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On June 16 2014 14:38 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:34 dsousa wrote:On June 16 2014 14:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:24 ninazerg wrote:On June 16 2014 14:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:00 DinosaurJones wrote:
Someone in a position of prominence is more likely to be punished, because like it or not, they have to be held to a higher standard and walk on eggshells.
Well no they just need to not run around calling people niggers or doling out extremely personal insults. It's really not that hard, seriously So, N-word: not okay C-word: okay because it's normal in Australia C-word ok because it's not considered extremely racist across most of the planet too, that's a plus. Sexism is okay, racism is not. Got it. Take note SC2 pro gamers. Are you going to publish a list of bannable BM, or just ban people as you see fit? Is there a process or is just based on your mood? Pro's need to know, their careers are at stake. The n word is almost universally condemned seeing as it is a very racist term and goes back to some dark shit
Wow I should fire you for this
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On June 16 2014 14:53 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:38 Darkhorse wrote:On June 16 2014 14:34 dsousa wrote:On June 16 2014 14:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:24 ninazerg wrote:On June 16 2014 14:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:00 DinosaurJones wrote:
Someone in a position of prominence is more likely to be punished, because like it or not, they have to be held to a higher standard and walk on eggshells.
Well no they just need to not run around calling people niggers or doling out extremely personal insults. It's really not that hard, seriously So, N-word: not okay C-word: okay because it's normal in Australia C-word ok because it's not considered extremely racist across most of the planet too, that's a plus. Sexism is okay, racism is not. Got it. Take note SC2 pro gamers. Are you going to publish a list of bannable BM, or just ban people as you see fit? Is there a process or is just based on your mood? Pro's need to know, their careers are at stake. The n word is almost universally condemned seeing as it is a very racist term and goes back to some dark shit Wow I should fire you for this
So you're IvD and I'm RuFF is that it? Is RuFF all I ever was to you?!
It may or may not be too soon for this to be remotely funny I dunno
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On June 16 2014 14:48 knOxStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:42 DinosaurJones wrote:On June 16 2014 14:40 knOxStarcraft wrote:On June 16 2014 12:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 12:30 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Also I don't understand how it's so wrong to troll them. If they're going to be dicks then they're going to get treated accordingly. Let's say there's a guy who losers his temper and says something inappropriate every 1 in 100 times he loses a game. He plays 30 games a day, loses 15 of them, so he says something bad about once a week. Now, depending on how people react and what kind of environment he's in, that rate can either go up or go down. There's no doubt in my mind that when people respond to venom with venom, that rate goes up. And it's not only that, but there are people who very clearly recognize a known rager and try to get them to rage just to laugh at their rage (and so their viewers can laugh too). In other words, there are people who purposely try to increase that rate. Let that influence happen over several years to an impressionable young kid, and you turn him into a guy who has a nasty comment at the end of nearly every loss. Personally I block almost every rager I encounter while streaming. SC2 practice is not the time to try to help a guy with a rage problem, but I do my best to not feed his rage. I play the best I can to win the game, which is the most respectful thing I can do, and I simply say gg and leave if I've lost. I think these simple policies would go a long way toward improving the community if everyone who was capable of doing them actually did them. I haven't been doing this for long, but I've done it pretty consistently for a little while now and I'm gonna keep doing it for as long as I can. There are some hopeless cases but there are also always some people who could either get worse or get better. It is absolutely ignorant to think you don't have some influence over the people you interact with and you ought to take responsibility for that influence. And with regard to the hopeless cases, I definitely think there's something immoral about abusing them just because they're incapable of contributing anything positive. If you have to cut them off then just cut them off, but don't ever abuse them. It's not like the abuse is punishment in hopes of rehabilitation... it's just eye for an eye bullshit. Or if you can't help it, and it's your own weakness that you can't help but get revenge on people who have wronged you, then at least admit it's a weakness and don't act like you're righteous. Usually people who BM seem to just really be angry with themselves and are venting, saying "imba" or "fuck off" or whatever, which won't get them kicked from a team as far as I'm aware. Making them angry by offensive gg'ing the next game is just fun, not really eye for an eye, and if they take that and then do something like what ruff did then fuck em, good riddance. Adults should be able to show some self control, and hell, they shouldn't be thinking things like "I better insult this kid about his serious disease, that'll get him" in the first place. If they do think those things then I'm glad people are there to troll them and get them to reveal how fucked they are. Ummmmm... Ummm what? An eye for an eye, meaning to get someone back for wronging you. Someone venting "at" me isn't wronging me, so can't be called an eye for an eye. I'm also not out of control when I offensive gg someone whose blabbering about imbalances or whatever, care to bold out any more of what I said? I'll try to explain it the best I can to you.
