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On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.  Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.
No your point doesn't hold up for shit. Regardless of Bombers motives to play on whatever server that'll never serve as a proper excuse for the behaviour that Hitman put on. Your defense is also based on a ton of assumptions and none of these are backed up by any facts whatsoever. Your comparsion to EU players coming onto the NA server for easy wins is in fact hilarious.
Let me clarify:
- You ASSUME that players come onto the NA server for easy wins
- You feel offended by this assumption
- Due to being offended by an assumption made by yourself, you actually admit to BM:ing other players due to said assumption.
- You take said assumption and apply it to Bomber playing on NA and then try to defend Hitmans behaviour by saying "Local players are offended by this" (another assumption, or at least, something you only base on your own experience).
I'm going to assume that your defense originates from the fact that you feel inferior playing on a server which people assume is less-skilled than the other servers. You feel personally offended by this and therfor you have the urge to defend, an inexcusable behaviour to satisfy this urge, probably because you've engaged in such inexcusable behaviour yourself. How am I doing? MY POINT STANDS!
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On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.
No it doesn't. Lets analyze what you said.
1. Bomber is playing on NA ladder to take some easy wins off NA losers - pure speculation
2. Hitman feels the same way as you do about Bomber and is punishing Bomber by rubbing it in - again speculation but this time based on your initial speculation, not actual evidence.
So you are basically projecting some of your frustrations about playing against EU masters (who also allegedly want easy wins) into a mind set of Bomber and qualify all that as evidence, thinking you made a valid point.
Sorry, but that has absolutely zero sense.
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On December 17 2013 01:15 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:
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Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins? This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site. He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool. You think he would stream and open himself up to this kind of shit if that was his intention? He did some streaming for his fans, he was letting the chat decide where to play. Just stop talking please, you're making my brain hurt.
Obviously English isn't your first language so I hope I'm being clear enough for you to understand.
It's my understanding that he's collecting wins for WCS NA eligibility, I think some players in NA get defensive about having Koreans come on their server or their WCS region looking for easy wins/money. I wasn't saying what Hitman did was right, just that I can see where he's coming from. You're just fanboying.
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On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins? This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site. He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool.
I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor.
I hope that helped, Littlesheep.
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On December 17 2013 01:17 dignitas.merz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. No your point doesn't hold up for shit. Regardless of Bombers motives to play on whatever server that'll never serve as a proper excuse for the behaviour that Hitman put on. Your defense is also based on a ton of assumptions and none of these are backed up by any facts whatsoever. Your comparsion to EU players coming onto the NA server for easy wins is in fact hilarious. Let me clarify: - You ASSUME that players come onto the NA server for easy wins - You feel offended by this assumption - Due to being offended by an assumption made by yourself, you actually admit to BM:ing other players due to said assumption. - You take said assumption and apply it to Bomber playing on NA and then try to defend Hitmans behaviour by saying "Local players are offended by this" (another assumption, or at least, something you only base on your own experience). I'm going to assume that your defense originates from the fact that you feel inferior playing on a server which people assume is less-skilled than the other servers. You feel personally offended by this and therfor you have the urge to defend, an inexcusable behaviour to satisfy this urge, probably because you've engaged in such inexcusable behaviour yourself. How am I doing? MY POINT STANDS!
I like you. You're swell.
+ Show Spoiler +There's "BM" and then there's BM. This was bad. I don't know if this Hitman guy is a "serious" (NA serious, lol) pro or what, but if he is, I hope his reputation is tarnished until my grandchildren are playing StarCraft 3.
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On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context.
you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros
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On December 17 2013 01:17 dignitas.merz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. No your point doesn't hold up for shit. Regardless of Bombers motives to play on whatever server that'll never serve as a proper excuse for the behaviour that Hitman put on. Your defense is also based on a ton of assumptions and none of these are backed up by any facts whatsoever. Your comparsion to EU players coming onto the NA server for easy wins is in fact hilarious. Let me clarify: - You ASSUME that players come onto the NA server for easy wins - You feel offended by this assumption - Due to being offended by an assumption made by yourself, you actually admit to BM:ing other players due to said assumption. - You take said assumption and apply it to Bomber playing on NA and then try to defend Hitmans behaviour by saying "Local players are offended by this" (another assumption, or at least, something you only base on your own experience). I'm going to assume that your defense originates from the fact that you feel inferior playing on a server which people assume is less-skilled than the other servers. You feel personally offended by this and therfor you have the urge to defend, an inexcusable behaviour to satisfy this urge, probably because you've engaged in such inexcusable behaviour yourself. How am I doing? MY POINT STANDS!
