EPTOn June 16 2014 07:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't expect people to learn anything. They never do.
I don't expect people to learn anything. They never do.
Hey! I is lerned!
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Please clean up the quality of your posting. This thread has definitely taken a turn for the worse. | ||
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showstealer1829
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Hey! I is lerned! | ||
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jax1492
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Masq
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alpenrahm
Germany628 Posts
Tada who guessed it?! who´s bullshit was tolerated and enjoyed by our humble community for far longer then a reasonable time? Yes Ruff might be an Asshole, yes his insult was highly inappropriate, but isn´t it just as mean to purposefully unleash a shitstorm at someone that costs him the only thing that he holds dear? Am i the only one that considers this a way over the top reaction by everyone involved? including every poster in this thread. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:18 nkr wrote: I really think this thread should stop the hunt to destroy ruff though, nothing good will come from it. He did apologize (even if some might not like his apology) and he got punished. He fucked up badly, the apology doesn't change what he did, but at the same time you have to give people a chance to change themselves. Hundreds of people sitting here bashing him into the ground isn't really doing the right thing either. Hunt to destroy ruff? I'm assuming being a low NA GM wasn't his job, and this thread was announcing him being kicked off the team, so the damage has already been dealt. Also, a lot of the comments are people arguing about the severity of the punishment, not bashing ruff. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: I don't expect people to learn anything. They never do. You learned, others can too. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:29 alpenrahm wrote: might i remind people of this particular man Tada who guessed it?! who´s bullshit was tolerated and enjoyed by our humble community for far longer then a reasonable time? Yes Ruff might be an Asshole, yes his insult was highly inappropriate, but isn´t it just as mean to purposefully unleash a shitstorm at someone that costs him the only thing that he holds dear? Am i the only one that considers this a way over the top reaction by everyone involved? including every poster in this thread. Not even IdrA would have said what ruff did knowing what minigun has gone through. And how can being on IvD be the only thing that a grown man holds dear? lmao if it were so important to him I'm sure he could stop himself from being a douche on ladder. | ||
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MrNovember
United States9 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:29 alpenrahm wrote: might i remind people of this particular man Tada who guessed it?! who´s bullshit was tolerated and enjoyed by our humble community for far longer then a reasonable time? Yes Ruff might be an Asshole, yes his insult was highly inappropriate, but isn´t it just as mean to purposefully unleash a shitstorm at someone that costs him the only thing that he holds dear? Am i the only one that considers this a way over the top reaction by everyone involved? including every poster in this thread. Yup, and idra was fired from EG for his comments. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:36 MrNovember wrote: Yup, and idra was fired from EG for his comments. IdrA was fired for insulting his (or EGs) fans, not for saying David Kim should be raped with a Tire Iron or all the insults he threw at other players. | ||
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nkr
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On June 16 2014 07:31 knOxStarcraft wrote: Hunt to destroy ruff? I'm assuming being a low NA GM wasn't his job, and this thread was announcing him being kicked off the team, so the damage has already been dealt. Also, a lot of the comments are people arguing about the severity of the punishment, not bashing ruff. Not saying everyone is doing it, but there are still people on every page kicking the guy who's on the ground, which isn't better than what ruff did. Obviously arguing about what's appropriate action or not isn't what I was adressing. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:39 Broodwurst wrote: IdrA was fired for insulting his (or EGs) fans, not for saying David Kim should be raped with a Tire Iron or all the insults he threw at other players. Its more like that was his last strike. | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2718 Posts
On June 16 2014 07:44 nkr wrote: Not saying everyone is doing it, but there are still people on every page kicking the guy who's on the ground, which isn't better than what ruff did. Obviously arguing about what's appropriate action or not isn't what I was adressing. That's the thing with forums. Everyone is forming their opinion on the matter and posting it and you get amplified effects of a collective opinion that probably seems too much. | ||
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VasHeR
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On June 16 2014 05:47 TotalBiscuit wrote: You heard it here first guys, "Narcissism" = knowing more than somebody else. All those narcissistic doctors, lawyers, plumbers, car mechanics... how dare they be more knowledgeable in a field than someone else and how dare their opinion carry more weight. Narcissism = comparing urself to doctors and lawyers while you're bashing random people on the internet. Can you stop having flame wars in every single TL thread u post in? In your expert opinion, is it really appropriate to keep doing that? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 16 2014 08:23 VasHeR wrote: Narcissism = comparing urself to doctors and lawyers while you're bashing random people on the internet. Can you stop having flame wars in every single TL thread u post in? In your expert opinion, is it really appropriate to keep doing that? I really enjoy TB's expert opinion on how not to be an insensitive idiot. Plus the people he is arguing with aren't really worth well constructed argument. The flaming is good enough for them. | ||
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Spect8rCraft
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On June 16 2014 08:23 VasHeR wrote: Narcissism = comparing urself to doctors and lawyers while you're bashing random people on the internet. Can you stop having flame wars in every single TL thread u post in? In your expert opinion, is it really appropriate to keep doing that? To be fair, this one does have an inkling of relevance to TB if you've followed the preceding events. So it is in some of his interest to take note of what occurs in this thread. (Still probably unhealthy and probably unwise for him to do so, nevertheless.) Furthermore, it's not too unfair a comparison, if you've bothered to follow the reasoning (not to mention you've selectively overlooked that he also pooled car mechanics in said comparison, unless you believe it's narcissistic to compare yourself to a car mechanic): an expert in the field had greater weight in his opinion than do others less experienced, though it is only one factor to an opinion, one that can be superceded by other factors such as other contextual facts or compelling arguments with supporting evidence. | ||
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Peters821
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Root players have been sniping him in the last 2 months. Not only sniping, but they have came into his chat and bm him. They have said things that have crossed the line. Was anything done? This is why I don't respect Root players. I have seen Root players like fayth, drewbie, caliber all guilty of that. There are probably more Root players but I can't recall the names at this time. They made it obvious they were sniping him as they were in the chat while playing Ruff. In addition, if you look at caliber's match history, 60-70% of his games were against Ruff. I don't agree with IVD's punishment. I am assuming they watch Ruff's stream. If they did, they would understand the events that pushed Ruff to lash out. The punishment is way too severe. I think a 30 day suspension would be more appropriate. I hope IVD will reconsider. Root players should be punished as well for their actions. | ||
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Doodsmack
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Skew
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Plansix
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On June 16 2014 08:37 Skew wrote: instigation w/ victim card follow-up is very effective The other option is to "take it like a man"? | ||
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Corvuuss
Austria354 Posts
On JuNe 16 2014 07:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: I don't expect people to learn anything. They never do. Well I read your arguments with the postings with a little bit of amusement, and I must say that there are some things I partly have to disagree with you. First of all, in the internet nothing counts for most of the people, neither expierience nor a scientific proven argument. Also I don't think that it is good for a person of public intrest to get into "post fights", because I think people will take you les for serious, but that's more my opinion than anything proven (hey we've got an opinion). | ||
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