I'm sorry, I'm really not trying to offend you (There is enough of that in this thread), I just don't see the point in offensive gg's and the like. I mean, sure, it is among the least offensive thing you can do (comparatively), and is obviously far better than calling someone out for their disease or using racial slurs. I just think that in the sense where you say ''people who BM are seem to just be really angry with themselves,'' doing something like an offensive GG is just adding fuel to the fire. If they should have the self control to not BM in the first place, shouldn't you have the self control not to antagonize, no matter how mildly?
And again, this is just my opinion, and it's pretty clear that this thread is pretty heated, so I am just going to say that it is totally fine if you disagree with me.
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On June 16 2014 14:53 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:The point is it is INSANE to try and mediate and police this stuff. Nobody is trying to police it, they're just ensuring there are consequences for acting like a little shit when you're representing an organization. That's not mediation or police work, that's capitalism working as intended. FOR ONCE amirite or amirite?! Haha #jokes #civilthread It's not working
Of course not, hashtags never achieved anything.
God this thread made me hate Starcraft for a day. Let's hope it's gone by tomorrow.
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On June 16 2014 14:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:53 Darkhorse wrote:On June 16 2014 14:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:The point is it is INSANE to try and mediate and police this stuff. Nobody is trying to police it, they're just ensuring there are consequences for acting like a little shit when you're representing an organization. That's not mediation or police work, that's capitalism working as intended. FOR ONCE amirite or amirite?! Haha #jokes #civilthread It's not working Of course not, hashtags never achieved anything. God this thread made me hate Starcraft for a day. Let's hope it's gone by tomorrow.
I think #Rotti-Build is alright as hashtags go
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On June 16 2014 14:53 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:The point is it is INSANE to try and mediate and police this stuff. Nobody is trying to police it, they're just ensuring there are consequences for acting like a little shit when you're representing an organization. That's not mediation or police work, that's capitalism working as intended. FOR ONCE amirite or amirite?! Haha #jokes #civilthread It's not working
DAMMIT MAN, I am TRYING to be civil!!
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Sexism is okay, racism is not.
Got it. Take note SC2 pro gamers.
Are you going to publish a list of bannable BM, or just ban people as you see fit? Is there a process or is just based on your mood?
Pro's need to know, their careers are at stake.
Subjectivity at it's finest.
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On June 16 2014 14:47 ROOTCatZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 13:26 ROOTCatZ wrote:On June 16 2014 12:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 12:30 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Also I don't understand how it's so wrong to troll them. If they're going to be dicks then they're going to get treated accordingly. Let's say there's a guy who losers his temper and says something inappropriate every 1 in 100 times he loses a game. He plays 30 games a day, loses 15 of them, so he says something bad about once a week. Now, depending on how people react and what kind of environment he's in, that rate can either go up or go down. There's no doubt in my mind that when people respond to venom with venom, that rate goes up. And it's not only that, but there are people who very clearly recognize a known rager and try to get them to rage just to laugh at their rage (and so their viewers can laugh too). In other words, there are people who purposely try to increase that rate. Let that influence happen over several years to an impressionable young kid, and you turn him into a guy who has a nasty comment at the end of nearly every loss. Personally I block almost every rager I encounter while streaming. SC2 practice is not the time to try to help a guy with a rage problem, but I do my best to not feed his rage. I play the best I can to win the game, which is the most respectful thing I can do, and I simply say gg and leave if I've lost. I think these simple policies would go a long way toward improving the community if everyone who was capable of doing them actually did them. I haven't been doing this for long, but I've done it pretty consistently for a little while now and I'm gonna keep doing it for as long as I can. There are some hopeless cases but there are also always some people who could either get worse or get better. It is absolutely ignorant to think you don't have some influence over the people you interact with and you ought to take responsibility for that influence. And with regard to the hopeless cases, I definitely think there's something immoral about abusing them just because they're incapable of contributing anything positive. If you have to cut them off then just cut them off, but don't ever abuse