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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 22:35:36
January 09 2014 22:28 GMT
#1
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Once StarCraft II Patch 2.1 is in your hands, you’ll find a number of exciting new leveling rewards to help customize your look on Battle.net and in-game. We’re also happy to share that we’ve increased the level cap for each race from 30 to 35 so that those of you who are hungry for more out-of-game progression can get your fix with a six-course meal of new portraits and decals.



New Leveling Rewards

We’ve seen the immense amount of support and enthusiasm that many of you share for the animated “StarCrafts” series, created by Jonathan Burton of Carbot Animations, and we’ve also heard your requests to see more of his content added to StarCraft II. Jonathan visited Blizzard HQ a short time before BlizzCon 2013 and while he was here, we asked him to draw up a few new portraits and decals that we could offer to you in-game. Let’s take a look at the awesome artwork he put together to make this happen.

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As you can see above, we’ve got a Carbot-themed portrait and decal for each race, meaning there’s a total of six brand new rewards waiting for you with Patch 2.1. All you’ll have to do to earn them is play games of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm to gain XP and level up. Achieving levels 32 and 35 with Protoss, Terran, or Zerg will respectively award you with the decal and portrait specific to that race. Reach level 35 with each of the three races to collect them all!



First Win of the Day

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Alongside the new rewards and increased level cap, we’ve also quadrupled the amount of XP you’ll earn with “First Win of the Day” XP bonuses. Following the patch, your first win of the day with each race will award 100,000 XP so that you can pack even more punch into your StarCraft II play sessions.

We’re always looking for new ways to make leveling in StarCraft II an even more fun and rewarding experience, so we hope you enjoy these “StarCrafts”-themed portraits and decals once we release Patch 2.1. If you haven’t had the chance to check out an episode of StarCrafts yet, or just can’t get enough of Jonathan’s work, you can head to the official Carbot Animations YouTube channel and CarbotAnimations.com to stay up to date with all the latest releases.

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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 09 2014 22:30 GMT
#2
Nice job :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 09 2014 22:37 GMT
#3
I like the first win of the day thing!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Ravomat
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 22:39:06
January 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#4
Solid additions. Exactly what the game needs.

Hope there will be a way to disable those decals.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#5
Protoss is the first race on both the pictures and they use protoss for win of the day blizzard bias confirmed + Show Spoiler +
This is some pretty obvious sarcasm <3
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
January 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#6
first win of the day thing is def a good way to get people to at least put in a few every day, just wish the levels were harder to get so that people wouldn't max level in 1 week lol
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
January 09 2014 22:39 GMT
#7
Finally.
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synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
January 09 2014 22:48 GMT
#8
So.... is that all?
I mean, aren't there some other very *cough* *cough* important things to address *cough *cough* ?
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
January 09 2014 22:49 GMT
#9
so... portraits?

lol
The universe created an audience for itself.
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
January 09 2014 23:04 GMT
#10
Huge patch so far :S
"Who has the best durability feat in all of comic book superheroes?" "Aquaman surviving pop culture."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 09 2014 23:08 GMT
#11
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
January 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#12
I hate to be so negative, but who really cares about having a level cap increase from 30 to 35? it's not like we're earning customizable paint schemes for our units, and this isn't an MMO. XP and a leveling system just feels totally unnecessary on the grand scale of things that the community wants Blizzard to work on.
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
January 09 2014 23:11 GMT
#13
nice preview i'm so excited guys, can't handle all this emotion
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 09 2014 23:21 GMT
#14
On January 10 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.

Patch 2.1 is really the weakest client-patch of all patches that we had.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
January 09 2014 23:32 GMT
#15
What? and what happened to the Clan decals/logos & the new Mods system???
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 09 2014 23:39 GMT
#16
not really a patch. But I do like dem portraits!
EkiTh
Profile Joined January 2011
France12 Posts
January 09 2014 23:41 GMT
#17
Thought it was a joke !
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
January 09 2014 23:45 GMT
#18
On January 10 2014 08:32 Uvantak wrote:
What? and what happened to the Clan decals/logos & the new Mods system???

They're still coming in 2.1. This preview was only for a couple of the more minor features in the patch. Everything being tested in the PTR should be released, plus it's a big deal that all custom maps and Arcade will be f2p once the patch goes live.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
January 09 2014 23:48 GMT
#19
On January 10 2014 08:21 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.

