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On June 16 2014 05:47 TotalBiscuit wrote:You heard it here first guys, "Narcissism" = knowing more than somebody else. All those narcissistic doctors, lawyers, plumbers, car mechanics... how dare they be more knowledgeable in a field than someone else and how dare their opinion carry more weight. I don't even find this argument surprisingly anymore, if anything it's just boring. I used to be in college once and thought that everyones opinion was of equal value. Then I got a job, turns out nope, it's not. If anything the internet only serves to make it obvious that opinions are so numerous that they individually hold very little value. Show nested quote +Oh come on.
The big gaming news outlets have more experience and standing, does that mean their opinions should trump yours? A few years ago, sure, but since then their standing has fallen and their "experience" is watered down by a bunch of talented people leaving the industry. It'd be hard to say now that Sessler has left for instance that Rev3 has more standing and experience than I do, but while he was there, I'd have said absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt that his opinion trumps mine when it comes to industry matters.
Gaming review opinions are also much more subjective as a whole than something like running a business or being a fucked up human being.
Sometimes a reviewer might not be into a genre or might not "get" a game on some level that another person might. Gaming reviews you have to take with a grain of salt based on the reviewer and how their opinions stack against yours as a consumer. You might just dig RTS games and this reviewer isn't a fan and doesn't see the intricacies. You might just like stupid garbage games and that's your right.
Running a business is much more clear cut. We need to make money and this person or action diminishes our ability to do so. You then fire that person or stop that action immediately before it fucks you up too much. Being a decent human being is also generally more clear cut. This guy does X or loves Y, it is objectively fucked up to do X or love Y as agreed on by any sensible person or society as a whole.
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On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water.
Ruff was streaming at the time as far as I know, so it was public anyway. Also if a player is being that immature and abrasive I don't mind them being exposed.
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On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water.
Nah, I bet way less than half of them said something as big.
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On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water.
Both Minigun and Ruff were streaming when he said that, I don't think it would have mattered. Also, why SHOULDN'T Minigun post it on twitter? The guy laughed at him for having Crohn's disease, fuck him, He deserves everything he gets.
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On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water.
You don't seem to have read what I said.
This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T
If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this.
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On June 16 2014 05:59 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. Ruff was streaming at the time as far as I know, so it was public anyway. Also if a player is being that immature and abrasive I don't mind them being exposed.
I agree. Bad choice of words by Ruff, and I think appropriate measures were taken... and Ruff manned up and apologized, so hopefully this blows over.
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It depends on which hospital Minigun stayed at but the markups done by a hospital for medications, procedures, doctors is ridiculously high. Each doctor is billed separately, every night stayed is billed, dumb shit will be billed, all the tests are billed separately... If you guys haven't ever seen extensive medical billing you'd be shocked. Plus as Minigun mentioned, some nurses (again, SOME nurses) really don't care. I'd walk into the patient's room and I'll sometimes get people water or wettened paper towels so they could blow their nose since they were bed ridden and their nurses hadn't checked in on them in almost 2 hours.
Like Minigun said, you must be assertive, NOT RUDE, in order to get quality care from some nurses....
That said, you forum lurkers underestimating American hospital bills have no fucking clue lol. A few days stay (as admitted/inpatient) at the hospital I worked at for a while involving a surgery or 2 usually amounted to ~35,000 at least....
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On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this.
Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite.
Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough.
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The actions this community has taken against Ruff remind me that we embrace the mantra "More GG, More Skill." This gives me pride in our SC2 community. We cannot let our moral standards drop to such a level that we accept low-blow insults as "part of the game." Our current intolerance for disrespect, if maintained, will continue to transform SC2 into a more viable advertising platform and will encourage the growth we all so desperately want to see.
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On June 16 2014 04:09 Arvetis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:10 RuFF_SC2 wrote:
I want to apologize for what I said to Minigun on the ladder. I know now that what I said was inexcusable and with that came the ultimate punishment by losing the team that I enjoy being with the most. I did not think when I was typing and I should have kept my personal opinions to myself. I lashed out in rage because of the comment Minigun said and also because someone said he was in my stream chat. I should have more of a professional character and not get upset by such banter. When I was told that I was removed from IVD Gaming I literally cried. The people on this team have the best of hearts and when it comes to management, they only want to strive to ensure that e-sports becomes a popular thing.
I saved my step brother 5 years ago by spotting his cancer early at Rapids Waterpark in Florida when I noticed he was walking with a limp. He became part of Make-A-Wish foundation and has recovered from his cancer since then. I felt obligated to say this because I do not want to come across as a heartless person. I tend to get away from the issues in RL and not think while playing StarCraft.