them. It's not like the abuse is punishment in hopes of rehabilitation... it's just eye for an eye bullshit. Or if you can't help it, and it's your own weakness that you can't help but get revenge on people who have wronged you, then at least admit it's a weakness and don't act like you're righteous. I agree, it'd be nice if people admited when they were wrong and what not and didn't create drama where there isn't drama to be had, false accusations are stupid, for example - especially when made publicly and not privately, I also think people who do that sort of thing should apologize, so that we can all get along. =/ Man now you're really testing my patience. This is exactly what I'm talking about with people acting with bad intentions while not crossing any lines. It is obvious that you haven't written that post in an attempt to improve the community or improve any particular situation or relationship or anything. You saw an opportunity to prod at me and you took it. That's it. You offer nothing new, just more of the "isn't it crazy what nony is saying now? what a crazy and absurd guy let's all laugh at his ridiculous ideas" without actually saying anything of substance. I think it's absurd that you guys don't know how to operate b.net's friends list and you think it's absurd that I think you and/or Destiny would mess with me like that. I don't even know why you'd want an apology from me since you seem to revel in the conflict. No ROOT fan ceased being a ROOT fan because of my accusation, instead I got added to a list of players they like to heckle, following your lead. If you really want to improve the situation, then just behave professionally. Your little stunt (and I do mean little -- I'm not making a big deal out of it) joining my game lobby vs vibe and writing a message is just the kind of thing that doesn't help anything at all. And now you poke your nose in here, not to contribute to the discussion about what's best for the community, but to poke at me when I just got finished saying how worthless and despicable such pokes are. Just drop it and behave professionally. I'm not the first one to be a dick, ever, NonY, that's my one policy - its you who went and made ridiculous accusations and I responded, sorry that's how I choose to deal with the situation, that's my first insitinct and that's what I'll continue to do, cause i'm not a hypocrite, you can write essays about how shady I am and say we're cheating, talk about conspiracy and expect me to sit quietly? Maybe it would be the professional thing to do, maybe i'm not professional, well shame on me. not go and post stupid shit elsewhere and then come back and make Gandhi-like posts about improving the community, im not about to list what I have or haven't done for this game, clearly, I dislike you and you dislike me, the "lets all get along and be nice to each other" message coming from you bothers me a lot, for obvious reasons, more-so when the TL thread's about RuFF getting kicked out for being a dick to one of my teammates and best friends.
NONY IS GANDHI?
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Did you make that just now or do you have secret photoshops of every progamer as Gandhi for just such an occasion?
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On June 16 2014 15:01 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:47 ROOTCatZ wrote:On June 16 2014 13:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 13:26 ROOTCatZ wrote:On June 16 2014 12:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 12:30 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Also I don't understand how it's so wrong to troll them. If they're going to be dicks then they're going to get treated accordingly. Let's say there's a guy who losers his temper and says something inappropriate every 1 in 100 times he loses a game. He plays 30 games a day, loses 15 of them, so he says something bad about once a week. Now, depending on how people react and what kind of environment he's in, that rate can either go up or go down. There's no doubt in my mind that when people respond to venom with venom, that rate goes up. And it's not only that, but there are people who very clearly recognize a known rager and try to get them to rage just to laugh at their rage (and so their viewers can laugh too). In other words, there are people who purposely try to increase that rate. Let that influence happen over several years to an impressionable young kid, and you turn him into a guy who has a nasty comment at the end of nearly every loss. Personally I block almost every rager I encounter while streaming. SC2 practice is not the time to try to help a guy with a rage problem, but I do my best to not feed his rage. I play the best I can to win the game, which is the most respectful thing I can do, and I simply say gg and leave if I've lost. I think these simple policies would go a long way toward improving the community if everyone who was capable of doing them actually did them. I haven't been doing this for long, but I've done it pretty consistently for a little while now and I'm gonna keep doing it for as long as I can. There are some hopeless cases but there are also always some people who could either get worse or get better. It is absolutely ignorant to think you don't have some influence over the people you interact with and you ought to take responsibility for