EPTOn March 08 2014 13:39 Nathanias wrote:
I think you're looking into it wayyyy too much.
I think you're looking into it wayyyy too much.
I think he is right on money. he is making perfect sense and any statement out of you is just an approval.
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trada
Germany347 Posts
I think he is right on money. he is making perfect sense and any statement out of you is just an approval. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
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On March 08 2014 15:28 TRaFFiC wrote: what? Not even close Id say. though you bring up some interesting questions. Activision-Blizzard isn't a billion dollar company? Whoever is in their legal department isn't doing their jobs or they just didn't care about these scenarios. This makes Blizzard look unprofessional moreso than NASL. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On March 08 2014 15:37 TeslasPigeon wrote: Activision-Blizzard isn't a billion dollar company? Whoever is in their legal department isn't doing their jobs or they just didn't care about these scenarios. This makes Blizzard look unprofessional moreso than NASL. You can look up their quarterly reports online and see for yourself. http://investor.activision.com/reports.cfm On their balance sheet, it shows 14 million in Assets. I wish I could deduce more, but only took beginner accounting. Its easy to nit pick when youre not running the show. I wouldnt make such conclusions without evidence. | ||
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bbkDRAGOON
United States20 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Meepman
Canada610 Posts
On March 08 2014 15:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Godspeed, NASL sound guy The only important post in this whole thread. I'm still surprised at how out-of-nowhere this came D: . | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On March 08 2014 15:45 TRaFFiC wrote: You can look up their quarterly reports online and see for yourself. http://investor.activision.com/reports.cfm On their balance sheet, it shows 14 million in Assets. I wish I could deduce more, but only took beginner accounting. Its easy to nit pick when youre not running the show. I wouldnt make such conclusions without evidence. Going by wiki it's 14 billion with an annual revenue of ~5 billion. I'm guessing you misread the thousands of millions on the paper. But this is besides the point, the only thing we can infer from this thread is that Blizzard doesn't offer the support to these organizations that we think we do. TB stated a few pages ago that NASL was the company that would be paying the flights for his players not Blizzard. Paying international round trip flights for ~16ish people to America is expensive. NASL probably paid around $75,000-$100,000 per year (3 WCS events), this is just one expense for a company that always struggled to stay afloat and secure monetary support (which obviously they don't have or else this crisis would be happening). The only question we should be asking is what monetary support is Blizzard actually providing? If it's just prize pool money I can easily see how it hurts these organizations financially. This isn't nitpicking this is trying to figure out why this happened. I hardly doubt Slasher will find anything substantial and if he does I doubt he would say anything that hurts the image of either these organizations. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
Is NASL not owned by Hero Entertainment or whatever production company, are they going under as well? Closing down with such short notice (im guessing) and Bitter jumping the ship Rotterdam must have known about it or was protected by people. Can't wait for someone to get the details because honestly this announcement doesn't do NASL enough justice. Edit: And look who's getting a 2nd chance, don't fuck it up MLG. (talking about next season since I can't see ESL actually doing a full on season from their studio at such a time) | ||
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dbssaber
United States193 Posts
Also I'm really going to miss going to the WCS NA finals live. | ||
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thezanursic
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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b0lt
United States790 Posts
On March 08 2014 15:45 TRaFFiC wrote: You can look up their quarterly reports online and see for yourself. http://investor.activision.com/reports.cfm On their balance sheet, it shows 14 million in Assets. I wish I could deduce more, but only took beginner accounting. Its easy to nit pick when youre not running the show. I wouldnt make such conclusions without evidence. ... Their balance sheets shows $14 thousand million in assets. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On March 08 2014 16:10 TeslasPigeon wrote: Going by wiki it's 14 billion with an annual revenue of ~5 billion. I'm guessing you misread the thousands of millions on the paper. But this is besides the point, the only thing we can infer from this thread is that Blizzard doesn't offer the support to these organizations that we think we do. TB stated a few pages ago that NASL was the company that would be paying the flights for his players not Blizzard. Paying international round trip flights for ~16ish people to America is expensive. NASL probably paid around $75,000-$100,000 per year (3 WCS events), this is just one expense for a company that always struggled to stay afloat and secure monetary support (which obviously they don't have or else this crisis would be happening). The only question we should be asking is what monetary support is Blizzard actually providing? If it's just prize pool money I can easily see how it hurts these organizations financially. This isn't nitpicking this is trying to figure out why this happened. I hardly doubt Slasher will find anything substantial and if he does I doubt he would say anything that hurts the image of either these organizations. I wouldnt just assume blizzard has the resources to fix everyones problems, though I would be interested to know what arrangement they had. | ||
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
WoT season is ending. With political troubles over in Ukraine/Russia and WoT not soo much gaining track in NA, they may lose /have lost that source of income. Operating alone on SC2, and losing their main guy to run operation (Bitter) leaves HeroLevel is a very bad spot. Dropping it all then is logical. They either will come out with a Titanfall show, or have to dissolve the production company. | ||
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Ej_
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
NASL recently informed Blizzard that it would be unable to honor its commitment to operate the WCS America Season 1 competition. But if I go to their website, the only thing I see is StarCraft. I guess they're fully switching to Wot/picking up other games? Or maybe they're going down? I hate it when they don't give a reason. Alas, fate has scouted our fast expand, and our time broadcasting StarCraft has come to an end. To all of our partners, sponsors, friends, and especially our fans, thank you. Oh C'mon... | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Nath-erdam might be a good combo, who knows, best of luck to both of them and ESL and WCS NA and god bless 'murica | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On March 08 2014 13:35 Plexa wrote: Blizzard as an organiser will probably suffer a number of problems that NASL and MLG experienced while running the event. Simply put, they're not in a position where they're capable of turning out a professional level product before Season 2. A lot of that comes with experience and really only ESL and Redbull have that at the moment. Since both orgs. running WCS AM have given it up, and with viewership less than other regions it's within reason to assume that its just a money sink right now. Consolidation including regional quotas as under the current system would still protect rising talent and unite viewership under a single event. The question is what about the casting schedule. Many EU viewers cannot really watch AM live and vice versa. | ||
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