Patch 2.1 is really the weakest client-patch of all patches that we had.


You guys are aware this is not a full list of changes, right? They've mentioned earlier that they will be doing all kinds of additional changes like re-introducing SC1 music and changing ladder parameters so the leagues are distributed differently, etc.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
January 10 2014 00:01 GMT
#20
On January 10 2014 08:45 Nerevar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 08:32 Uvantak wrote:
What? and what happened to the Clan decals/logos & the new Mods system???

They're still coming in 2.1. This preview was only for a couple of the more minor features in the patch. Everything being tested in the PTR should be released, plus it's a big deal that all custom maps and Arcade will be f2p once the patch goes live.

Yeah, i got scared there for a moment! i'm terribly exited by the Mod thingy and the f2p arcade ^^
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 00:14:39
January 10 2014 00:12 GMT
#21
On January 10 2014 08:48 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 08:21 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.

Patch 2.1 is really the weakest client-patch of all patches that we had.


You guys are aware this is not a full list of changes, right? They've mentioned earlier that they will be doing all kinds of additional changes like re-introducing SC1 music and changing ladder parameters so the leagues are distributed differently, etc.

What we get with 2.1:
• Calendar
• 3 carbot portraits/decals
• BW music
• extensions
• decals
• F2P SC2 without 1v1 and campaign

Compare please to 1.5 and 2.0 patches.

Is it that hard to draw 10-30 more new decals, add 100 new levels and keep casual player-base in the game for a longer time?
Is it that hard to do story DLC which will add more missions to campaign with planets conquering by Broodmothers?
Is it that hard to release more agressive testing with more balance testing maps?
Is it that hard to add gamemodes with achievements? Or just make them from leveling?
Is it that hard to add new backgrounds for menu?

Answer to all of those questions - no, it's easier to make Heroes-MOBA with Kerrigan riding on the pony.

Last time I have feeling that SC2 team is just one programmer, that doing entire job. So slow, so few, so weak...
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
January 10 2014 00:30 GMT
#22
On January 10 2014 09:12 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 08:48 RaZorwire wrote:
On January 10 2014 08:21 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.

Patch 2.1 is really the weakest client-patch of all patches that we had.


You guys are aware this is not a full list of changes, right? They've mentioned earlier that they will be doing all kinds of additional changes like re-introducing SC1 music and changing ladder parameters so the leagues are distributed differently, etc.

What we get with 2.1:
• Calendar
• 3 carbot portraits/decals
• BW music
• extensions
• decals
• F2P SC2 without 1v1 and campaign

Compare please to 1.5 and 2.0 patches.

Is it that hard to draw 10-30 more new decals, add 100 new levels and keep casual player-base in the game for a longer time?
Is it that hard to do story DLC which will add more missions to campaign with planets conquering by Broodmothers?
Is it that hard to release more agressive testing with more balance testing maps?
Is it that hard to add gamemodes with achievements? Or just make them from leveling?
Is it that hard to add new backgrounds for menu?

Answer to all of those questions - no, it's easier to make Heroes-MOBA with Kerrigan riding on the pony.

Last time I have feeling that SC2 team is just one programmer, that doing entire job. So slow, so few, so weak...


I'm not sure what your point is...? I never contested that this patch had less content than the last one, I was just pointing out that the list of changes in the OP is not complete since a few people seemed to be confused by it.
archangel98632
Profile Joined June 2010
United States24 Posts
January 10 2014 00:36 GMT
#23
SQUEEEEE!!! Carbot Ling!
But seriously, nice to see Blizzard continuing to keep an ear on the community. Sure we can always ask for more "important" changes (no whining, no whining) but I think anyone can agree that these proposed changes are not "bad".
Thank you Blizzard!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
January 10 2014 00:41 GMT
#24
I don't get why people are so excited about these XP and levels things... doesn't mean anything at all and we had nothing like that in BW and nobody ever complained. I'll never understand the new generation of gamers but oh well if it can please some, why not?
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2014 00:43 GMT
#25
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 10 2014 00:45 GMT
#26
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

great idea! i have to switch servers to play another race or i need to switch to wol atm, so i really would appreciate that
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2014 00:46 GMT
#27
On January 10 2014 09:41 sM.Zik wrote:
I don't get why people are so excited about these XP and levels things... doesn't mean anything at all and we had nothing like that in BW and nobody ever complained. I'll never understand the new generation of gamers but oh well if it can please some, why not?


