On August 08 2014 03:19 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 14:55 Jerubaal wrote:On August 07 2014 14:37 Arceus wrote:
I guess most people here dont like being controlled/regulated by any kind of school/government/organization/firm/parents. Your occupation must be CEO, president or something
These are esports tournaments, not financial markets. They don't need regulation. To most people here, Kespa seems to serve little purpose other than its own furtherance. Especially considering how they tried to squash SC2 in its infancy, then try to muscle out GOM and unaffiliated players and then appointed themselves esports czars.
About KeSPA trying to sabotage SC2 - Blizzard tried to kill off BW and they tried to bully KeSPA just before SC2 was released.
When Blizzard was like "switch to SC2 or pay money to broadcast BW", KeSPA reacted in kind.
The whole KeSPA vs SC2 thing was mainly due to Blizzard. Blizzard tried to bully KeSPA Into switching to SC2 (they didn't want to switch since BW was still popular) and then bully KeSPA into paying for broadcasting fees (which KeSPA eventually did have to do) - So them trying to sabotage SC2 was kind of understandable.
The thing with BW, SC2, KeSPA, and Blizzard was that KeSPA was doing BW tournaments for nearly a decade before SC2 came out.
Then as soon as SC2 was about to be released, Blizzard demanded payment from KeSPA and claimed that they were infringing copyright and profiting off of their game (which while true - you also have to consider KeSPA promoted their game which way more valuable than this "copyright infringement" Blizzard claims. BW sold 4-5 million copies in South Korea alone and while you can't attribute it all to KeSPA, you also can't deny that KeSPA helped with that either with the huge viewership numbers KeSPA tournaments brought to BW).
Plus what Blizzard asked was kind of silly too. Technically they could do that but it was still in bad taste.
Valve didn't go around and say you can't have CS 1.6 tournaments when CS:Source was released (likewise - They didn't go around and say you can't have CS 1.6 or CS:Source tournaments when CS:Global Offensive was released). Capcom didn't go around and say you can't broadcast SF2 tournaments anymore when SF4 was released.
And Valve didn't tell Icefrog to stop updating DotA on WC3 (DotA still gets updated on WC3 as, actually they even come before, Dota 2 updates are released) which is actually a huge deal too (hey if people still play DotA on WC3 - That means they can't buy cosmetics in Dota 2 - therefore less profit - Since Icefrog works for Valve now, Valve can just tell Icefrog to stop updating DotA on WC3 right? Nope, in fact Valve supports Icefrog with keeping DotA on WC3 up to date - If they like the game enough, they'll just switch over to Dota 2 when the time is right - Unlike Blizzard who is like "nope, you guys are going to switch to SC2 right now or we are going to sue you for broadcasting these BW tournaments without our authorization").
There are a lot of silliess with KeSPA but at least with KeSPA and SC2 (and Blizzard), I have to side with KeSPA on this one since Blizzard was the one who bullied KeSPA (they saw BW was a huge thing in South Korea - Wanted KeSPA to cooperate with them and do the same with SC2, then when they said no, they tried to bully them and shut down BW altogether).
Of course there is a lot of legit silliness with KeSPA (like the whole KeSPA players aren't allowed to participate in Code S after they switched over and it took eSF players not participating in OSL to convince KeSPA otherwise) but at least with KeSPA and SC2 (and Blizzard), I have to side with KeSPA on that one.
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