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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
March 14 2014 19:45 GMT
#341
Polt always scouts... Nani lost to himself
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Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 14 2014 19:46 GMT
#342
I'm not even a Naniwa fan but I feel bad for him. Look at this mess over the past couple of days - I hope someone from Alliance at least attempted to reach out to him.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
March 14 2014 19:46 GMT
#343
As the only guy to represent the foreign players in this tournament, he sure knows how to send out an image.
I would rather not have him around.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
pikachu8090
Profile Joined October 2013
51 Posts
March 14 2014 19:46 GMT
#344
Wonder if blizzard will do something about this or just let it go
BlueDolphins
Profile Joined June 2011
18 Posts
March 14 2014 19:47 GMT
#345
Can't say I'm sad to see Naniwa go, this is such a childish move and completely unprofessional. How old is Naniwa in real life?
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
March 14 2014 19:48 GMT
#346
I dont get these exaggerated reactions. Sure he acted somehow pussy-like, but he wasnt rude or something, it was his good right to forfeit his match.

He should do something he likes in his life. Atm he has this incredible negative attitude and vibe. Give your life another direction, do something you like and witch makes you happy.
Germany
nixX3n
Profile Joined June 2011
United States122 Posts
March 14 2014 19:50 GMT
#347
Goodbye nani. Its been real watching you make an ass of yourself.
Blitz for Presidentfu
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 14 2014 19:53 GMT
#348
On March 15 2014 04:37 darkscream wrote:
TBH this isnt the first time naniwa invented some arbitrary reason why the tournament stage computers are unacceptable in some way, and he has been talking about having no passion and never practicing.

I don't blame soundproofing for him losing a game to polt with a completely amateur strategy and execution, and I really do hope we don't see any more Naniwa. He just does not seem happy to be part of the community or really care if he gets a chance to play on stage. Starcraft 2 isn't in a place where we can support obnoxious bad boys anymore.


Now that Naniwa is gone, the only people you'll be supporting are Koreans. You literally won't see another foreigner in a big tournament anymore.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
March 14 2014 19:55 GMT
#349
Well he sure knows how to go out with a bang.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 14 2014 19:56 GMT
#350
On March 15 2014 01:26 Firkraag8 wrote:
The way he went about it was inappropriate, but if he could hear the crowd then he has a legitimate reason to be upset if then also the admin wouldn't hear his side of it.
Well...what did he do that was inappropriate then? Leaving a tourny that has no legitimacy is the correct call, as is arguing with the admin about the problems. Mentioning it on live isnt really that much of an issue either, because it at the very least ensures the crowd knows exactly whats going on, right away. It's also obviously him venting in frustration, which is again fair, if his claim is true.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
March 14 2014 19:57 GMT
#351
god, the only guy who can make something up about why he lost and people actually believe it. -_-
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 14 2014 19:58 GMT
#352
On March 15 2014 04:48 azzih wrote:
I dont get these exaggerated reactions. Sure he acted somehow pussy-like, but he wasnt rude or something, it was his good right to forfeit his match.

He should do something he likes in his life. Atm he has this incredible negative attitude and vibe. Give your life another direction, do something you like and witch makes you happy.


Yes, but he knew he had lost interest going into the tournament. I'm a die hard Naniwa fan, but if the guy doesn't want to play, then don't fucking play. But don't show up and do this shit. Should have left the spot to Hasuobs if he wasn't even going to try.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 19:58 GMT
#353
On March 15 2014 04:27 LamaMitHut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 04:06 LamaMitHut wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:09 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:53 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:46 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:40 Dismay wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:39 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:32 Ansinjunger wrote:
If it's true Naniwa said he took the spot to take advantage of the hotel, that's pretty dishonest. He's shown quite a bit of disregard for fans/his fans. I don't know why people are defending him. That's not to say he's unforgivable--that goes too far, but right now, he's wronged the audience and there's no point making excuses.


I don't understand people like you. You think that you deserve something, because of what exactly? Because you seat in the front of computer watching? Who are you?

Naniwa earned whatever he had. He wanted to win and only to win. There is only one God in tournaments like that. It's the competition. Naniwa was giving all to the competition. What the hell gave you???


He certainly gave his all today.


Your memory is one-day long or what?

Pathetic crybabies in the audience need to eat today, so they will trash whoever doesn't deliver them food. It's hilarious to see people hoarding like sheep.


From one fan to another, are you actually defending Naniwa's actions today (or the last week)?


He has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing.

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


I was a fan until last week because of the contributions you talk about. He's played stunningly awesome games against a wide array of top opponents and made me scream and shout and jump with glee, but I can't support the kind of unsportsmanlike bullshit Naniwa pulled today. That makes me really sad, but it's how I - and a lot of others - feel. Naniwa is not above criticism because he has done well in the past.


wtf... you never, never, NEVER were a fan of naniwa. every true fan knows, that naniwa does not give any stinking shit about "sportsmanship" or stuff like that.


You don't decide whether or not I am or was a fan of someone, nor do you get to decide who is a "true fan" and who isn't. I was willing to look past much of the stuff Naniwa pulled because his mindset and singular devotion to becoming a champion was inspiring, but there is a limit to what I can shrug off. Naniwa may not give much of a shit about sportsmanship (although he on several occasions claimed that he had learned to), but I do. I do not have to think like Naniwa to be a fan of him.


no, i can not decide if you were a fan of naniwa or not. in my opinion "beeing a true fan" just means more than "i liked his playstyle / skill / effort".


