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KeSPA will not send players to WEC

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Official KeSPA statement added to OP
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 00:35:12
August 06 2014 08:55 GMT
#1
So that incredibly stacked World e-Sports Championship Korean qualifier (here)may not be true after all. Wolf tweeted:



More discussion took place on Reddit here and here.
Chuddinater, who works for KeSPA, stated that the organizers of WEC had never actually contacted the teams or players in the first place, and had simply released the bracket hoping they would show up. A translated post from the NeoTV forums had a different story: in it the tournament organizer claimed that the teams had originally agreed to play in the tournament, then later backed out after KeSPA expressed concerns about the legitimacy and funding of the tournament.
Either way, at this point it seems unlikely that KeSPA players will be participating... but in the grand tradition of eSports, everyone is now trying to figure out whos fault it is.




lichter's edit: According to our sources, there was no agreement between KeSPA and WEC on which players were participating. However, they are currently negotiating who to send, if they can come to an agreement. But the current list is wrong, so wait for more news. I have renamed the thread to reflect this.

More:
On August 06 2014 20:12 digmouse wrote:
A message from xiaose, well-known Chinese Starcraft caster and organizer presentative for WEC Starcraft event, who asked me to relay the message to Teamliquid and r/starcraft:

"I‘m the caster who is in charge of arranging the player list, there is no reason for me to 'fake a roster and wait for the players to come', I do have all the confirmations from the participating teams and players, thus I submitted the roster. The organizer did sent email to KeSPA and confirmed that it is a Blizzard sanctioned event but KeSPA ultimately ignored it, and furthermore notify that their teams will not be playing. I understand KeSPA's concerns, but please pay respect to the truth, don't lie, don't try to escape responsibility. All in all, I am only a caster and an avid Starcraft player, all I want is great Starcraft games, I don't have any personal gain in this."

EDIT: also on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2cra3z/kespa_killing_esports/cjiek5d


mod edit #2: Official statement from KeSPA added.
On August 07 2014 09:23 Chuddinater wrote:
A lineup was released yesterday for the World E-Sport Championships (WEC) Korean qualifiers that listed many of our players. Fans were excited to see the top players in the world compete and there was a lot of disappointment. I would like to give the fans some insight into the situation.

Yesterday I posted that WEC did not contact teams or KeSPA, which I admit was not the best words to use. WEC contacted us once requesting players and we responded by asking for more information regarding the tournament and communication broke down from there. They never sent us the requested information and we never came to an agreement to send players. We never agreed to send players and their list was false.

We investigated WEC ourselves with the help of the IeSF, International e-Sports Federation, and the China General Sports Administration, who is the governing body of e-Sports in China. Because of past Chinese tournaments KeSPA had made a policy to not take requests from tournaments in China unless they are recognized by the China General Sports Administration. WEC is not a recognized tournament in China, so we will not work with them. We made this policy in order to protect our players after past Chinese tournaments that failed to come through with what they had offered as well as our players having terrible conditions at the event. We cannot in good faith send our players to an event that we are unsure of their finances as well as the quality of the event.

Also KeSPA will not work with any tournament or organizer that will not go through proper channels and procedures. They decided to try and navigate around us and contacted the players directly. We will not work with an organization that will try to circumvent the procedures we have in place.

I know all of the fans were very excited to watch the WEC Korean qualifiers and I am sorry to have to disappoint you. However, in September the KeSPA Cup will be held with all the top KeSPA players and players around the World.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 06 2014 08:56 GMT
#2
that bracket looked so cool too hope this can be worked out.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 06 2014 08:59 GMT
#3
The qualifier seemed very strange, with people like Flash and most of SKT - players that don't typically participate in qualifiers - on the lineup. Too good to be true, I guess.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 10:06:56
August 06 2014 09:00 GMT
#4
So... If KeSPA players pull out then that leaves only (P)HerO, (P)San, (T)TaeJa, (T)INnoVation, (T)Bomber, (Z)HyuN, (Z)Revival, (Z)Leenock, and (Z)Jaedong...

HYPE level would die down instantly.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 06 2014 09:01 GMT
#5
Jaedong vs Flash hopes shattered.


Welp, at least no by them being knocked out.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 06 2014 09:02 GMT
#6
I'm sad that we won't see the most stacked bracket ever, with the Jaedong vs Flash potential, played out. But on the other hand it's good that KeSPA is looking out for the players.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
August 06 2014 09:02 GMT
#7
On August 06 2014 18:00 Seeker wrote:
So... If KeSPA players pull out then that leaves only (P)San, (T)TaeJa, (T)INnoVation, (T)Bomber, (Z)HyuN, (Z)Revival, (Z)Leenock, and (Z)Jaedong...

HYPE level would die down instantly.


And that's not even sure if the person that says "They did the bracket and hoped the players would connect" is right.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 06 2014 09:03 GMT
#8
The non-KeSPA lineup actully still doesn't look too bad, though we won't get a chance at Flash vs Jaedong.

Seems like one of the sides is lying since both acounts don't line up.
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Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 06 2014 09:04 GMT
#9
Damn, this was looking to be an amazing qualifier that probably deserved more hype than the actual main tournament itself. I'm definitely not seeing the full picture here, but this whole business seemed a bit odd from both sides.

If Kespa does indeed prohibit their players though, I would like to see some of the recently teamless koreans join the qualifiers. Especially Trap, and maybe even Journey.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
August 06 2014 09:08 GMT
#10
On August 06 2014 18:00 Seeker wrote:
So... If KeSPA players pull out then that leaves only (P)San, (T)TaeJa, (T)INnoVation, (T)Bomber, (Z)HyuN, (Z)Revival, (Z)Leenock, and (Z)Jaedong...

HYPE level would die down instantly.

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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 06 2014 09:09 GMT
#11
and then RBBG scheduling had another seizure as herO wished to rejoin?XD
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 06 2014 09:09 GMT
#12
Damn, and I was so hyped for a second.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 06 2014 09:10 GMT
#13
Kespa is cancer sometimes...
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 09:11:46
August 06 2014 09:11 GMT
#14
RIP Hype
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
August 06 2014 09:15 GMT
#15
Whaaat..... I was so hyped for this
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 06 2014 09:15 GMT
#16
Something here doesn't add up. This qualifier was the reason herO dropped out of Red Bull Global.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 06 2014 09:16 GMT
#17
On August 06 2014 18:00 Seeker wrote:
So... If KeSPA players pull out then that leaves only (P)San, (T)TaeJa, (T)INnoVation, (T)Bomber, (Z)HyuN, (Z)Revival, (Z)Leenock, and (Z)Jaedong...

HYPE level would die down instantly.

Well it's kinda like the top 8 of a reasonably large tournament....yay?
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 06 2014 09:16 GMT
#18
Legit concern by KeSPA considering some history of scam Chinese tourneys. And the fact that the organizer fails to provide official documents within 2 weeks is kinda laughable
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 06 2014 09:32 GMT
#19
in the grand tradition of eSports, everyone is now trying to figure out whos fault it is.


ROFl, so true <3
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 06 2014 09:36 GMT
#20
On August 06 2014 18:15 Circumstance wrote:
Something here doesn't add up. This qualifier was the reason herO dropped out of Red Bull Global.

and how would you know?
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