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On December 16 2013 02:29 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 22:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
Not only they cheese and all in so much but they are also so BM.. Bomber reported two protoss players today on his stream. It really leaves a bitter taste when GM players play and act like that.
There always has been people like this but it seems like this type of mindset has become more prominent. I can't help but think this is related to the rise in popularity of streamers like Avilo, Destiny and MaximusBlack, who all display this incredibly negative mindset. Destiny (I like his stream outside of when he is complaining) seems to end a fair number of his losses, especially against Protoss, with some passive-aggressive statement about the race he is facing rather than gg. MaximusBlack used to be fine but now he complains constantly when his proxy oracle, cannon rush, or warpgate all-in doesn't work. Avilo is the same as always, just with more viewers since he got featured.
You're probably right. It's my perception as well. You can also add to this list Sjow now.
Yesterday Grubby showed some worry on ATC broadcast about this current situation.
Its a sad situation for two reasons: (i) display how childish and unmannered people can be; (ii) showcase how stupid (=not smart) people can be. On the other day Avilo was talking shit after one loss against DT rush. The problem? You can't tell which allin protoss is going to throw at you. Plot twist: Avilo scouted a TC but, presumably, couldn't tell the difference between a TC researching blink and one that its idle. As a result, he was prepared for a blink timing.
So sad.
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I started playing as protoss in SC2 Beta, Silver -> Platinum. Then, I went to play Zerg, got better at the game, and loved Zerg -> Masters (hey, 3 seasons masters!). Then I thought "whoooaa, terran" but since I was so used to my bindings, I never managed to set up my production properly (lazyness is a bless...not). So I thought "get back to protoss" and found out it's boring and pvp sucks. Especially, pvp sucks. I'd love to play protoss somehow, but due to pvp, I will never do it. I can fully understand the feelings your going through.
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On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping.
If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard.
Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related.
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On December 16 2013 13:55 SirPinky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 02:29 Ben... wrote:On December 15 2013 22:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
Not only they cheese and all in so much but they are also so BM.. Bomber reported two protoss players today on his stream. It really leaves a bitter taste when GM players play and act like that.
That's not exclusive to Protoss. There's tons of people of every race that act like dicks on ladder. I see tons of Terrans bm on streams too, even against players who don't all-in for TvP like Nony. This isn't a race specific thing, but I have noticed that people have become much more rude or bm on ladder, both in my personal experiences and from what I see on stream. A lot of people seem to have changed their mindsets from improving to whining about other races and blaming their losses on everyone but themselves. There always has been people like this but it seems like this type of mindset has become more prominent. I can't help but think this is related to the rise in popularity of streamers like Avilo, Destiny and MaximusBlack, who all display this incredibly negative mindset. Destiny (I like his stream outside of when he is complaining) seems to end a fair number of his losses, especially against Protoss, with some passive-aggressive statement about the race he is facing rather than gg. MaximusBlack used to be fine but now he complains constantly when his proxy oracle, cannon rush, or warpgate all-in doesn't work. Avilo is the same as always, just with more viewers since he got featured. The mindset changing it not a fluke, it speaks to the backlash in the last patch and the general design of one race, mainly Protoss. It's a little frustrating when you can completely catch a Protoss off-gaurd (Marine drop, WM, Banshee etc) and all they have to do is right click on their Nexus. Balance discussion aside, you speak about streamers who have negative attitudes towards the game. I don't watch Maximus or Destiny but I do watch Avilo. Out of all three Avilo has the most experience: He is consistently GM (unlike Maximus) and never quit the game like Destiny. All I will say is his TvT is nearly 70%; TvZ about 60%; TvP in the 30% range. If anyone knows he is a marco player, generally mech and a turtle GoOdy-like style. He is not one to 2-base and bring all his scvs, which is I feel most Terran's are doing these days to win versus P. I think the statistics should tell you something about the general frustration and/or changing mindset of most Terran's in the game. I know Zerg have their complaints too, but I am not experienced with that race enough to comment aside from the PvZ I see on streams. I feel like I am making a somewhat unbiased statement after making GM 5x in WoL then switch to Terran in HOTS with less success than my previous race (toss). I enjoy playing Terran more b/c i find it more challenging but it's pretty sad there are very little opener options in TvP which is making the matchup very stale and not fun at all.
dude, things have been way too toxic since before the oracle patch, and really, even since before this whole "PROTOSS NOOB OP SHIT RACE" bullshit that's been going around. SC2 is not a particularly healthy community when it comes to actually playing the game.
