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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
December 21 2013 01:13 GMT
#101
>.> a member of the 6 dragons paid so poorly? After winning last OSL...and being way more consistent lately then stork? Jesus Samsung, what the hell??
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
December 21 2013 01:17 GMT
#102
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 21 2013 01:19 GMT
#103
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 21 2013 01:29 GMT
#104
On December 21 2013 10:12 mrRoflpwn wrote:
so why was he streaming bw? Also it sounds like he is owed a lot of money from his team.


BW fans pay streamers better is probably the biggest reason for most of the retired waiting for military. Also Mind Games trains Sc2 secretly for years and then comes back with a unique style and wins an GSL before he gets figured out.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
December 21 2013 01:32 GMT
#105
On December 21 2013 09:22 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 07:46 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On December 21 2013 07:21 thezanursic wrote:
Are we forgetting the fact that Jangbi has probably played way more BW in the last 4 months than SC2.

He's not coming back.

If he streams BW he's an old-school novelty. If he streams SC2 he's just another drop in the bucket.

Naturally he streams the game that gives him the bigger paycheck. Something an actual paycheck could easily offset.

SC2 is already oversaturated. I'm pretty sure Jangbi will never get picked up.


There will be a lot of teams eager to sign him, but probably not at the salary he wants.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 21 2013 01:33 GMT
#106
On December 21 2013 10:17 geokilla wrote:
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.

Believing one of the more corrupt businesses on the planet would make moral decisions, or even legal decisions is pretty optimistic.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 01:56:16
December 21 2013 01:53 GMT
#107
On December 21 2013 00:05 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 22:21 Doublemint wrote:
On December 20 2013 22:04 Maegi wrote:
Acer needs a protoss... Just sayin'


no they don't. it's Acer after all.

Scarlett, if you can read this, please consider adopting Jangbi/not stabbing him in his sleep should he join the team. He is a protoss, I know, but he's played protoss for years in the game where playing protoss was actually hard, and PvZ was probably slightly zerg favoured. Surely that must count for something! He was/is also really fucking good, like two-times OSL champion good.

I know it's hard, but Jangbi is a really cool guy and he also looks like a young Jet Li, with a crooked smile that will melt the doors off of Uncle Scrooge's vault.


^^ its not scarlett, the problem is nerchio ^^ as the acer manager say, they dont get a protoss because "we wont anger nerchio" ^^

On December 21 2013 10:33 bo1b wrote:
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On December 21 2013 10:17 geokilla wrote:
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.

Believing one of the more corrupt businesses on the planet would make moral decisions, or even legal decisions is pretty optimistic.


dude ? what has samsung to do with the act the team is done ... samsung is a fine company stay cool ... its at least 10 times better then apple xD

On December 21 2013 10:06 Cele wrote:
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On December 21 2013 04:24 Zealously wrote:
On December 21 2013 04:22 Pisko. wrote:
When HotS came out I used to lurk KR server a lot and added a bunch of my favorite players off the GM list. Jangbi has never fully quit SC2, every time I check his profile he's played a ton of games, and has always stayed in Masters. He likes using all three races also.

http://puu.sh/5SZHT.jpg
http://puu.sh/5SZMh.jpg

starcraft://profile/3/17334859641586188288


Thanks a lot for this, really interesting to see.

Also, it didn't work last time but maybe now:

On December 20 2013 19:52 Zealously wrote:
This is very interesting and maybe it'll shut some of the people going ""We have proof, Jangbi actually hate SC2!" up. I wonder what'll happen in the end.



Not our fault everybody comes back to BW. Just swallow it.


your post makes so no sense overall .. it rly hurts to ´read
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
December 21 2013 02:13 GMT
#108
On December 21 2013 10:17 geokilla wrote:
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.


Um before you pile on Samsung maybe find some better information than the OP's "I heard some rumors"?

I heard some rumors that IdrA is the next Zerg bonjwa.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#109
On December 21 2013 10:13 FromShouri wrote:
>.> a member of the 6 dragons paid so poorly? After winning last OSL...and being way more consistent lately then stork? Jesus Samsung, what the hell??

ya, this part was really odd to me then again, OP did say it was a rumour.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
December 21 2013 03:00 GMT
#110
Yay this brightened my day :D So good to have him back, he was one of my favorite players
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11391 Posts
December 21 2013 03:33 GMT
#111
On December 21 2013 11:13 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 10:17 geokilla wrote:
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.


