EPTDavid Kim should have a section on map balance in each of his Balance Note posts.
MC's thoughts on current balance whining - Page 8
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
David Kim should have a section on map balance in each of his Balance Note posts. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:59 aTnClouD wrote: MC has been only all ining since the beginning of SC2 and was never able to play as well as any other korean progamer in longer games. He never stood in the right place to comment about the game because all he did so far was abusing incredibly game breaking mechanics, like forcefield and warpgates all ins. He does it with incredible mastery and unit control, but he still misses a huge part of the game because he simply does not play past early or mid game. I understand where he is coming from but his opinion about balance never had much value to begin with. There are way better progamers who strongly disagree with him. Yea Diestar's opinion is worth more because he plays macro games unlike the cheesy MC! | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Damngood
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On February 16 2014 06:20 illidanx wrote: A protoss player defended protoss. I'm not saying protoss is imba or anything, just the fact that he is protoss make the credibility of what he said go to zero. Nailed it. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Using logical fallacy to ignore MC's point shows how weak the anti-MC comments are. MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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Waise
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On February 16 2014 11:13 Parcelleus wrote: Im so unsurprised by the whine responses here. Using logical fallacy to ignore MC's point shows how weak the anti-MC comments are. MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD i like how you claimed "logical fallacy" without actually quoting any posts or providing any counterpoints ironically you're doing the same thing MC is - writing off people's opinions as "whining" because you're too lazy to actually engage in a mature, two-way discussion | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On February 16 2014 11:19 Waise wrote: i like how you claimed "logical fallacy" without actually quoting any posts or providing any counterpoints ironically you're doing the same thing MC is - writing off people's opinions as "whining" because you're too lazy to actually engage in a mature, two-way discussion Whine it up. What is your actual argument against MC's post ? | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On February 16 2014 11:22 Parcelleus wrote: Whine it up. What is your actual argument against MC's post ? If you read the OP, you would see that this thread has no balance discussion allowed.. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On February 16 2014 11:24 JacobShock wrote: If you read the OP, you would see that this thread has no balance discussion allowed.. Thats fine, the question remains. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On February 15 2014 23:49 Teoita wrote: Yep it's 50%, and in fact Zerg and Protoss are in fact even at the top (code S distribution). It's just that the infamous "vocal minority" of the community has devolved into endless whining and screaming at every possible reason, wether that's justified or not, like never before. It's quite saddening honestly. The reason the whine happens is because blizz fucked up the MU so hard. I played a game the other day where I(zerg) was on 4 base against 2 for the protoss on habitation (one was gold). So he turtles until he gets a voidray immortal collosus deathball with sentry and stalker sprinkled in. I had made hydra to deal with the voidrays initially, then made 10-15 spines along with being maxed on hydra roach with some lings. So he trots out of his base, stomps my spines and whole army then runs through my corruptor roach max that was rallying out to meet his army. I can't even begin to describe how frustrating it is to have this happen, something that would never happen in BW or Starbow. Now, I know I could have killed my own units to make shit hosts and maybe defend, but I really shouldn't have to. I imagine it is equally frustrating for protoss to have everything yanked into endless waves of locusts when the zerg is on 2 base and the toss is on 4 and still lose. These situations are why people are complaining, they just think it's somehow a balance issue when it's actually just a huge game flaw. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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AxiomBlurr
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If people think Toss are sooo easy to grand master - try it. Toss is not an easy race - sure 4gate can get you to diamond, but so can proxy rax and 10 pools. (Awaiting hate on that comment) There is also something happening at the moment that the cry babies and Blizzard may not have noticed or believed was possible...Terrans are evolving. IEM Cologne is a good point in case. Note: Twitch chat is cancerous, disgusting, bigoted, racist, elitist and the height of puerility. Avoid at all costs. Much love to SC2 and the people appreciating the game and skill of the players - peace. | ||
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DjRetro
Chile309 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On February 16 2014 06:20 illidanx wrote: A protoss player defended protoss. I'm not saying protoss is imba or anything, just the fact that he is protoss make the credibility of what he said go to zero. But a Terran player saying Terran is too weak is totally fair! I prefer not to read into pro players comments much because they have a vested, monetary interest in the game. If Protoss is weaker, it's harder for him to win and succeed. Same goes for literally any pro player who talks about balance. Stats and factual evidence will always be infinitely more useful than any pro players opinion. | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
what? so i guess you think that ALL Terrans cant comment on the PvT matchup either then since they would also be biased towards their own race? all Protoss and terrans have zero credibility in their own matchup? that leaves what... Zerg players are the only ones that can have credible and useful, valid, and unbiased comments about PvT?? | ||
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
On February 16 2014 14:16 mikumegurine wrote: some of you say MC is protoss so that automatically invalidates his arguments since he is biased towards his own race? what? so i guess you think that ALL Terrans cant comment on the PvT matchup either then since they would also be biased towards their own race? all Protoss and terrans have zero credibility in their own matchup? that leaves what... Zerg players are the only ones that can have credible and useful, valid, and unbiased comments about PvT?? Or the viewers. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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