The BossToss himself gave his thoughts, I found this on Reddit and think that MC has a good point about map inbalance instead of certain matchups (PvT in general).
All credit goes to Semmo_ as he translated and posted it.
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Source: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4823530&search=3&search_pos=&q=
ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ ํ๋ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋๊ธ์ด ๋ง์์ ์ฌ๋ ค๋ด ๋๋ค
I'm posting this because I see too many people saying that Protoss is imba.
ํ๋กํ ์ค vs ์ ๊ทธ = 5:5 ์ด๊ฑด ์ง์ง 5:5์ ๋๋ค ๋งตํ์ด๊ณ ๋ญ๊ณ ๋ค ๋นผ๊ณ
PvZ = 50/50. Really 50/50. Don't blame maps or whatever...
์ง๋์ฌ๋์ด ๋ชปํ๋๊ฒ๋๋ค ์ง์ง ์ง๊ธ ์ง์ง๋๋ ์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์์ฌ๋์๋๊ฑฐ์
The worse player loses. Zergs that whine really don't have any shame.
ํ๋กํ ์ค vs ํ ๋ = ์ ํํ ์ ์ด ๋ฒจ๋ถ๋์ง ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด๊ฒ์ ์ง์ง ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค์์ผ๋ก ์๋ฌด ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์?
PvT = I'll tell you why PvT is so imbalanced. In terms of game balance, there's no problem, right?
๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ง๊ธ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ๋งต ๋๋๋งต์ด ํํ ์ ์์ ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ 7:3์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ฆฌํฉ๋๋ค ์ง์ง ํ ๋์ด ์์ธํ ์ ๋๋ก
But in ladder maps Protoss is 70/30 vs Terran. It's really depressing for Terran.
์๋? ์ ๋ฉธ์ถ์ ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๋งต์ด 4๊ฐ๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ ๋ค์ด๋ฌ๋ก์ค ํค๋น๋ ์ธ ์ฐ์ ํด๋ผ๋์ดํธ
Why? It's because we have 4 maps where Blink Stalkers are very strong in. Daedalus, Heavy Rain, Yeonsu, Polar Night
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ํ ๋ ์ข์ ์ํฐ์ง๊น์ง ์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ ํ ๋์ ๊ฐํ๋งต๋ค ํฌ์ฑ
After that we have Alterzim which is one of the most favorable map for Protoss vs Terran.
๊ทธ๋๋ง 5:5์ธ ํ๋ก์คํธ์์ ํ ๋๋ค ์น๋ฅ ์ด ๊ด์ฐฎ์ต๋๋ค
If you look at Frost, it's 50/50. Terran have an ok time on this map.
์ด๊ฑด ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์คํ์ด์๋๋ผ ๋งต์ด ํ ์ค๋ํ ๋์์ ํ ์ค๊ฐ ๋๋ฌด ์ข์๋ฟ์ด๊ณ
This is not about game balance, the maps for PvT is just too good for Protoss
์ ๊น์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋ณ๋๋์ด๋ค ๋ง์ธ๋๋์ด๋ค ํ๋ฒ ๋๋๋นํ๋ฉด ํ ๊ธฐ์ธ๋ ํํ ์ ์ด ๋๊ฐ์ง๊ฐ ๋ํ ๋นํ๋ฉด์
Before, Hellbat Drops and Mine Drops that swayed the game in PvT both got nerfed.
ํ ์ค๊ฐ ๋ฌด๋ํ๊ฒ ํ๋ฌ๊ฐ ์น๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ด ์๋ ์ด๋ ์ง๊ธ์ด๋ ๋ณ๋ฐ ๋ค๋ฅผ๊ป ์์ต๋๋ค.
Now games where protoss easily masses up the composition without deterrence is pretty similar like WoL.
