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On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. If the LoL players aren't having issues, there's no reason sc2 players should have issues.
Let us simply ignore that no other SC2 competitor had raised any compliant regarding the situation when the inquiry took place?
And LoL players are using the same booths... with way more people watching?
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On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying.
You do realize there's a crowd that can be seen from inside the booth.
Crowds = noise.
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On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying.
or maybe he lies to save what rest of his reputation?
If all the other people that played/tested the booth didnt hear a thing, then maybe the liar is the only guy arguing otherwise?
Won't miss the guy.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 15 2014 02:46 pms wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:40 Dismay wrote:On March 15 2014 02:39 pms wrote:On March 15 2014 02:32 Ansinjunger wrote:
If it's true Naniwa said he took the spot to take advantage of the hotel, that's pretty dishonest. He's shown quite a bit of disregard for fans/his fans. I don't know why people are defending him. That's not to say he's unforgivable--that goes too far, but right now, he's wronged the audience and there's no point making excuses. I don't understand people like you. You think that you deserve something, because of what exactly? Because you seat in the front of computer watching? Who are you? Naniwa earned whatever he had. He wanted to win and only to win. There is only one God in tournaments like that. It's the competition. Naniwa was giving all to the competition. What the hell gave you??? He certainly gave his all today. Your memory is one-day long or what? Pathetic crybabies in the audience need to eat today, so they will trash whoever doesn't deliver them food. It's hilarious to see people hoarding like sheep.
From one fan to another, are you actually defending Naniwa's actions today (or the last week)?
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On March 15 2014 02:38 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:34 Skynx wrote:
Goodbye Nani, please don't come back. Gz on wasting your potential. If you dont like what you are doing (even you have potential), then there is no reason to continue.
Yeah I agree, I just think about what he was and things he promised 2 years ago. Just sad.
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I agree with Naniwa's opinion and decision. I disagree with his execution, at a minimum though this gets more people to realize how dead sc2 is becoming and how much the game needs a complete revamping equivalent if not more to that of the d3 series currently. Him acting like a dumbass is inadvertently aiding a great cause for selfish reasons. By the way the guy would not randomly complain about soundproofing for no reason and considering IEM's reputation on that being just as poor as Naniwa's PR... Think about it.
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On March 15 2014 02:53 HellNino wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying. or maybe he lies to save what rest of his reputation? If all the other people that played/tested the booth didnt hear a thing, then maybe the liar is the only guy arguing otherwise? Won't miss the guy.
He would have no way to know there was noise, unless he heard noise.
Either he is psychic or there's a soundproofing issue.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 15 2014 02:54 Damngood wrote:
I agree with Naniwa's opinion and decision. I disagree with his execution, at a minimum though this gets more people to realize how dead sc2 is becoming and how much the game needs a complete revamping equivalent if not more to that of the d3 series currently. Him acting like a dumbass is inadvertently aiding a great cause for selfish reasons. By the way the guy would not randomly complain about soundproofing for no reason and considering IEM's reputation on that being just as poor as Naniwa's PR... Think about it.
I'll get back to you when the finals break 100k viewers and we can talk about the game being 'dead'
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On March 15 2014 02:54 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:53 HellNino wrote:On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying. or maybe he lies to save what rest of his reputation? If all the other people that played/tested the booth didnt hear a thing, then maybe the liar is the only guy arguing otherwise? Won't miss the guy. He would have no way to know there was noise, unless he heard noise. Either he is psychic or there's a soundproofing issue.
LOL there's a crowd. Of course there'll be noise. It's really not that hard of a conclusion to make.
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On March 15 2014 02:54 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:53 HellNino wrote:On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying. or maybe he lies to save what rest of his reputation? If all the other people that played/tested the booth didnt hear a thing, then maybe the liar is the only guy arguing otherwise? Won't miss the guy. He would have no way to know there was noise, unless he heard noise. Either he is psychic or there's a soundproofing issue.
Or maybe he realizes that the crowd has always cheered when they see stuff like proxies from the very first SC tournaments?
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On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying.
I don't think you know how "QED" works..
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hoped this wouldnt happen, he shouldnt even have played and it should've been 3 from the qualifiers, hasu deserved that chance imo after yday.
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It's not news worthy. Bye Naniwa, don't come back.
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if it was really not soundproof and the crowd gave it away I would react like him.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On March 15 2014 02:54 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 02:53 HellNino wrote:On March 15 2014 02:51 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.
There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more. With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud. https://twitter.com/Kennigit/status/444508644294815744https://twitter.com/Kennigit/statuses/444504656551882752 Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd. So he says. There's no reason to believe he is lying. In fact if there were no soundproofing issue he would have no way to know there was noise. QED. It's impossible for him to be lying. or maybe he lies to save what rest of his reputation? If all the other people that played/tested the booth didnt hear a thing, then maybe the liar is the only guy arguing otherwise? Won't miss the guy. He would have no way to know there was noise, unless he heard noise. Either he is psychic or there's a soundproofing issue.
you realize that it's a live event, right? cmon, no need to make excuses for him. If other players complained about sound issues, then I would agree with you but he's the only one to complain. It was obvious that he was trying to just get out of IEM using that as an excuse. Pretty poor on his part.
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myabe his door was cracked open
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On March 15 2014 02:56 Smaug.GR wrote:
if it was really not soundproof and the crowd gave it away I would react like him.
The LoL players (sitting in identical booths but with larger crowds) have voiced no concerns and the other SC2 players have raised no complaints either.
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So, wait a second. If Polt's booth had no issues, was Naniwa the one playing in an imperfectly soundproofed booth and then blaming Polt's scout on the conditions in Naniwa's booth? If what Kennigit says is true, Naniwa either had no disadvantage, or he had the advantage. For all you defending his "competitor spirit", that's not what it looks like. A true competitor strives to overcome any disadvantage (like a "tryhard") and if that fails, blames the disadvantage only partly for the loss. A professional does his job first, and brings problems to supervisors later. His behaviour can't be defended with a rational argument, only blind fanboyism (undeserved in this case - he gives as much of a fuck about his fans as he does about his image as a professional).
Other players at the tourney must be stupid, and Kennigit too. Everybody but Naniwa is an idiot... I don't know how his fans can make arguments this stupid in the face of obvious bad sportsmanship. When a child does this we call it a tanturm and blame it on the child's age and/or maturity level. When a grown ass professional does this we shake our heads and palm our faces.
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