that influence. And with regard to the hopeless cases, I definitely think there's something immoral about abusing them just because they're incapable of contributing anything positive. If you have to cut them off then just cut them off, but don't ever abuse them. It's not like the abuse is punishment in hopes of rehabilitation... it's just eye for an eye bullshit. Or if you can't help it, and it's your own weakness that you can't help but get revenge on people who have wronged you, then at least admit it's a weakness and don't act like you're righteous. I agree, it'd be nice if people admited when they were wrong and what not and didn't create drama where there isn't drama to be had, false accusations are stupid, for example - especially when made publicly and not privately, I also think people who do that sort of thing should apologize, so that we can all get along. =/ Man now you're really testing my patience. This is exactly what I'm talking about with people acting with bad intentions while not crossing any lines. It is obvious that you haven't written that post in an attempt to improve the community or improve any particular situation or relationship or anything. You saw an opportunity to prod at me and you took it. That's it. You offer nothing new, just more of the "isn't it crazy what nony is saying now? what a crazy and absurd guy let's all laugh at his ridiculous ideas" without actually saying anything of substance. I think it's absurd that you guys don't know how to operate b.net's friends list and you think it's absurd that I think you and/or Destiny would mess with me like that. I don't even know why you'd want an apology from me since you seem to revel in the conflict. No ROOT fan ceased being a ROOT fan because of my accusation, instead I got added to a list of players they like to heckle, following your lead. If you really want to improve the situation, then just behave professionally. Your little stunt (and I do mean little -- I'm not making a big deal out of it) joining my game lobby vs vibe and writing a message is just the kind of thing that doesn't help anything at all. And now you poke your nose in here, not to contribute to the discussion about what's best for the community, but to poke at me when I just got finished saying how worthless and despicable such pokes are. Just drop it and behave professionally. I'm not the first one to be a dick, ever, NonY, that's my one policy - its you who went and made ridiculous accusations and I responded, sorry that's how I choose to deal with the situation, that's my first insitinct and that's what I'll continue to do, cause i'm not a hypocrite, you can write essays about how shady I am and say we're cheating, talk about conspiracy and expect me to sit quietly? Maybe it would be the professional thing to do, maybe i'm not professional, well shame on me. not go and post stupid shit elsewhere and then come back and make Gandhi-like posts about improving the community, im not about to list what I have or haven't done for this game, clearly, I dislike you and you dislike me, the "lets all get along and be nice to each other" message coming from you bothers me a lot, for obvious reasons, more-so when the TL thread's about RuFF getting kicked out for being a dick to one of my teammates and best friends. NONY IS GANDHI?
That is wonderful. Thank you for lightening the situation. CatZ and NonY are two of my favorite players and it sucks to see them arguing all the time ;_;
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On June 16 2014 14:56 DinosaurJones wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:48 knOxStarcraft wrote:On June 16 2014 14:42 DinosaurJones wrote:On June 16 2014 14:40 knOxStarcraft wrote:On June 16 2014 12:59 NonY wrote:On June 16 2014 12:30 knOxStarcraft wrote:
Also I don't understand how it's so wrong to troll them. If they're going to be dicks then they're going to get treated accordingly. Let's say there's a guy who losers his temper and says something inappropriate every 1 in 100 times he loses a game. He plays 30 games a day, loses 15 of them, so he says something bad about once a week. Now, depending on how people react and what kind of environment he's in, that rate can either go up or go down. There's no doubt in my mind that when people respond to venom with venom, that rate goes up. And it's not only that, but there are people who very clearly recognize a known rager and try to get them to rage just to laugh at their rage (and so their viewers can laugh too). In other words, there are people who purposely try to increase that rate. Let that influence happen over several years to an impressionable young kid, and you turn him into a guy who has a nasty comment at the end of nearly every loss. Personally I block almost every rager I encounter while streaming. SC2 practice is not the time to try to help a guy with a rage problem, but I do my best to not feed his rage. I play the best I can to win the game, which is the most respectful thing I can do, and I simply say gg and leave if I've lost. I think these simple policies would go a long way toward improving the community if everyone who was capable of doing them actually did them. I haven't been doing this for long, but I've done it pretty consistently for a little while now and I'm gonna keep doing it for as long as I can. There are some hopeless cases but there are also