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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
July 19 2014 05:04 GMT
#21
Wow, unexpected TL article. Awesome! =D
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 19 2014 05:04 GMT
#22
On July 19 2014 13:53 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 13:42 Lumi wrote:
Main news update just for the outcome of a single Ro8 series? Is there a precedent for this?

It's a work in progress!

Cool idea, I like it.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 19 2014 05:15 GMT
#23
On July 19 2014 13:53 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 13:42 Lumi wrote:
Main news update just for the outcome of a single Ro8 series? Is there a precedent for this?

It's a work in progress!


Oh cool, I can dig it :D
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extinctosaurus
Profile Joined April 2014
101 Posts
July 19 2014 05:16 GMT
#24
I like the updating articles! Also JD vs Snute games nearly gave me a heart attack, especially the last one. Sad Snute is out but I'm glad JD advances.

Also I can't believe I missed the Taeja vs Zest matches ;_; 3-0... wut
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12542 Posts
July 19 2014 05:29 GMT
#25
See you tomorrow Jd!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 19 2014 05:32 GMT
#26
Very nice article, however a bit stumped about it linking to Here For preview of todays games, its only preview of the groups not the quarter finals. If I'm not missing something obvious.

Sad Snute got taken out but Jaedong is a boss, was planing on watching the games but didn't expect them to be finished already when waking up 06:30 on a bloody saturday. Damnit

Awesome Taeja rocked Zest ^_^
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
July 19 2014 05:39 GMT
#27
Jaedong > Bogus finals, please.
T P Z sagi
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
July 19 2014 06:09 GMT
#28
On July 19 2014 13:42 Lumi wrote:
Main news update just for the outcome of a single Ro8 series? Is there a precedent for this?


I like it, Snute vs JD was the one result I was going to look up after waking up. Thanks for saving me a trip to liquipedia TL, saved me 15 seconds!
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
July 19 2014 07:05 GMT
#29
Going into this, I think Zest and TaeJa are the only players that really could be called "the best player in the world" right now. I guess there is no question now. And TaeJa also shuts up all the people who say he couldn't compete with the best of the GSL. Sure, Pigbaby showed that he's not invincible but neither is anyone else right now.
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12542 Posts
July 19 2014 07:16 GMT
#30
Oh yea its gonna be jd vs Taeja omg!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 19 2014 07:16 GMT
#31
On July 19 2014 16:05 Radicalness wrote:
Going into this, I think Zest and TaeJa are the only players that really could be called "the best player in the world" right now. I guess there is no question now. And TaeJa also shuts up all the people who say he couldn't compete with the best of the GSL. Sure, Pigbaby showed that he's not invincible but neither is anyone else right now.

No, there still definitely is. While yes, a very good win, grats, etc etc.

Until he plays with those players all the time, like in proleague and GSL, it will always be questioned. He got stomped by Pigbaby, then stomped Zest. Zest is better than Pigbaby, variance happens. Would Taeja win 70% of his games in GSL? We'll never know until he tried - which he won't. Theorizing is also irrelevant, because unless it happens it doesn't matter.

Now, Taeja is good, I just refuse to say he's the best. His typical tournament win involves a bunch of foreigners, then 2-4 koreans, which are usually frequent international tournament attenders (hyun, mc, etc). Not the same as going vs 10 kespa players.
Refer to my post.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 19 2014 07:26 GMT
#32
Im assuming there is a Spoiler-Free block on it somehow with the feature on the site?
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 19 2014 07:42 GMT
#33
There is a "hide spoilers" button in the main page.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 08:05:31
July 19 2014 08:05 GMT
#34
Man, tough road for Jim. I know most people will probably think he's lucky to draw Solar instead of Bogus, but Solar's ZvP is ridiculous. But man that would be awesome if he could win tomorrow in China.
Meh
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 19 2014 08:10 GMT
#35
Taeja hype! IDK if he can handle Jaedong's kong power tho.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
July 19 2014 08:11 GMT
#36
On July 19 2014 16:16 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 16:05 Radicalness wrote:
Going into this, I think Zest and TaeJa are the only players that really could be called "the best player in the world" right now. I guess there is no question now. And TaeJa also shuts up all the people who say he couldn't compete with the best of the GSL. Sure, Pigbaby showed that he's not invincible but neither is anyone else right now.