์ง์ง ํ๋ก๋์ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค ์ง์ง ์ด๋ฐ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์ด ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ๋๋๊ณ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง์์๋๋ฐ
I really didn't want to talk about balance whine because I'm a pro player, but
ํ๋กํ ์ค ๊ฒ์ด๋จธ๋ค์ ๋ญ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ๋์ํ๊ณ ์ข ๋นจ๋ก ๋งจ๋ ์ด๊ธฐ๋๊ฑฐ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ๊ธฐํ๋๊น
People are saying that protoss players don't even try hard and win due to the race
๋ด๊ฐ ์ ๋ฐฐ์ ์ฅ์ผ๋ก์จ ์ ๋ค์ด ์ํ๊น๊ณ ๋ถํต์ด ํฐ์ ธ์ ์ ์ด๋ด ๋๋ค
As a veteran, I feel bad for players that get all the hate and feel angry about it.
์ค๋ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ฑ์ฑ ์กฐ์ฑํธ๋ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ๋ด๋ด ๋๋ค๊ฐ ํํฌ์ณ์ 16๊ฐ ๋ด๊ฒ๋ ์๋๊ณ
Zest and Trap didn't go to ro16 after they were fooling around for a week.
๋๊ตฌ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ธ๋ ฅ ๋ง์ดํ์์๋์๋๋ฐ ๋ฌด์จ ์ข ๋นจ์ด๋ ์ด์ฉ๋๋ก ์ ์๋ ํํ ์ํ์ จ์ ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค
They probably worked very hard. So please stop saying that it's "the power of protoss".
์ ๊ฐ ๋ณผ๋ ์ค๋ ๋ ํ ์ค๋ ์ ๋ง Well play ์ํด์ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ๊ฑฐ๊ณ ํ๋ก๊ฒ์ด๋จธ๋ก์จ ๋น๋ ์ ๋ต ์ด์ ๋ค ์ ๋ฐฐ์ ์ต๋๋ค
In my eyes, the two Tosses played well and that's why they went through. As progamers they really learnt builds and strategies well.
๊ธ๊ณ ๊ด์๊ณผ์ถฉ์ ๋ํํ๋ผ๋ ๊ธ์ด ๋ง์ด ๋ณด์ด๋๋ฐ ๊ด์๊ณผ ๋ํํ๋ฉด ์ ๊ทธ ํ ๋๋ณด๋ค ํํ์ ์ด ์ฐจ๊ดํ๋ฉ๋๋ค.
Also I see a lot of talk about nerfing Photon Overcharge but if we nerf that PvP gets fucked.
DK๋๋ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์๊ณ ๋ํ๋ชปํ๋๊ฑฐ๊ตฌ์ ์๊ฐ์๊ณก์ 75๋ง๋์ ๋นํด ๋๋ฌด ์ข์์ ์ ๋ ๋ํ ์๋์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
DK-nim also knows this and this is why he isn't nerfing it. Time Warp was a good ability for only 75 energy and I'm glad it got nerfed.
ํ๋ฒ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ฑํจ์น์์ด ๋งต๋ง ๋ฐ๋์ด๋ ํํ ์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ 5:5๋ฉ๋๋ค.
With no balancing, just a change of maps will bring a 50/50 in PvT.
์์งํ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค๋ณด๋ค ๋งต๋๋ฌธ์ ํ ๋์ด 3๋ช ์ฌ๋ผ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
I think it was maps why only 3 terrans came up.
ํ๋ฒ ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด์ธ์ ์ ์์ฆ์๋ ๋๊ฐ์ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ฑ์ด์๋๋ฐ ๋งต๋ฐ๋๊ธฐ์ ์ ํ ๋์ด ํ ์ค์๊ฒ ์ฝ์ธ์๋์ง๋ฅผ
Think about it, last season had the same balancing, but before the map changes was terran really that bad against Protoss?
ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ ํ๋ ์ฌ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋๊ธ์ด ๋ง์์ ์ฌ๋ ค๋ด ๋๋ค
I'm posting this because I see too many people saying that Protoss is imba.