I don't think this is something about the new generation of gamers, but more like general human psychology. The same trick has been used since ages in those types of coupons where collect stamps, stickers or points and get a rewards once you accumulated enough of them.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2014 00:49 GMT
#28
On January 10 2014 09:45 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

great idea! i have to switch servers to play another race or i need to switch to wol atm, so i really would appreciate that


As it is now, I think unranked games have a seperate MMR, so you can use that to play offrace. Ofc that won't change the fact that the starting MMR is probably that of your ladder and you'll probably lose a lot of games in the beginning, but it has to start somewhere...
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 01:08:19
January 10 2014 00:50 GMT
#29
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 10 2014 01:01 GMT
#30
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.

you do realize that us and na is the same server?
not sure if you ever played sc2, because if so you would know that on half of the servers you get huge delays, no matter where you play from.
the unranked thing is true though if you get a place in a real league it's much more fun to play a game because you can get promoted and get points = much more motivation to play.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 10 2014 01:12 GMT
#31
On January 10 2014 10:01 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.

you do realize that us and na is the same server?
not sure if you ever played sc2, because if so you would know that on half of the servers you get huge delays, no matter where you play from.
the unranked thing is true though if you get a place in a real league it's much more fun to play a game because you can get promoted and get points = much more motivation to play.

I remember 4 servers in the options. Ah, it was Asia.

Also it's just maxium MMRs you may have. You don't need all of them. Probably 2-4 is enought (aka 1-2 servers).

I think, that unranked play is more than enough for you to practice other race. Also there are tons of tutorials as all three races and vsAI games also, which is also a great way to start learn new race from easy enemies that become harder and harder, and you may see that progression and control it.

Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 10 2014 01:18 GMT
#32
Some nice portraits, will have to actually finishing leveling my off races up now.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 10 2014 01:20 GMT
#33
On January 10 2014 10:12 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 10:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.

you do realize that us and na is the same server?
not sure if you ever played sc2, because if so you would know that on half of the servers you get huge delays, no matter where you play from.
the unranked thing is true though if you get a place in a real league it's much more fun to play a game because you can get promoted and get points = much more motivation to play.

I remember 4 servers in the options. Ah, it was Asia.

Also it's just maxium MMRs you may have. You don't need all of them. Probably 2-4 is enought (aka 1-2 servers).

I think, that unranked play is more than enough for you to practice other race. Also there are tons of tutorials as all three races and vsAI games also, which is also a great way to start learn new race from easy enemies that become harder and harder, and you may see that progression and control it.


AI can help you get basic mechanics down, but you are going to lose sooo many games against random stuff simply by7 being unfamiliar with the match up - you need to play at your own level or you'll just lose to silly things and get frustrated.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
January 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#34
This is actually a big deal. I wish people wouldn't have sticks up their ass about it.

1. They've showed a willingness to extend a hand out to successful community contributors. This gives incentive for contributors to keep contributing and for non-contributors to contribute. It keeps the community active and involved. This is incredibly important to sustaining a game's popularity and its viability as an e-sport.

2. Levels are actually a big deal. I have a lot of friends that leveled to 90 and then basically stopped playing. Will they come back for 15 more levels? It can't hurt their chances of returning. The most important thing is the game needs more exposure on all levels, especially on a fan level. If people come back to play the game, there is a chance they will bring in other people to play the game. There is a chance they will watch more streams. There is a chance it will help the game's popularity. The only real flaw is that it's too easy to level up.

3. First win of the day bonuses encourage people to at least play a few games everyday. I don't think it's good to make leveling up easier than it already is but it's a compromise needed for a greater good -- increasing the chance people will play daily or more frequently. It's great if they can sit down and grind out 10 levels in one day. It's even better if they spread that out over a week because they realize it's more efficient with first-win bonuses.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 01:28:33
January 10 2014 01:27 GMT
#35
On January 10 2014 09:12 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 08:48 RaZorwire wrote:
On January 10 2014 08:21 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 08:08 Undead1993 wrote:
people are so negative, i like it and it's obviously not the only thing they will be bringing with the patch 2.1, they already announced other things during blizzcon.