always some people who could either get worse or get better. It is absolutely ignorant to think you don't have some influence over the people you interact with and you ought to take responsibility for that influence. And with regard to the hopeless cases, I definitely think there's something immoral about abusing them just because they're incapable of contributing anything positive. If you have to cut them off then just cut them off, but don't ever abuse them. It's not like the abuse is punishment in hopes of rehabilitation... it's just eye for an eye bullshit. Or if you can't help it, and it's your own weakness that you can't help but get revenge on people who have wronged you, then at least admit it's a weakness and don't act like you're righteous. Usually people who BM seem to just really be angry with themselves and are venting, saying "imba" or "fuck off" or whatever, which won't get them kicked from a team as far as I'm aware. Making them angry by offensive gg'ing the next game is just fun, not really eye for an eye, and if they take that and then do something like what ruff did then fuck em, good riddance. Adults should be able to show some self control, and hell, they shouldn't be thinking things like "I better insult this kid about his serious disease, that'll get him" in the first place. If they do think those things then I'm glad people are there to troll them and get them to reveal how fucked they are. Ummmmm... Ummm what? An eye for an eye, meaning to get someone back for wronging you. Someone venting "at" me isn't wronging me, so can't be called an eye for an eye. I'm also not out of control when I offensive gg someone whose blabbering about imbalances or whatever, care to bold out any more of what I said? I'll try to explain it the best I can to you. I'm sorry, I'm really not trying to offend you (There is enough of that in this thread), I just don't see the point in offensive gg's and the like. I mean, sure, it is among the least offensive thing you can do (comparatively), and is obviously far better than calling someone out for their disease or using racial slurs. I just think that in the sense where you say ''people who BM are seem to just be really angry with themselves,'' doing something like an offensive GG is just adding fuel to the fire. If they should have the self control to not BM in the first place, shouldn't you have the self control not to antagonize, no matter how mildly? And again, this is just my opinion, and it's pretty clear that this thread is pretty heated, so I am just going to say that it is totally fine if you disagree with me.
I mean, they probably could find a more healthy way of venting anger, but people who vent anger with "regular" BM aren't the people who I was talking about. I meant people should have the self control to not say things that will clearly hurt the person they're talking to and clearly not be taken well by their sponsors. I rarely offensive gg but the point is to fuel the fire, which is kind of funny to me, so it's not as if I'm out of control. It gives me a good laugh to offensive gg and it makes them a little angrier, big whoop.
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On June 16 2014 15:03 Darkhorse wrote:
Did you make that just now or do you have secret photoshops of every progamer as Gandhi for just such an occasion?
The second one
It was hard work but someone had to do it.
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On June 16 2014 14:34 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 14:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:24 ninazerg wrote:On June 16 2014 14:03 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 14:00 DinosaurJones wrote:
Someone in a position of prominence is more likely to be punished, because like it or not, they have to be held to a higher standard and walk on eggshells.
Well no they just need to not run around calling people niggers or doling out extremely personal insults. It's really not that hard, seriously So, N-word: not okay C-word: okay because it's normal in Australia C-word ok because it's not considered extremely racist across most of the planet too, that's a plus. Sexism is okay, racism is not. Got it. Take note SC2 pro gamers. Are you going to publish a list of bannable BM, or just ban people as you see fit? Is there a process or is just based on your mood? Pro's need to know, their careers are at stake.
Calling someone a dick would also be sexism. Or a pussy, a bitch, etc...
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On June 16 2014 15:06 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 15:03 Darkhorse wrote:
Did you make that just now or do you have secret photoshops of every progamer as Gandhi for just such an occasion? The second one It was hard work but someone had to do it.
I admire your dedication and emergency preparedness
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On June 16 2014 13:33 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 13:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 12:14 KingKayzz wrote:On June 16 2014 11:52 BreAKerTV wrote:On June 16 2014 04:40 LongShot27 wrote:On June 16 2014 04:38 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 04:33 LongShot27 wrote:On June 16 2014 04:31 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 04:27 LongShot27 wrote:
"I dunno what other punishment they'd have for him."