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On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related.
It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar).
Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone.
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On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or its a CombatEx clone.
wow, what a douche. that's pretty messed up =/
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On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone.
That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison.
I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche.
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On December 16 2013 21:23 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 13:55 SirPinky wrote:On December 16 2013 02:29 Ben... wrote:On December 15 2013 22:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
Not only they cheese and all in so much but they are also so BM.. Bomber reported two protoss players today on his stream. It really leaves a bitter taste when GM players play and act like that.
That's not exclusive to Protoss. There's tons of people of every race that act like dicks on ladder. I see tons of Terrans bm on streams too, even against players who don't all-in for TvP like Nony. This isn't a race specific thing, but I have noticed that people have become much more rude or bm on ladder, both in my personal experiences and from what I see on stream. A lot of people seem to have changed their mindsets from improving to whining about other races and blaming their losses on everyone but themselves. There always has been people like this but it seems like this type of mindset has become more prominent. I can't help but think this is related to the rise in popularity of streamers like Avilo, Destiny and MaximusBlack, who all display this incredibly negative mindset. Destiny (I like his stream outside of when he is complaining) seems to end a fair number of his losses, especially against Protoss, with some passive-aggressive statement about the race he is facing rather than gg. MaximusBlack used to be fine but now he complains constantly when his proxy oracle, cannon rush, or warpgate all-in doesn't work. Avilo is the same as always, just with more viewers since he got featured. The mindset changing it not a fluke, it speaks to the backlash in the last patch and the general design of one race, mainly Protoss. It's a little frustrating when you can completely catch a Protoss off-gaurd (Marine drop, WM, Banshee etc) and all they have to do is right click on their Nexus. Balance discussion aside, you speak about streamers who have negative attitudes towards the game. I don't watch Maximus or Destiny but I do watch Avilo. Out of all three Avilo has the most experience: He is consistently GM (unlike Maximus) and never quit the game like Destiny. All I will say is his TvT is nearly 70%; TvZ about 60%; TvP in the 30% range. If anyone knows he is a marco player, generally mech and a turtle GoOdy-like style. He is not one to 2-base and bring all his scvs, which is I feel most Terran's are doing these days to win versus P. I think the statistics should tell you something about the general frustration and/or changing mindset of most Terran's in the game. I know Zerg have their complaints too, but I am not experienced with that race enough to comment aside from the PvZ I see on streams. I feel like I am making a somewhat unbiased statement after making GM 5x in WoL then switch to Terran in HOTS with less success than my previous race (toss). I enjoy playing Terran more b/c i find it more challenging but it's pretty sad there are very little opener options in TvP which is making the matchup very stale and not fun at all. dude, things have been way too toxic since before the oracle patch, and really, even since before this whole "PROTOSS NOOB OP SHIT RACE" bullshit that's been going around. SC2 is not a particularly healthy community when it comes to actually playing the game.
Agrred. Avilo was non-stop whining about toss even during the gomtvt era when terran were stomping everyone. Trying to use his opinions as a gauge to balance is absurd.
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On December 16 2013 20:38 boxerfred wrote:
I started playing as protoss in SC2 Beta, Silver -> Platinum. Then, I went to play Zerg, got better at the game, and loved Zerg -> Masters (hey, 3 seasons masters!). Then I thought "whoooaa, terran" but since I was so used to my bindings, I never managed to set up my production properly (lazyness is a bless...not). So I thought "get back to protoss" and found out it's boring and pvp sucks. Especially, pvp sucks. I'd love to play protoss somehow, but due to pvp, I will never do it. I can fully understand the feelings your going through.
Wait, are you really saying that PvP was better back in the days of WoL than HotS? :o
Wow, that is kind of surprising... I always thought that protoss would prefer the HotS PvP.
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On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche.
Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D
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On December 16 2013 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche. Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D
Better, loser has to pay the winner.
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On December 16 2013 22:14 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche. Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D Better, loser has to pay the winner.
Regardless how much bullshit he spouts, let's not forget that we are still dealing with a 17yo kid here...
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On December 16 2013 22:17 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 22:14 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche. Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D Better, loser has to pay the winner. Regardless how much bullshit he spouts, let's not forget that we are still dealing with a kid here...
I learned how not to be an asshole before I was twelve. I don't wish anything bad on him personally, but if he gets blacklisted from teams and tournaments I'd say that's appropriate.