Patch 2.1 is really the weakest client-patch of all patches that we had.


You guys are aware this is not a full list of changes, right? They've mentioned earlier that they will be doing all kinds of additional changes like re-introducing SC1 music and changing ladder parameters so the leagues are distributed differently, etc.

What we get with 2.1:
• Calendar
• 3 carbot portraits/decals
• BW music
• extensions
• decals
• F2P SC2 without 1v1 and campaign

Compare please to 1.5 and 2.0 patches.

Is it that hard to draw 10-30 more new decals, add 100 new levels and keep casual player-base in the game for a longer time?
Is it that hard to do story DLC which will add more missions to campaign with planets conquering by Broodmothers?
Is it that hard to release more agressive testing with more balance testing maps?
Is it that hard to add gamemodes with achievements? Or just make them from leveling?
Is it that hard to add new backgrounds for menu?

Answer to all of those questions - no, it's easier to make Heroes-MOBA with Kerrigan riding on the pony.

Last time I have feeling that SC2 team is just one programmer, that doing entire job. So slow, so few, so weak...


you fuckn kidding ? story dlc ? you know how hard that is ? all the videos stuff etc its ,... hard dude its not easy ...
and blizzard not make just "bad" more levels when we have missions they are epic with epic videos etc ... but jaeh programming is kidding easy right ? the moba guys arent even in the sc2 section so thats stupid to mention ...

ps: i see 90% of the gamers playing with this zergling ^^ its just to cute to miss out
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 01:31:19
January 10 2014 01:29 GMT
#36
*double post please delete
blarkh
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria72 Posts
January 10 2014 01:52 GMT
#37
Oh no, they give us fun stuff but not an expansion for free! Let's group together and throw some stones at them.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 10 2014 01:55 GMT
#38
On January 10 2014 10:20 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 10:12 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 10:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.

you do realize that us and na is the same server?
not sure if you ever played sc2, because if so you would know that on half of the servers you get huge delays, no matter where you play from.
the unranked thing is true though if you get a place in a real league it's much more fun to play a game because you can get promoted and get points = much more motivation to play.

I remember 4 servers in the options. Ah, it was Asia.

Also it's just maxium MMRs you may have. You don't need all of them. Probably 2-4 is enought (aka 1-2 servers).

I think, that unranked play is more than enough for you to practice other race. Also there are tons of tutorials as all three races and vsAI games also, which is also a great way to start learn new race from easy enemies that become harder and harder, and you may see that progression and control it.


AI can help you get basic mechanics down, but you are going to lose sooo many games against random stuff simply by7 being unfamiliar with the match up - you need to play at your own level or you'll just lose to silly things and get frustrated.

From basic tranings to better playing replays may help you. Once newbie player finished basic trainings, he will probably understand a bit better some things like build orders or things like do this or do that at X minute
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
January 10 2014 02:23 GMT
#39
On January 10 2014 09:41 sM.Zik wrote:
I don't get why people are so excited about these XP and levels things... doesn't mean anything at all and we had nothing like that in BW and nobody ever complained. I'll never understand the new generation of gamers but oh well if it can please some, why not?


I agree that they should do that. But as a work around just play unranked until you start winning.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 03:15:00
January 10 2014 03:13 GMT
#40
there should be an achievement for reaching the max level, records the date that you did so

so that theres a way to differentiate between players who are all max level

like right now theres alot of level 90s, but you have no idea who got to that level first

i have the dark voice portrait and the predator portrait, and these are linked to achievements that clearly show the date they were reached, there should be something similar for the max level cap, since Blizzard is emphasizing experience leveling so much now

JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2014 10:52 GMT
#41
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 10 2014 12:23 GMT
#42
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 12:45:17
January 10 2014 12:41 GMT
#43
On January 10 2014 21:23 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?


Nope, is it that hard to implement seperate MMRs? Besides, the solution of changing region might work for me, but there are people for which the solution does not work, depending on which time zone they live in, at what time they can play and how much lag they have to the other alien servers.