I have had beef with Minigun since WoL and admit to holding a grudge because I treated him like a friend when we both were learning how to play Terran at some point we clashed on ladder and went our separate ways. Still ultimately what I said was inexcusable and I hope that he gets better from his illness. I should treat people like I would in person as if there was not a computer screen in front of me.
I hope that the community sees this as an appropriate action even though I am saddened by the decision. Best wishes to everyone and I hope this does not effect the community in a negative aspect. This is the apology of a sociopath. You shift blame onto the person you're apologizing to (I lashed out in rage because of the comment Minigun said and also because someone said he was in my stream chat). You appeal for sympathy for yourself (When I was told that I was removed from IVD Gaming I literally cried). You try to smooth relations with people who have more power than you ( they only want to strive to ensure that e-sports becomes a popular thing). As soon as possible, you try to segue into a story in which you are the hero. People see through you. Get help.
Above is a comment of person of questionable mental health who spends too much time reading about mental disorders. Get help.
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On June 16 2014 06:06 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this. Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite. Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough.
You do not need to be an angel online to criticize the behavior of others. Hypocrisy is the most misunderstood and frankly worthless term that is often used to try and attack someones credibility. It actually doesn't matter. You're not running for public office, nobody really gives a fuck. 4 years ago I told someone to get cancer and die. Shitty thing to do, I said it in anger, the guy got caught in the crossfire of 4chan trolling me over the UK government refusing to let my wife into the country to see me, my marriage was on the brink of being over, I thought I'd never see my kid again. Still a shitty thing to do. 2 years ago I called someone who was trying to steal money from a charity stream for the disabled a faggot. I should have used a different word, that was my fault and I apologized publicly later on, even though my hateful thoughts towards the thief were entirely justified.
That does not however in any way make me a hypocrite for calling Ruff out for being a piece of shit to Chad and frankly even if it did? Who the fuck cares? Life doesn't keep score. You don't lose points for logical fallacies, you don't get banned from anything for hypocrisy, it's not a bloody college moot or a high school debate team. In this case it would not be hard for Chad to avoid being a hypocrite, all he needs to do is not personally insult someone while using knowledge of their crippling disease to twist the knife. ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT A DIFFICULT THING TO AVOID, TURNS OUT. He can BM, he can do whatever and frankly, short of eating a baby, he's still a better person than Ruff.
So to hell with hypocrisy and the people who place so much importance on trying to pin it on people. Everyone is a hypocrite at some point in their lives but we can say one thing for sure, Ruff was being a piece of shit to Chad and got punished for it. Fin.
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On June 16 2014 06:06 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this. Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite. Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough.
How is that not brought to attention? Ruff's viewers saw it, Minigun's viewers saw it. People knew about it. I don't blame Minigun at all for spreading the fact that Ruff said that.
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On June 16 2014 06:12 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:06 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this. Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite. Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough. How is that not brought to attention? Ruff's viewers saw it, Minigun's viewers saw it. People knew about it. I don't blame Minigun at all for spreading the fact that Ruff said that.
Nah man, if you get mugged or something, don't tell anyone about it, it's just causing more drama, keep it quiet.
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With the amount of strawmanning, ad hominems and other BS in this thread, I'm oddly glad that Ruff's the progamer here and not half the forumers. At this point, I'm all for Ruff dusting himself off, leveling his head a bit more before returning to the pro-scene. He got his punishment, it was just in the context in which it was delivered, and now he's teamless. If he can return to the game with a better mindset (and better "APM"), all the more power to him. If not... well, I don't think we'd mind losing one more insensitive gamer.
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Something tells me that removing RuFF from IvD is abit overkill. Didn't really find his bm to be that offensive really. But i guess it was a very serious thing for the team though. ow well don't really care though cause i dont even know who RuFF is :p
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On June 16 2014 06:19 Jan1997 wrote:
Didn't really find his bm to be that offensive really
And since you weren't the one being targeted by it I doubt that's actually relevant to anyone.
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On June 16 2014 06:19 Jan1997 wrote:
Something tells me that removing RuFF from IvD is abit overkill. Didn't really find his bm to be that offensive really. But i guess it was a very serious thing for the team though. ow well don't really care though cause i dont even know who RuFF is :p
Probably would have found it more offensive in Minigun's shoes. And yeah it was a serious issue for IvD to have someone who acted like that on their team. Simple as that.