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On December 16 2013 22:17 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 22:14 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche. Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D Better, loser has to pay the winner. Regardless how much bullshit he spouts, let's not forget that we are still dealing with a 17yo kid here...
Ok, his parents need to pay the winner. And 17 yo is not that young to be so immature. In most countries 18 years of age is considered an adult with full privileges of being an adult.
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On December 16 2013 22:17 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 22:14 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 22:11 JustPassingBy wrote:On December 16 2013 21:31 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone. That's atrocious, imo players like that should be blacklisted and banned from tournaments and shunned by teams and sponsors. They are absolute poison. I actually wrote a cute little story about him as a preview for the nation wars, I was kind of amused by him after he took down Scarlett somehow. Turns out he was a douche. Imo, the only solution is a showmatch, bo7 or bo9, between him and Bomber. The winner takes all the money while the loser will be shamed publicly. :D Better, loser has to pay the winner. Regardless how much bullshit he spouts, let's not forget that we are still dealing with a 17yo kid here...
If you don't have enough brain with 17 to not be such a big ashole (it's even more stupid cause bomber is clearly way superior in skill) you will never have enough. You are no kid with 17 anymore.
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At least now people know he's an ass.
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On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines.
How did I know this was coming. Hitman has always been bm since Wol days. I specifically remember kas going on like an 80 game win streak till he hit hitman and he got beat twice and hitman started to aggressively bm. He does it for attention to well known players. I agree people like that should not be able to participate in tournaments. Not mention he is not that good. Idk why these top grandmasters don't see him as free win if they just blind counter his builds. I know be doesn't hack because I've played him myself but something is very very wrong if a player like that is beating top notch players and has such a high ranking.
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On December 16 2013 22:47 Rickyvalle21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. How did I know this was coming. Hitman has always been bm since Wol days. I specifically remember kas going on like an 80 game win streak till he hit hitman and he got beat twice and hitman started to aggressively bm. He does it for attention to well known players. I agree people like that should not be able to participate in tournaments. Not mention he is not that good. Idk why these top grandmasters don't see him as free win if they just blind counter his builds. I know be doesn't hack because I've played him myself but something is very very wrong if a player like that is beating top notch players and has such a high ranking.
Thing is, bomber scouted it very early, seemed to make all the right moves ( in his opinion) and still lost. That's one of many reasons why people hate on Protoss, at any level, doesn't matter if you somehow get lucky and scout which one of 1223443 allins is coming, it can still kill u anyway  Protoss hate will never go away, I think people on the forums will just have to live with that.
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On December 16 2013 23:15 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 22:47 Rickyvalle21 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. How did I know this was coming. Hitman has always been bm since Wol days. I specifically remember kas going on like an 80 game win streak till he hit hitman and he got beat twice and hitman started to aggressively bm. He does it for attention to well known players. I agree people like that should not be able to participate in tournaments. Not mention he is not that good. Idk why these top grandmasters don't see him as free win if they just blind counter his builds. I know be doesn't hack because I've played him myself but something is very very wrong if a player like that is beating top notch players and has such a high ranking. Thing is, bomber scouted it very early, seemed to make all the right moves ( in his opinion) and still lost. That's one of many reasons why people hate on Protoss, at any level, doesn't matter if you somehow get lucky and scout which one of 1223443 allins is coming, it can still kill u anyway Protoss hate will never go away, I think people on the forums will just have to live with that.
so sick of seeing statements like that, it's just not true. every all in from every race can be stopped if properly scouted and reacted to
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On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2013 21:13 Squat wrote:On December 16 2013 05:37 Faust852 wrote:On December 16 2013 05:33 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2013 04:37 painkilla wrote:
Hitman-Bomber, what a sad game to watch. And wtf is wrong with this guy Hitman? So BM, won with an abusive unit such as voidray and the whined about marines. Did hitman really bm bomber? lol wtf. Yeah like hardcore, to the point where Bomber asked for a pause and hitman unpaused saying "LOLNO". + He kept messaging him inbetween game saying stupid crap and making me wondering about some kind of streamsniping. If that's actually true he should be removed from the Canada vs USA nation wars thingy. Unacceptable behaviour if you are going to represent your country in front of thousands of viewers. Teams and the community in general needs to start cracking down on this shit, hard. Not to mention the audacity of a super cheesy protoss to whine about anything balance related. It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar). Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone.
In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking.
"Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers"
Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective.
I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it.
Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story.
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