Besides, if there is something like levels and achievement, I'd like to have them on a single account. Yes, I am that shallow of a person.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 10 2014 12:42 GMT
#44
On January 10 2014 21:23 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?


and lagging.
Zest fanboy.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
January 10 2014 12:50 GMT
#45
On January 10 2014 21:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 21:23 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?


Nope, is it that hard to implement seperate MMRs? Besides, the solution of changing region might work for me, but there are people for which the solution does not work, depending on which time zone they live in, at what time they can play and how much lag they have to the other alien servers.

Besides, if there is something like levels and achievement, I'd like to have them on a single account. Yes, I am that shallow of a person.


Implementing separate MMRs might be hard, yes. They would completely have to change how promotions and rankings work, since they are now based on a summary of all your matchups.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 10 2014 13:04 GMT
#46
On January 10 2014 21:50 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 21:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 21:23 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?


Nope, is it that hard to implement seperate MMRs? Besides, the solution of changing region might work for me, but there are people for which the solution does not work, depending on which time zone they live in, at what time they can play and how much lag they have to the other alien servers.

Besides, if there is something like levels and achievement, I'd like to have them on a single account. Yes, I am that shallow of a person.


Implementing separate MMRs might be hard, yes. They would completely have to change how promotions and rankings work, since they are now based on a summary of all your matchups.


Can't they just rank MMR based on your arithmetic middle for example? Or maybe there are more sophisticated methods, but you just need to settle on one.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
January 10 2014 17:03 GMT
#47
On January 10 2014 21:50 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 21:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 21:23 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 19:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:50 Existor wrote:
On January 10 2014 09:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Imo if they really want to motivate players to play with different races, they need to seperate the MMR (and league) with each race. As of now, if I try to ladder with any race besides my main race, I will be crushed... hard...

You know you already have 8 different MMRs?

Ranked and unranked, multiple it to each region. Two for Europe, two for Korea, two for US and two for NA.


Yes, forcing me to switch modes and / or change region to play with an offrace.

In my opinion, there should be 9 MMRs, one per matchup per account. They shouldn't be totally independent from each other, because most casual players will never play enough games in a specific matchup to gauge their skill, but they should be separate.

Is it that hard to click on Menu and click on s small Globe icon and/or click on unranked button near the ranked one?


Nope, is it that hard to implement seperate MMRs? Besides, the solution of changing region might work for me, but there are people for which the solution does not work, depending on which time zone they live in, at what time they can play and how much lag they have to the other alien servers.

Besides, if there is something like levels and achievement, I'd like to have them on a single account. Yes, I am that shallow of a person.


Implementing separate MMRs might be hard, yes. They would completely have to change how promotions and rankings work, since they are now based on a summary of all your matchups.


No, not really. It would be quite simple actually. From a programming stand-point, it'd be essentially the exact same concept of unranked vs. ranked mmr, but with promotions enabled. Very simple.

Of course, the UI part of it would be more complicated, as screens would have to change to display separate ladders/rankings and statistics, etc. IMO I think unranked is enough to play around with other races, but I really would love to see 4 different MMRs (don't forget random ), would be super cool to see a profile layout with 3 leagues
SooYoung-Noona!
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 10 2014 17:07 GMT
#48
OH MY GAWD! i so wanna grab dat carbot portraits, THIS IS SO COOL!
Carbot Hwaiting!! Carbot saving e-Sports.
Patch 2.1 just got AWESOMESAUCE!!!!
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
MasterSmurf
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany30 Posts
January 10 2014 18:52 GMT
#49
i luv the carbot pictures :D definitely gonna grab em
@xchamper
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44137 Posts
January 10 2014 18:54 GMT
#50
This is hilarious :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 10 2014 18:55 GMT
#51
CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PATCH!
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
January 11 2014 13:44 GMT
#52
am i the only one who is getting a bit annoyed with the theme starcraft is taking. Carbot it excellent, but im getting fed up of it all over my serious RTS strategy its changing the viial identity of sc2(possibly the reason this style of cute animation works with such a produce as it is its polar opposite). Please. Can we stop it now? Thinking about it, maybe this is intentional to bring the game to look like its for 11 - 14 year olds
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
January 11 2014 14:28 GMT
#53
Lol, first win of the day, where have I ever heard that one before?
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