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On June 16 2014 06:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:12 Darkhorse wrote:On June 16 2014 06:06 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this. Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite. Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough. How is that not brought to attention? Ruff's viewers saw it, Minigun's viewers saw it. People knew about it. I don't blame Minigun at all for spreading the fact that Ruff said that. Nah man, if you get mugged or something, don't tell anyone about it, it's just causing more drama, keep it quiet.
And if you have a super serious disease and need money to travel to do your job, don't take money from your local church or charity. That's begging.
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On June 16 2014 06:21 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:19 Jan1997 wrote:
Didn't really find his bm to be that offensive really And since you weren't the one being targeted by it I doubt that's actually relevant to anyone.
I would imagine that i still wouldnt be offended by it even if i was targetet by it but thats just me.
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On June 16 2014 06:12 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:06 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 06:01 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:58 TRaFFiC wrote:On June 16 2014 05:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:On June 16 2014 05:55 TRaFFiC wrote:
I would like to say I've been watching Ruff for 3 years on twitch. His comment was disgusting, but it is not his norm. He is a very level headed guy. I haven't watched him much since switching to zerg, but I don't recall him bming much at all.
Why did Mini post that screen shot? I think that's half as bad. Solve these things internally. Don't spread your dirty laundry to the internet. Obviously people are going to fell sorry for him.
Ruff got the punishment. Now let him start new. Let's stop blaming the victim shall we. "Dirty laundry" is such a fucking stupid term. This did not happen in a private room, it was a game that was being streamed. It was already out there. Minigun after being insulted in such a personal way has every right to shine a light on this behavior for the world to see. I think it sets a bad precedent to have pro gamers posting chat logs publicly. Good manner is very important to me, but if we start a war like this, half of the sc2 pro gamers are going to be in hot water. You don't seem to have read what I said. This was a publicly streamed game, it was already public. The chat logs were already public. T If half the sc2 progamers act like this then we could do without them. By that I think you mean a bunch of trash low-GM NA players and the occasional BM Russian. No, actual progamers do not do things like this. Even if it's a publicly streamed game, it's not brought to attention till someone takes a screenshot and brings it to attention. It ended up on Mini's twitter so I hope for his sake he's an angel online so as to not be a hypocrite. Anyway, I'm really not trying to defend Ruff. The guy lost his team for a comment in a game. I think that's enough. You do not need to be an angel online to criticize the behavior of others. Hypocrisy is the most misunderstood and frankly worthless term that is often used to try and attack someones credibility. It actually doesn't matter. You're not running for public office, nobody really gives a fuck. 4 years ago I told someone to get cancer and die. Shitty thing to do, I said it in anger, the guy got caught in the crossfire of 4chan trolling me over the UK government refusing to let my wife into the country to see me, my marriage was on the brink of being over, I thought I'd never see my kid again. Still a shitty thing to do. 2 years ago I called someone who was trying to steal money from a charity stream for the disabled a faggot. I should have used a different word, that was my fault and I apologized publicly later on, even though my hateful thoughts towards the thief were entirely justified. That does not however in any way make me a hypocrite for calling Ruff out for being a piece of shit to Chad and frankly even if it did? Who the fuck cares? Life doesn't keep score. You don't lose points for logical fallacies, you don't get banned from anything for hypocrisy, it's not a bloody college moot or a high school debate team. In this case it would not be hard for Chad to avoid being a hypocrite, all he needs to do is not personally insult someone while using knowledge of their crippling disease to twist the knife. ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT A DIFFICULT THING TO AVOID, TURNS OUT. He can BM, he can do whatever and frankly, short of eating a baby, he's still a better person than Ruff. So to hell with hypocrisy and the people who place so much importance on trying to pin it on people. Everyone is a hypocrite at some point in their lives but we can say one thing for sure, Ruff was being a piece of shit to Chad and got punished for it. Fin.
Nice post.
You're pointing out two isolated incidents where you lashed out at someone and then apologized. If you regularly lashed out at people, it would be hard for you to criticize people for doing the same.
As for your comment "all he needs to do is not personally insult someone while using knowledge of their crippling disease to twist the knife. " This is true, but like I said, we don't know the context of their relationship and that is why I'm against posting screenshots publicly. He could have just done nothing. He could have told Ruff he wouldn't put up with any more comments like that or he could've pmed the team manager. Instead, he got Ruff fired and he's happy about it. Mini's comment: "Thank you. I hoped you guys wouldn't let something like this be allowed, especially with your background. It was uncalled for." Now, maybe he's justified in doing so. I don't know. Like you said, punishment served, fin.
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