A month's suspension seems appropriate If a player on my team ever said something like that he'd be out on the street in a heartbeat. All these ideas of made-up punishments are irrelevant. It seems appropriate? Based on what, your expert knowledge of running Starcraft 2 teams? That's as arbitrary as anything else. Hey here's an idea, ya got a cancer in your team, cut it out and move on before it kills you. I'm not wasting my time on someone who refuses to consider other peoples opinions or points. You don't have any opinions or points, you just made up a random number and thought that was a valuable post in some way. Why not 3 weeks suspension? Why not 5? Why not 2 months? Tell me, which is most appropriate? Reality check: Opinions are totally worthless unless you have something to back them up with, whether it be reputation, experience or preferably, some actual reasoning or evidence to support your argument. Oh you have an opinion? How very not special, every has opinions. Other things everyone has, the ability to breath. Do you want me to applaud you for breathing? HEY CONGRATULATIONS, YOU DID THIS THING EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO! WHOOOOOOO!!! Earn your respect by posting something interesting. Opinions are the most common thing in the world and appropriately also the least valuable. Distinguish yours from others by making it interesting and arguing your point, instead of throwing your toys out of the pram and stamping your feed when somebody calls you out on your vapid point. Oh look, starting to yell at someone to get yourself more attention because someone refuses to acknowledge you. How very original of you. Could you lay off of total biscuit? The guy is a cancer patient and if you think that Ruff's comments didn't offend him either, you're wrong. Adding to that, he is only being realistic. It'd be alot easier to lay off him if there weren't so many dickriders in this thread. You get me? PS: Being a cancer patient doesn't excuse a person of certain power and persuasion from publicly decrying a player that has already even admitted to crying as a result of his actions. Where I'M from that's called using your illness to take advantage of situations - in this case, taking advantage of your status and your medical history to make sure that Ruff has no second chances. I just found out who you are, TotalBiscuit. I used to watch your show on youtube. Dat public appereance. On your WTF IS... you seem like the kind of dude people want to invite over for a beer and a joint. But, like Michael Jordan, you're just a douchebag taking advantage of your position to berrate people and whine at the system (yeah, I also saw your whiny video about the industry.) Fuck you, man. Take a page from Nony's book. I took his post as a subtle FUCK YOU to someone. But, no one batted an eye because it was done in a professional manner. ...I'm out of this thread before I get banned again. >.< User was temp banned for this post. As usual, we see that many of the people that dislike me are the people nobody would want as fans to begin with. TB, can I ask why this post is necessary. You actually wasted a minute of your time and everyone else's to go: "Oh hey look, this guy got temp banned I'm going to rub his nose in it."
TB is different- the rules don't apply to him. If I've learned nothing on TL in the last 4 years its that TB is always going to get his cake and eat it too. Best to let him have his fun. What goes around comes around.
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On June 16 2014 15:08 Joedaddy wrote:
TB is different- the rules don't apply to him. If I've learned nothing on TL in the last 4 years its that TB is always going to get his cake and eat it too. Best to let him have his fun. What goes around comes around.
The rules apply just fine, since some of us know the difference between constructive criticism and shitposting.
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On June 16 2014 15:06 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 15:03 Darkhorse wrote:
Did you make that just now or do you have secret photoshops of every progamer as Gandhi for just such an occasion? The second one It was hard work but someone had to do it.
Please release all pictures in a blog, hide it well enough that it doesnt circulate on reddit, though.
This thread is pretty interesting to read, but totally got off topic from what I'm seeing.
With that said; Its unfortunate that things happened this way, and a player lost his position on a team. I agree with the decision to drop Ruff, however, as he has always been somewhat of a rager on ladder and it doesnt seem to be changing.
But with action taken and an apology written, I dont see reason to berate Ruff any further. But I'm glad the situation (not the thread) was handled professionally.
EDIT: On June 16 2014 15:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 15:08 Joedaddy wrote:
TB is different- the rules don't apply to him. If I've learned nothing on TL in the last 4 years its that TB is always going to get his cake and eat it too. Best to let him have his fun. What goes around comes around.
The rules apply just fine, since some of us know the difference between constructive criticism and shitposting.
Or have a talent for coasting just along the line whilst still being on the side of constructive criticism. :p
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On June 16 2014 15:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 15:08 Joedaddy wrote:
TB is different- the rules don't apply to him. If I've learned nothing on TL in the last 4 years its that TB is always going to get his cake and eat it too. Best to let him have his fun. What goes around comes around.
The rules apply just fine, since some of us know the difference between constructive criticism and shitposting.
You like to play on the line between the two, admit it 
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