to Scarlett and how many foreigners are getting out of the first group stage?


mmm idk. Scarlett can be freakishly good when she's on her game and it wouldn't be surprising if Flash can't replicate his scary current form into a foreign tournament. It's happened before after all.


With the way Scarlett's ZvT has fallen off since the patch... maybe but I'm not holding by breath. She can beat MC though and almost anyone to come out of the open bracket if she's on her A game.

The way her ZvT has fallen off? There really is not much of a sample. She also has a tendency to perform much better offline :D. I am not saying she WILL beat Flash, but she definitely has a shot. Pre Patch, I would say they were even, Post patch I would give Flash a slight advantage o.o


Slight advantage?! I'm a HUGE Scarlett fan but dude she's gonna get rekt no question about it. If she can't beat Heart, Bunny or Masa you think Scarlett has a chance against FUCKING FLASH?!


Shortly after writing this message SetGuitarsToKill spontaneously combusted.
why?
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
August 20 2014 19:00 GMT
#69
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 20 2014 19:14 GMT
#70
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
dark1882
Profile Joined October 2012
Ireland529 Posts
August 20 2014 19:18 GMT
#71
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.

and are dependable. and put on good showings. and bring some fun to the tourney. Face it there are few tournaments that aren't going to invite two of the most popular players who tournament organisers can fall back on if any of the special guests they have in mind refuse the invite. The reputation for being travelers is almost as good for them for getting invites as there wcs seeding and popularity.
forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
August 20 2014 19:29 GMT
#72
i don't get why americas get 3 slots and asia only 2.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 20 2014 19:29 GMT
#73
On August 21 2014 04:29 esdf wrote:
i don't get why americas get 3 slots and asia only 2.


Because Toronto isn't in Asia.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 20 2014 19:31 GMT
#74
I regret even more being unable to attend this.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 20 2014 19:33 GMT
#75
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking

Nice "rich get richer" system right there. /:
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 20 2014 19:35 GMT
#76
foreign runner MC and hyun will get stomped

Scarlett will win group D
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
August 20 2014 19:40 GMT
#77
hoping to see flash vs jaedong finals~
0.0000000001% happening... we might see a miracle here
-
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
August 20 2014 19:43 GMT
#78
On August 21 2014 04:18 dark1882 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.

and are dependable. and put on good showings. and bring some fun to the tourney. Face it there are few tournaments that aren't going to invite two of the most popular players who tournament organisers can fall back on if any of the special guests they have in mind refuse the invite. The reputation for being travelers is almost as good for them for getting invites as there wcs seeding and popularity.


Not to mention that they both are monstrously good players.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
siriuschw
Profile Joined December 2013
Chile19 Posts
August 20 2014 19:47 GMT
#79
If Taeja wins this... oh boy...

Well, a fan can dream.
ad astra per aspera
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 20 2014 19:49 GMT
#80
On August 21 2014 04:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 04:00 messioso wrote:
On August 21 2014 03:03 RKC wrote:
How were the wild cards chosen? It just seems strange, almost unfair, that Zest and Flash has to fight through some gruelling dual qualifiers at the Asian level (they should have more representation, i feel), and the wild cards get a 'free ticket' straight into the group play (I would understand if they simply got into the open brackets). It's quite a bummer to those Koreans who participated at the qualifiers, but didn't make the cut.

Since it's fan favourites getting the wild cards, I suppose I see the commercial reasoning.


TaeJa won IEM Shenzhen so we invited him to defend his "title".
sOs was sent by KeSPA as Proleague Round 4 MVP
HyuN was #1 on WCS ranking
MC was #2 on WCS ranking


Inviting based on WCS ranking is such crap. I can't stand it. It's a self fulfilling thing; MC and Hyun get lots of points because they get invited to everything and they get invited to everything because they have a lot of points.

invited players don't earn any WCS points if they don't at least advance 1 round
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