No, there still definitely is. While yes, a very good win, grats, etc etc.

Until he plays with those players all the time, like in proleague and GSL, it will always be questioned. He got stomped by Pigbaby, then stomped Zest. Zest is better than Pigbaby, variance happens. Would Taeja win 70% of his games in GSL? We'll never know until he tried - which he won't. Theorizing is also irrelevant, because unless it happens it doesn't matter.

Now, Taeja is good, I just refuse to say he's the best. His typical tournament win involves a bunch of foreigners, then 2-4 koreans, which are usually frequent international tournament attenders (hyun, mc, etc). Not the same as going vs 10 kespa players.


So who would you say is the best player in the world then? Sure, it's kind of a subjective and biased/speculative title in today's world of StarCraft where every tournament seems to be won by someone new but looking at 2014 in a whole thus far, I think TaeJa's accomplishments edge out anything anyone else has done especially after he just 3-0'd Zest as I had them 1-2.

It's even more clear if he ends up winning this tournament but there's still a long ways to go there. Solar is looking the hottest right now imo.

Anyways, TaeJa is 5-1 in maps against Kespa players thus far in this tournament and his 10 premier wins are more than anyone else in the history sc2 but he'll always get flack for not winning or consistently competing in the GSL.
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
July 19 2014 08:14 GMT
#37
As has been said before, Zest losing 3-0 can easily be put down to variance. To be the best player in the world, Taeja has to prove himself consistently in the hardest scene of all - the KR scene.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 19 2014 08:15 GMT
#38
Holy shit Taeja O.O
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 19 2014 08:17 GMT
#39
On July 19 2014 17:11 Radicalness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 16:16 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 19 2014 16:05 Radicalness wrote:
Going into this, I think Zest and TaeJa are the only players that really could be called "the best player in the world" right now. I guess there is no question now. And TaeJa also shuts up all the people who say he couldn't compete with the best of the GSL. Sure, Pigbaby showed that he's not invincible but neither is anyone else right now.

No, there still definitely is. While yes, a very good win, grats, etc etc.

Until he plays with those players all the time, like in proleague and GSL, it will always be questioned. He got stomped by Pigbaby, then stomped Zest. Zest is better than Pigbaby, variance happens. Would Taeja win 70% of his games in GSL? We'll never know until he tried - which he won't. Theorizing is also irrelevant, because unless it happens it doesn't matter.

Now, Taeja is good, I just refuse to say he's the best. His typical tournament win involves a bunch of foreigners, then 2-4 koreans, which are usually frequent international tournament attenders (hyun, mc, etc). Not the same as going vs 10 kespa players.


So who would you say is the best player in the world then? Sure, it's kind of a subjective and biased/speculative title in today's world of StarCraft where every tournament seems to be won by someone new but looking at 2014 in a whole thus far, I think TaeJa's accomplishments edge out anything anyone else has done especially after he just 3-0'd Zest as I had them 1-2.

It's even more clear if he ends up winning this tournament but there's still a long ways to go there. Solar is looking the hottest right now imo.

Anyways, TaeJa is 5-1 in maps against Kespa players thus far in this tournament and his 10 premier wins are more than anyone else in the history sc2 but he'll always get flack for not winning or consistently competing in the GSL.


I would say the true answer, even if it's a bit of a cop out, is that no one really knows. Not just the insular nature of GSL/SPL tournaments, but also the fact that players that may be great at preparation that comes with SPL/GSL, may suck at weekend tournaments around the world format. And vice versa.

Meh
timchen1017
Profile Joined May 2014
37 Posts
July 19 2014 08:24 GMT
#40
I think TotalBiscuit has this one right. Taeja is very solid in mechanics, but he probably just does not do as much to prepare for a specific match. That hurts him not only in GSL, but in WCS as well. Starcraft is indeed a game that specialized preparation does make a lot of difference. Maybe he should seek his redemption in Blizzcon or IEM finals...

In general, I see Kespa players pretty good; the code S players are perhaps in average better than Koreans that are commonly seen at WCS NA/EU Ro8, but not like dominantly so.
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