So what does it mean to be a fan, exactly?
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
March 14 2014 19:59 GMT
#354
Nani....keeping it real. Lol, lost a lot of respect for him. But all is well, we still ahve Polt
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
Pierrot
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada53 Posts
March 14 2014 20:03 GMT
#355
On March 15 2014 04:53 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 04:37 darkscream wrote:
TBH this isnt the first time naniwa invented some arbitrary reason why the tournament stage computers are unacceptable in some way, and he has been talking about having no passion and never practicing.

I don't blame soundproofing for him losing a game to polt with a completely amateur strategy and execution, and I really do hope we don't see any more Naniwa. He just does not seem happy to be part of the community or really care if he gets a chance to play on stage. Starcraft 2 isn't in a place where we can support obnoxious bad boys anymore.


Now that Naniwa is gone, the only people you'll be supporting are Koreans. You literally won't see another foreigner in a big tournament anymore.



Did Scarlett die or something?!


Also, the people we cheered for in BW were all Korean, and that never mattered to anyone.
Yes, foreigners did compete, and Guillaume won the first OSL, but foreigners simply could not compete at that level (or chose not to) for the vast majority of BW's professional lifetime. (BW isn't dead to me, as long as we have people like Sonic, and Sayle!)

Seriously, the last time a non-korean played in Proleague was like, 2004. That did not matter.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
March 14 2014 20:04 GMT
#356
Soundproofing issues or not he's a quitter and super egocentric. He could have easily forfeited his invitation to IEM prior to the event and allowed someone else to fill in his spot. I don't buy the shit about "well he earned his right to be in the tournament so he can do whatever he wants". Give me a f**king break. It should be an honor to play in an event on a scale as large as this and if you are going into the tournament with piss poor shit attitude then he should have never attended to begin with.
JD, need I say more? :D
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
March 14 2014 20:05 GMT
#357
Geeeez teenliquid -_-

Sad Naniwa couldn't get through his issues. He was the only foreigner I ever felt had the capability to beat or dominate any player when he was on his A game. He pioneered many strategies, made wins out of absolute losses (often after completely wasting an army or something), and was really something special. He always stood out and above a player like stephano for me, no matter what the balance issues were, when his A game was up he was amazing.

Sad his childishness plagued his career, but I feel a lot of foreign pros sacrifice a lot of growing up, getting caught up in the game, practicing, and the attention that comes with it.

Anyways, he has plenty of time to try to grow up now if he feels like it, and he showed a lot of great games.

also: inb4 hearthstone transition XD
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
March 14 2014 20:05 GMT
#358
shouldn't have done it. with that said, i understand the frustration.
i like cheese
Clicker
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
March 14 2014 20:06 GMT
#359
On March 15 2014 04:22 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 04:17 dsousa wrote:
On March 15 2014 04:10 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 04:03 Naphal wrote:
i really love the reaction of the crowd, naniwa should have vacated the spot a month ago and deserves every amount of spite that now goes his way, no doubt he managed to multiply it once again!


No, I don't think it was a good reaction, cause it just gave too much attention to Naniwa ATM.

Anyway, I will copy what I wrote before to answer the second part of your message:

Naniwa has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing.

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?





I agree it was Naniwa's right to keep the spot, no doubt.

I think its <1% that Naniwa planned for this to happen, I think, deep down, he knew he couldn't beat Polt and he found a quick way out.

When was the bracket release? When Naniwa drew Polt.... thats when, subconsciously, he started looking for a way out. His behaviour then manifested his "way out".

The proxy in the first game is also an indicator of wanting to quit and get it over quick.

Naniwa knows winning is the only thing keeping him in SC2, and he wants out.



Yup. That's a good analysis. Yet people will hate him because it fits them. Naniwa is egocentric and the crowd is egocentric. Real world is not beautiful.




Fairly certain that this all started before the release of brackets.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 14 2014 20:06 GMT
#360
On March 15 2014 04:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 04:27 LamaMitHut wrote:
On March 15 2014 04:14 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 04:06 LamaMitHut wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:09 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:53 Zealously wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:46 pms wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:40 Dismay wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:39 pms wrote:
[quote]

I don't understand people like you. You think that you deserve something, because of what exactly? Because you seat in the front of computer watching? Who are you?

Naniwa earned whatever he had. He wanted to win and only to win. There is only one God in tournaments like that. It's the competition. Naniwa was giving all to the competition. What the hell gave you???


He certainly gave his all today.


Your memory is one-day long or what?

Pathetic crybabies in the audience need to eat today, so they will trash whoever doesn't deliver them food. It's hilarious to see people hoarding like sheep.


From one fan to another, are you actually defending Naniwa's actions today (or the last week)?


He has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing.

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


I was a fan until last week because of the contributions you talk about. He's played stunningly awesome games against a wide array of top opponents and made me scream and shout and jump with glee, but I can't support the kind of unsportsmanlike bullshit Naniwa pulled today. That makes me really sad, but it's how I - and a lot of others - feel. Naniwa is not above criticism because he has done well in the past.


wtf... you never, never, NEVER were a fan of naniwa. every true fan knows, that naniwa does not give any stinking shit about "sportsmanship" or stuff like that.


You don't decide whether or not I am or was a fan of someone, nor do you get to decide who is a "true fan" and who isn't. I was willing to look past much of the stuff Naniwa pulled because his mindset and singular devotion to becoming a champion was inspiring, but there is a limit to what I can shrug off. Naniwa may not give much of a shit about sportsmanship (although he on several occasions claimed that he had learned to), but I do. I do not have to think like Naniwa to be a fan of him.


no, i can not decide if you were a fan of naniwa or not. in my opinion "beeing a true fan" just means more than "i liked his playstyle / skill / effort".


So what does it mean to be a fan, exactly?

Duh you have to scream "Naniwa kun please notice meeee" in a tsundere voice in hope you grab his attention. Then hide your face if he sees you, update your status on facebook that he might like you.
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