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Official KeSPA statement added to OP
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
August 06 2014 14:06 GMT
#61
Kespa power!!!JD leave EG plz.Back to Korea plz.
Kiev
suddendeathTV
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden388 Posts
August 06 2014 14:39 GMT
#62
inb4 the winner doesn't get paid and KeSPA was right all along.

KeSPA doesn't deny their players tournaments just to show muscle lol, this is to protect the players. I don't agree with the lying about the bracket though
Information is everything
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
August 06 2014 14:41 GMT
#63
On August 06 2014 23:39 sd_andeh wrote:
inb4 the winner doesn't get paid and KeSPA was right all along.

KeSPA doesn't deny their players tournaments just to show muscle lol, this is to protect the players. I don't agree with the lying about the bracket though

Protect from what?
Vasacast always in my <3
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
August 06 2014 14:46 GMT
#64
Whatever happens I hope it's sorted out quickly. The IEM Toronto qualifiers are on the same day which means the deadline for sign ups will be in the next couple of days. Would hate to have the players miss out on it because of this mess.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 06 2014 14:48 GMT
#65
On August 06 2014 23:06 Gamlet wrote:
Kespa power!!!JD leave EG plz.Back to Korea plz.


Then we'll never see him in another tournament. Is that what you really want?

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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 06 2014 14:55 GMT
#66
If KeSPA pulls their players out, this bracket is effectively neutered to oblivion.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 06 2014 14:57 GMT
#67
On August 06 2014 23:41 SuperHofmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 23:39 sd_andeh wrote:
inb4 the winner doesn't get paid and KeSPA was right all along.

KeSPA doesn't deny their players tournaments just to show muscle lol, this is to protect the players. I don't agree with the lying about the bracket though

Protect from what?


Sending their players to a questionable tournament where they might not get paid properly or on time or compensated for travel? When's the last time you've ever heard a Kespa player complain about tournaments not paying them? Non-kespa players on the other hand...
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
August 06 2014 14:59 GMT
#68
KeSPA killing Starcraft. Screw you.
Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
August 06 2014 15:00 GMT
#69
once again.. Jaedong... Jaedong everywhere...
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
August 06 2014 15:05 GMT
#70
On August 06 2014 23:57 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 23:41 SuperHofmann wrote:
On August 06 2014 23:39 sd_andeh wrote:
inb4 the winner doesn't get paid and KeSPA was right all along.

KeSPA doesn't deny their players tournaments just to show muscle lol, this is to protect the players. I don't agree with the lying about the bracket though

Protect from what?


Sending their players to a questionable tournament where they might not get paid properly or on time or compensated for travel? When's the last time you've ever heard a Kespa player complain about tournaments not paying them? Non-kespa players on the other hand...

But if they don't play any tourney they will naver paid... so it's the same lol
Vasacast always in my <3
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 06 2014 15:05 GMT
#71
the typical amount of hate and ignorance in this thread reflects how eSport is still a joke industry, at least in the west. Can you haters count how many players didnt get prize paid, screwed over every week? Whats so beneficial for your players to play in shady journey that cant even identify itself?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 06 2014 15:06 GMT
#72
People need to chill until we get more news, sheesh
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 15:07:59
August 06 2014 15:07 GMT
#73
So basically, half the players I didn't care about anyway dropped out, and everyone left is someone I'm a big fan of? Still looks like an awesome tournament to me! I'll definitely be watching it.
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Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
August 06 2014 15:10 GMT
#74
I highly doubt the current KeSPA would be doing this out of greed or spite. They wouldn't show off their power over the players this way, it makes little sense. Certainly lying about the player list wasn't a great touch, but at least I believe that this choice has a reason. If you look at the WEC prize pool, its RIDICULOUSLY high. If the announcement is that high, I would seriously like to see the sponsors and their words on that money, as such a high level tournament really shouldn't have ANY shady stuff surrounding it. Hopefully this mess does indeed get solved as quickly as possible, as it conflicts with IEM Toronto qualifiers, and it will be a pain in the butt for the players if they miss out on a great opportunity such as this due to shady business.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 06 2014 15:11 GMT
#75
On August 07 2014 00:05 Arceus wrote:
the typical amount of hate and ignorance in this thread reflects how eSport is still a joke industry, at least in the west. Can you haters count how many players didnt get prize paid, screwed over every week? Whats so beneficial for your players to play in shady journey that cant even identify itself?

I do agree on this, I think KeSPA's concern about the tourney is in good will and is completely valid, but the part of denying the fact that the organizers contacted players and teams kinda pisses people off. The general consensus here mainly blame KeSPA for that, not a lot of people argue about their concern itself.
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
August 06 2014 15:13 GMT
#76
On August 06 2014 23:57 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 23:41 SuperHofmann wrote:
On August 06 2014 23:39 sd_andeh wrote:
inb4 the winner doesn't get paid and KeSPA was right all along.

KeSPA doesn't deny their players tournaments just to show muscle lol, this is to protect the players. I don't agree with the lying about the bracket though

Protect from what?


Sending their players to a questionable tournament where they might not get paid properly or on time or compensated for travel? When's the last time you've ever heard a Kespa player complain about tournaments not paying them? Non-kespa players on the other hand...

If it makes you feel any better, I am the caster for the event and I'm in the same boat (more or less) with the players. I am willing to take the risks too.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 15:16:59
August 06 2014 15:16 GMT
#77
On August 07 2014 00:11 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:05 Arceus wrote:
the typical amount of hate and ignorance in this thread reflects how eSport is still a joke industry, at least in the west. Can you haters count how many players didnt get prize paid, screwed over every week? Whats so beneficial for your players to play in shady journey that cant even identify itself?

I do agree on this, I think KeSPA's concern about the tourney is in good will and is completely valid, but the part of denying the fact that the organizers contacted players and teams kinda pisses people off. The general consensus here mainly blame KeSPA for that, not a lot of people argue about their concern itself.

Euh no, pretty much everyone in here who writes something like "kespa kills starcraft again" probably didn't even read the op.
It is just easier to hate on kespa, it is some sort of tradition really.
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
August 06 2014 15:19 GMT
#78
KeSPA is obviously right to react like they does. Maybe they are wrong and everything'll run fine, prize pool'll be paid. But they can't know for sure atm
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
August 06 2014 16:00 GMT
#79
On August 06 2014 23:06 Gamlet wrote:
Kespa power!!!JD leave EG plz.Back to Korea plz.


Yeah!! Go back to Kespa where you can't stream and can't participate in no tournament! Do that because we love you so much , that we don't want to see you play or earn money!

^^

fuck kespa
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 06 2014 16:10 GMT
#80
On August 07 2014 01:00 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 23:06 Gamlet wrote:
Kespa power!!!JD leave EG plz.Back to Korea plz.


Yeah!! Go back to Kespa where you can't stream and can't participate in no tournament! Do that because we love you so much , that we don't want to see you play or earn money!

^^

fuck kespa


Not liking KeSPA is a completely fine position to have, but keep in mind that they are the ones - to some extent, anyway - that keep Proleague and the teams going. KeSPA aren't flawless, but their organization isn't structured like it is because they want to fuck the players over at all. They have made significant contributions to both Starcraft scenes, and I think it's silly to act like all they ever do is ruin stuff.
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