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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19387 Posts
On January 09 2014 11:56 Darkhoarse wrote: My sister lives in Orlando, so I'd tell her I'm coming down to visit then BOOM NOPE ESPORTS Lol awesome. I lived in Orlando for about 5 years. I'm in Jacksonville now. Just a hop, skip, and a jump away. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 09 2014 11:58 BisuDagger wrote: Lol awesome. I lived in Orlando for about 5 years. I'm in Jacksonville now. Just a hop, skip, and a jump away. I live in Philadelphia so it's more like a hop, skip, jump, and 15 hour drive away. But it would be worth it for an MLG I am thinking. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
The only way for NA players to reach a good enough level to face Koreans is to give them chances to win similar money, thus they can devote the time and energy into taking it seriously. Foreigners can watch pro league to see the best players. WCS NA rarely even offers Korean vs foreigner... What I'm saying is, I fear the Blizzard "monopoly" and the rules they can create to sanction others and shut them out of the market, while they flip off their community and exercise their right to not give customers or players what they want. Competition is good and creates things like this. But, if Blizzard has the power to control SC 2 tournaments, in general, then it's hard to not be cautiously optimistic. Why appeal to consumers when you can bully others out? I'm just assuming that's their plan or else players might be more invigorated and tournaments wouldn't be run like a clown show. | ||
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On January 09 2014 12:52 playa wrote: Wouldn't this "kill" WCS? As is, who even cares if you get into challenge league or premier as a NA citizen. Everyone is Korean. Realistically, who has good odds against Jaedong or Bomber, etc? If the skill gap wasn't big enough, it wouldn't be all Korean. The only way for NA players to reach a good enough level to face Koreans is to give them chances to win similar money, thus they can devote the time and energy into taking it seriously. Foreigners can watch pro league to see the best players. WCS NA rarely even offers Korean vs foreigner... What I'm saying is, I fear the Blizzard "monopoly" and the rules they can create to sanction others and shut them out of the market, while they flip off their community and exercise their right to not give customers or players what they want. Competition is good and creates things like this. But, if Blizzard has the power to control SC 2 tournaments, in general, then it's hard to not be cautiously optimistic. Why appeal to consumers when you can bully others out? I'm just assuming that's their plan or else players might be more invigorated and tournaments wouldn't be run like a clown show. Blizzard's not just a tournament organizer they make the fucking game. More tournaments means more promotion and more eyes on the game and possibly more sales. As long as the times don't overlap Blizzard should love this. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
Wouldn't this "kill" WCS? No. who even cares if you get into challenge league or premier as a NA citizen. Lots of people. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
Who cares about challenger league if there was something like this? How much money is in challenger league? Who would you beat in premier league? NA players are probably more stoked about lotto tickets they have than chances in premier league. You're in challenger league! Great, now go get a job. Big deal. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:02 playa wrote: Who cares about challenger league if there was something like this? How much money is in challenger league? Who would you beat in premier league? NA players are probably more stoked about lotto tickets they have than chances in premier league. You're in challenger league! Great, now go get a job. Big deal. alot of people care. considering how many players try to get into premier should tell you the least amount of people who care | ||
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emanresU
Germany393 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:05 DODswe4 wrote: alot of people care. considering how many players try to get into premier should tell you the least amount of people who care You shouldn't mistake a lack of alternatives for genuine interest. NASL clearly showed how important these tournaments are to the NA scene. It was done very diligently. Prob months of planning and a hiring process took place. Is this for real? | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:08 playa wrote: You shouldn't mistake a lack of alternatives for genuine interest. NASL clearly showed how important these tournaments are to the NA scene. It was done very diligently. Prob months of planning and a hiring process took place. Is this for real? I mean, feel free to not watch the tournaments or come to these forums. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
Glad to see this happening! | ||
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goswser
United States3548 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:02 playa wrote: Who cares about challenger league if there was something like this? How much money is in challenger league? Who would you beat in premier league? NA players are probably more stoked about lotto tickets they have than chances in premier league. You're in challenger league! Great, now go get a job. Big deal. Qualifying for challenger league alone gives you more prize money than getting 3rd/4th at this tournament. So an NA tournament of this amount of prize money would in no way kill WCS lol. | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:46 goswser wrote: Qualifying for challenger league alone gives you more prize money than getting 3rd/4th at this tournament. So an NA tournament of this amount of prize money would in no way kill WCS lol. Agree with Goswser that we're not a WCS alternative or replacement. However... Just to be clear. The $5,000 invitational is a small test. It is not tied into Anaheim or even into the pre LAN event tournament system. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:46 goswser wrote: Qualifying for challenger league alone gives you more prize money than getting 3rd/4th at this tournament. So an NA tournament of this amount of prize money would in no way kill WCS lol. + it's still the top tournament where top players are supposed to jauge themselves. For upcoming and coming players it's a real boost to qualify and for more known pro it's almost something that has to be done. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways?  | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
How is this gonna be any good for us non-americans ? | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:00 Cheren wrote: Blizzard's not just a tournament organizer they make the fucking game. More tournaments means more promotion and more eyes on the game and possibly more sales. As long as the times don't overlap Blizzard should love this. Emphasis mine, to my understanding that is practically the only requirement to get a tourney license now (ok that's an exaggeration but w/e). On January 09 2014 14:06 Tchado wrote: American's only ? Destiny as a caster ? :S :S :S How is this gonna be any good for us non-americans ? Maybe it's best for non-NA viewers to think of this as a smaller scale / local tournament and not like the big MLG's in the past. Kind of like TeSL or Zotac Cups or Playheim Dailies, ect. Sure people outside those locales watches them, but it wasn't exactly meant for world-wide appeal imo. | ||
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Ryuhou)aS(
United States1174 Posts
First of all more big tournaments means more fun time watching these awesome games to watch..(who cares if it's America only? I think that's still pretty cool, and frankly watching to koreans play perfectly gets kind of boring after a while, it's more fun when there's a few small mistakes...it adds to the tension IMO). Secondly, and this is sort of a personal reason but w/e, MLG Columbus where MMA won was the tournament that really got me into e-sports. I mean I had heard of it before, and even watched some of the old KR BW leagues (I used to looove Cella and old school July) but i wasn't ever so hyped and pumped and felt so much adrenaline as I was when that crowd was chanting MMA! MMA! MMA! My point being MLG has made many many many great amazing memories for so many people, i don't see how anybody can hate on them for at least trying to make more. | ||
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