Um before you pile on Samsung maybe find some better information than the OP's "I heard some rumors"?

I heard some rumors that IdrA is the next Zerg bonjwa.

jangbi said all of it on stream, it's not rumors
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
December 21 2013 03:49 GMT
#112
On December 21 2013 10:13 FromShouri wrote:
>.> a member of the 6 dragons paid so poorly? After winning last OSL...and being way more consistent lately then stork? Jesus Samsung, what the hell??
In other BREAKING NEWS, KeSPA teams' business practices suck.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
December 21 2013 04:11 GMT
#113
Jangbi to Acer. WCS 2014 grand finals Jangbi vs Jaedong.

I really wish Samsung would let Jangbi do whatever he wants to do now. Imagine Jangbi joining some foreign team and becoming as successful as Jaedong.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
December 21 2013 04:52 GMT
#114
On December 21 2013 12:33 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 11:13 Yakikorosu wrote:
On December 21 2013 10:17 geokilla wrote:
Can Samsung legally do that? Don't they make enough off their phones and chips already? Wow screw Kespa and Proleague.


Um before you pile on Samsung maybe find some better information than the OP's "I heard some rumors"?

I heard some rumors that IdrA is the next Zerg bonjwa.

jangbi said all of it on stream, it's not rumors


OP says SOME of the rumors are from JangBi's stream. Doesn't say which ones. And frankly even if we assume that ALL of this comes from JangBi's stream, there is perhaps a better source of unbiased information about JangBi than JangBi's stream, yes? Or at least a second side to the story?

If all the trash talk about Samsung is coming from JangBi himself though, one thing that it does seem to clearly indicate is that JangBi himself feels mistreated by Samsung, which maybe sheds light on his extremely abrupt "retirement." For example if he felt that Samsung was not properly paying over his prize money, maybe he felt that there was no point in playing for them in WCS KR.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 21 2013 04:54 GMT
#115
On December 21 2013 12:49 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 10:13 FromShouri wrote:
>.> a member of the 6 dragons paid so poorly? After winning last OSL...and being way more consistent lately then stork? Jesus Samsung, what the hell??
In other BREAKING NEWS, KeSPA teams' business practices suck.

KeSPA teams are older and more rigorous, not just practice-wise.
Players from KeSPA teams are or were basically treated like businessmen. They get paid competitive salary, and their achievements are marketing schemes.
They get raises depending on the support they get from their sponsors and how well they do performance-wise, as well as how popular they are and how well they play in the marketing of their team.
Stork was still more popular and more of an asset than the Jangbi that was playing better.

That was the decision made by the people in charge of the team, the company Samsung had nothing to do with it, directly.

Sure you might not like it, and it's changing little by little, but that was the most logical system to use from a Korean standpoint.
It also makes tons of sense internationally speaking, and it helps maintain careers.

These days people only care about prize money, and giving money to the elite, rather than focusing on creating stable jobs like they used to. That's probably one of the biggest restraints holding eSports down at this point.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 21 2013 05:06 GMT
#116
Does "Jangbi's stream" mean that Jangbi actually said these things on Afreeca, or there was some random netizen in the stream chat saying them?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 21 2013 05:10 GMT
#117
On December 21 2013 14:06 iamho wrote:
Does "Jangbi's stream" mean that Jangbi actually said these things on Afreeca, or there was some random netizen in the stream chat saying them?


The source I saw was Milkis doing a translation of what jangbi said on stream.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 21 2013 05:24 GMT
#118
How does that justify taking prize money, saying they will pay it back, and then not paying it back or releasing him from the team?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 21 2013 05:27 GMT
#119
On December 21 2013 14:24 bo1b wrote:
How does that justify taking prize money, saying they will pay it back, and then not paying it back or releasing him from the team?

well, unless I'm mistaken, that was something hated about KeSPA in general. That the player's prize money was taken from them however I think it's a team based thing though I could be wrong. For this case though, I would read this:

On December 20 2013 21:01 Mahanaim wrote:
I'm pretty sure Jangbi didn't say Samsung only returned a part of the money. Didn't he say that Samsung only added a small interest on top of the original money he gave? So what I heard was he got {original money+a very small interest}, which was what disappointed him a lot, since he expected more interest.

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
kisoso
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
December 21 2013 05:34 GMT
#120
It was so sad to see JangBi leaving the scene at his zenith of SC2 career. I really hope he comes back stronger than ever in whatever team he's with.
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