ํ๋กํ ์ค vs ์ ๊ทธ = 5:5 ์ด๊ฑด ์ง์ง 5:5์ ๋๋ค ๋งตํ์ด๊ณ ๋ญ๊ณ ๋ค ๋นผ๊ณ
PvZ = 50/50. Really 50/50. Don't blame maps or whatever...
์ง๋์ฌ๋์ด ๋ชปํ๋๊ฒ๋๋ค ์ง์ง ์ง๊ธ ์ง์ง๋๋ ์ ๊ทธ๋ค์ ์์ฌ๋์๋๊ฑฐ์
The worse player loses. Zergs that whine really don't have any shame.
ํ๋กํ ์ค vs ํ ๋ = ์ ํํ ์ ์ด ๋ฒจ๋ถ๋์ง ์ด์ ๋ฅผ ๋ง์๋๋ฆด๊ฒ์ ์ง์ง ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค์์ผ๋ก ์๋ฌด ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์?
PvT = I'll tell you why PvT is so imbalanced. In terms of game balance, there's no problem, right?
๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ง๊ธ ๋ฆฌ๊ทธ๋งต ๋๋๋งต์ด ํํ ์ ์์ ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ 7:3์ผ๋ก ์ ๋ฆฌํฉ๋๋ค ์ง์ง ํ ๋์ด ์์ธํ ์ ๋๋ก
But in ladder maps Protoss is 70/30 vs Terran. It's really depressing for Terran.
์๋? ์ ๋ฉธ์ถ์ ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋ ฅํ๋งต์ด 4๊ฐ๋์๊ธฐ ๋๋ฌธ ๋ค์ด๋ฌ๋ก์ค ํค๋น๋ ์ธ ์ฐ์ ํด๋ผ๋์ดํธ
Why? It's because we have 4 maps where Blink Stalkers are very strong in. Daedalus, Heavy Rain, Yeonsu, Polar Night
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ํ ๋ ์ข์ ์ํฐ์ง๊น์ง ์ญ๋ ์ต๊ณ ํ๋กํ ์ค๊ฐ ํ ๋์ ๊ฐํ๋งต๋ค ํฌ์ฑ
After that we have Alterzim which is one of the most favorable map for Protoss vs Terran.
๊ทธ๋๋ง 5:5์ธ ํ๋ก์คํธ์์ ํ ๋๋ค ์น๋ฅ ์ด ๊ด์ฐฎ์ต๋๋ค
If you look at Frost, it's 50/50. Terran have an ok time on this map.
์ด๊ฑด ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์คํ์ด์๋๋ผ ๋งต์ด ํ ์ค๋ํ ๋์์ ํ ์ค๊ฐ ๋๋ฌด ์ข์๋ฟ์ด๊ณ
This is not about game balance, the maps for PvT is just too good for Protoss
์ ๊น์ง ๊ธฐ๊ฐ๋ณ๋๋์ด๋ค ๋ง์ธ๋๋์ด๋ค ํ๋ฒ ๋๋๋นํ๋ฉด ํ ๊ธฐ์ธ๋ ํํ ์ ์ด ๋๊ฐ์ง๊ฐ ๋ํ ๋นํ๋ฉด์
Before, Hellbat Drops and Mine Drops that swayed the game in PvT both got nerfed.
ํ ์ค๊ฐ ๋ฌด๋ํ๊ฒ ํ๋ฌ๊ฐ ์น๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ๋ ๋ชจ์ต์ด ์๋ ์ด๋ ์ง๊ธ์ด๋ ๋ณ๋ฐ ๋ค๋ฅผ๊ป ์์ต๋๋ค.
Now games where protoss easily masses up the composition without deterrence is pretty similar like WoL.