Pretty much, yes.
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On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:
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Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros
I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.
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On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:
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Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.
Yeah the language barrier is kind of a problem here, we don't speak stupid.
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On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:
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Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.
All right, knock it off with the language barrier defense to your poorly thought out arguments. Either respond to his criticism for real or concede.
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On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:
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Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.
um ok
you said hitman bm'd bomber is due to bomber on NA ladder earning easy wins.
Any proof? This is not a context, it is a theory.
On the other hand, a much more plausible theory is that hitman is just in general, a very bm person. Why?
Because he bm'd kas even back in WoL days.
So yea.
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On December 17 2013 01:27 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:
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If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard.
Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it. Yeah the language barrier is kind of a problem here, we don't speak stupid.
All he's saying is that Bomber was trying to take advantage of a situation by getting easy wins on the NA server. So it was poetic justice or karma that he was harassed and insulted repeatedly. HitMan was simply standing up against someone trying to abuse the NA ladder.
Right?
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On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:
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Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins? This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site. He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool. I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor. I hope that helped, Littlesheep.
Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant.
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On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:
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Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.
You messed up your point entirely. The context you gave doesn't excuse any of Hitman's behavior. It's like explaining why some psychopath kid carved up a kitten.
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On December 17 2013 01:07 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:03 ZenithM wrote:On December 17 2013 00:41 tshi wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:
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Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Exactly. Bomber is literally taking the easy road by trying to play against NA. All Hitman did was give bomber some scolding for choosing to literally take the easy road by trying to play against NA. If bomber was literally taking the easy rode by playing NA, then he deserves to be constantly harrassed, insulted and bothered by someone. Frankly, Hitman is a North American hero. He stood up for what was right and defended his continent's pride by standing up to the Korean menace and saying "ENOUGH". I hope I expanded on your defense, LittleSheep -- it was a great one to begin with : ) First, your interpretation of what Bomber is thinking when he plays on NA is entirely yours and a product of imagination rather than reality. Whereas we very well saw in the game chat that Hitman was BM as fuck. I could indeed understand that Hitman reacts like that because he thinks like you (belittled by Bomber or whatnot), but the joke's on you, don't feel threatened by a Korean guy coming over to play on NA because his stream chat required it or something. Beside, I don't think trolling gold leaguers (which is what NA GM is to Bomber, most likely) is Bomber's thing, like it is Dragon's. From what I watched, Bomber seemed to play quite seriously, so please don't be disrespectful. My sarcasm detector triggered when reading his post. There were too many "literally" for his post to be serious... At least that's what I hope.
I wasn't replying to him specifically, but all the posts before were all too serious :D
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On December 17 2013 01:33 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:
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If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard.
Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it. You messed up your point entirely. The context you gave doesn't excuse any of Hitman's behavior. It's like explaining why some psychopath kid carved up a kitten.
Just by reading this post, I think it's now clear to me that I don't take BM nearly as serious as the posters here.
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Hitman has always been really bm, I have some old replays from last year where he says a slew of transphobic comments over 3 games. Young + bm +cheesing protoss players, what a surprise
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On December 17 2013 01:31 Littlesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:
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Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins? This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site. He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool. I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor. I hope that helped, Littlesheep. Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant.
What does that have to do with Hitman being an asshat? Because that is what we were discussing before you can and derailed into nonsense land.
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On December 17 2013 01:30 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:27 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:
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It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar).
Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone.
In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts. That is why I said it is terrible defense. For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up. It is exact same thing as what you said. I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up. I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context. you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it. Yeah the language barrier is kind of a problem here, we don't speak stupid. All he's saying is that Bomber was trying to take advantage of a situation by getting easy wins on the NA server. So it was poetic justice or karma that he was harassed and insulted repeatedly. HitMan was simply standing up against someone trying to abuse the NA ladder. Right?
This is pretty much what I was saying, yes.
"Harassed and insulted repeatedly"
Does anyone know if he survived?
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On December 17 2013 01:36 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2013 01:31 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:
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If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard.
Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking. "Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers" Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective. I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it. Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story. Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense. Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate. So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so. And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM. I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss. He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands. Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins? This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site. He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool. I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor. I hope that helped, Littlesheep. Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant. What does that have to do with Hitman being an asshat? Because that is what we were discussing before you can and derailed into nonsense land.
I was saying that if that was the case here, and Hitman was taking offence at Bomber smurfing in NA, and that's why he was being rude, then I understand it more, personally.
A few posters here don't think that it has any impact on how they feel about Hitman.
Let's move on.
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