์ง์ง ํ๋ก๋์ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค ์ง์ง ์ด๋ฐ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์ด ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ๋๋๊ณ ํ๊ณ ์ถ์ง์์๋๋ฐ
I really didn't want to talk about balance whine because I'm a pro player, but
ํ๋กํ ์ค ๊ฒ์ด๋จธ๋ค์ ๋ญ ๋ ธ๋ ฅ๋์ํ๊ณ ์ข ๋นจ๋ก ๋งจ๋ ์ด๊ธฐ๋๊ฑฐ์ฒ๋ผ ์ ๊ธฐํ๋๊น
People are saying that protoss players don't even try hard and win due to the race
๋ด๊ฐ ์ ๋ฐฐ์ ์ฅ์ผ๋ก์จ ์ ๋ค์ด ์ํ๊น๊ณ ๋ถํต์ด ํฐ์ ธ์ ์ ์ด๋ด ๋๋ค
As a veteran, I feel bad for players that get all the hate and feel angry about it.
์ค๋ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ ์ฃผ์ฑ์ฑ ์กฐ์ฑํธ๋ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ๋ด๋ด ๋๋ค๊ฐ ํํฌ์ณ์ 16๊ฐ ๋ด๊ฒ๋ ์๋๊ณ
Zest and Trap didn't go to ro16 after they were fooling around for a week.
๋๊ตฌ๋ณด๋ค ๋ ธ๋ ฅ ๋ง์ดํ์์๋์๋๋ฐ ๋ฌด์จ ์ข ๋นจ์ด๋ ์ด์ฉ๋๋ก ์ ์๋ ํํ ์ํ์ จ์ ์ข๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค
They probably worked very hard. So please stop saying that it's "the power of protoss".
์ ๊ฐ ๋ณผ๋ ์ค๋ ๋ ํ ์ค๋ ์ ๋ง Well play ์ํด์ ์ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ๊ฑฐ๊ณ ํ๋ก๊ฒ์ด๋จธ๋ก์จ ๋น๋ ์ ๋ต ์ด์ ๋ค ์ ๋ฐฐ์ ์ต๋๋ค
In my eyes, the two Tosses played well and that's why they went through. As progamers they really learnt builds and strategies well.
๊ธ๊ณ ๊ด์๊ณผ์ถฉ์ ๋ํํ๋ผ๋ ๊ธ์ด ๋ง์ด ๋ณด์ด๋๋ฐ ๊ด์๊ณผ ๋ํํ๋ฉด ์ ๊ทธ ํ ๋๋ณด๋ค ํํ์ ์ด ์ฐจ๊ดํ๋ฉ๋๋ค.
Also I see a lot of talk about nerfing Photon Overcharge but if we nerf that PvP gets fucked.
DK๋๋ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์๊ณ ๋ํ๋ชปํ๋๊ฑฐ๊ตฌ์ ์๊ฐ์๊ณก์ 75๋ง๋์ ๋นํด ๋๋ฌด ์ข์์ ์ ๋ ๋ํ ์๋์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
DK-nim also knows this and this is why he isn't nerfing it. Time Warp was a good ability for only 75 energy and I'm glad it got nerfed.
ํ๋ฒ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ฑํจ์น์์ด ๋งต๋ง ๋ฐ๋์ด๋ ํํ ์ ์ถฉ๋ถํ 5:5๋ฉ๋๋ค.
With no balancing, just a change of maps will bring a 50/50 in PvT.
์์งํ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ค๋ณด๋ค ๋งต๋๋ฌธ์ ํ ๋์ด 3๋ช ์ฌ๋ผ์๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
I think it was maps why only 3 terrans came up.
ํ๋ฒ ์ ์๊ฐํด๋ณด์ธ์ ์ ์์ฆ์๋ ๋๊ฐ์ ๋ฐธ๋ฐ์ฑ์ด์๋๋ฐ ๋งต๋ฐ๋๊ธฐ์ ์ ํ ๋์ด ํ ์ค์๊ฒ ์ฝ์ธ์๋์ง๋ฅผ
Think about it, last season had the same balancing, but before the map changes was terran really that bad against Protoss?
Only give your thoughts on what MC has to say, take your balance whining to the Blizzard forums and/or appropriate threads.
