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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2013 16:44 GMT
#441
On December 17 2013 01:39 Littlesheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:30 tshi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:27 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:
[quote]

In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking.

"Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers"

Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective.

I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it.

Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story.


Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.

Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate.

So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so.

And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM.

I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss.


He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.


You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts.

That is why I said it is terrible defense.

For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up.

It is exact same thing as what you said.


I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up.

I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context.

you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros


I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.

Yeah the language barrier is kind of a problem here, we don't speak stupid.

All he's saying is that Bomber was trying to take advantage of a situation by getting easy wins on the NA server. So it was poetic justice or karma that he was harassed and insulted repeatedly. HitMan was simply standing up against someone trying to abuse the NA ladder.

Right?


This is pretty much what I was saying, yes.

"Harassed and insulted repeatedly"

Does anyone know if he survived?

LOL abuse the NA ladder. NA could use some abusing and see how the big buys play. Kids like Hitman should step up their game, rather than acting like a clown.
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Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 16:52:12
December 16 2013 16:51 GMT
#442
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
December 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#443
On December 17 2013 01:42 Littlesheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:36 Plansix wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:31 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 21:27 AxionSteel wrote:
[quote]

It was quite terrible. he was spamming PM's to him after the game with "EZPZ" and other stuff and added a "Get out of my server, only GOOD players play on NA" message as well (or something very similar).
Either he is very young or is a CombatEx clone.



In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking.

"Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers"

Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective.

I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it.

Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story.


Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.

Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate.

So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so.

And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM.

I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss.


He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.

Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins?

This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site.


He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool.

I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor.

I hope that helped, Littlesheep.


Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant.

What does that have to do with Hitman being an asshat? Because that is what we were discussing before you can and derailed into nonsense land.


I was saying that if that was the case here, and Hitman was taking offence at Bomber smurfing in NA, and that's why he was being rude, then I understand it more, personally.

A few posters here don't think that it has any impact on how they feel about Hitman.

Let's move on.

No mattter if Bomber is really on NA in order to play in WCS NA or not, Hitman acted like a douche. And that's the issue.
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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
December 16 2013 16:59 GMT
#444
Seems protoss players continuously get the best of him. Not a bad coach list after only 12 days.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
December 16 2013 17:03 GMT
#445
On December 17 2013 01:56 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:42 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:36 Plansix wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:31 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:30 Littlesheep wrote:
[quote]

In Hitmans defence, Bomber is playing on NA looking for easy wins, which local players can sometimes take offense to. Even if Bomber doesn't say it, that's what he's thinking.

"Well I'll just come over and take some easy wins off some NA losers"

Hitman was probably just rubbing it in that he can take games off him, I can sort of see it, it's obviously BM, but look at it from his perspective.

I ladder in the early mornings on NA, and there are a lot of EU masters players playing on NA at this time looking for easy wins off "NA noobs". When I beat them I rub it in occasionally, I just don't like their attitude about it.

Not saying Hitman is right, and Bomber has accomplished way more than he likely ever will, I'm just saying there is always two sides to a story.


Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.

Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate.

So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so.

And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM.

I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss.


He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.

Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins?

This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site.


He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool.

I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor.

I hope that helped, Littlesheep.


Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant.

What does that have to do with Hitman being an asshat? Because that is what we were discussing before you can and derailed into nonsense land.


I was saying that if that was the case here, and Hitman was taking offence at Bomber smurfing in NA, and that's why he was being rude, then I understand it more, personally.

A few posters here don't think that it has any impact on how they feel about Hitman.

Let's move on.

No mattter if Bomber is really on NA in order to play in WCS NA or not, Hitman acted like a douche. And that's the issue.


I think the actual issue this thread is intended for is to discuss Sjow ending his Protoss experiment, not what Hitman typed to Bomber.
pro toez
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 17:10:19
December 16 2013 17:09 GMT
#446
On December 17 2013 02:03 Littlesheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:56 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:42 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:36 Plansix wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:31 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:20 tshi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:12 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:09 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
[quote]

Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.

Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate.

So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so.

And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM.

I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss.


He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.

Oh your point stands all right, it's just stupid as shit. Easy money? Wtf kind of money is he going to make off the NA ladder? You think Bomber gives a shit about ladder wins?

This has got to be some of the dumber stuff I've ever read on this site.


He doing it (NA ladder) to be eligible for WCS NA, which has a sizeable prizepool.

I agree wholeheartedly. Bomber was trying to steal from our NA eSports scene and he was 'sniped' by Hitman, if you will. So what if you never talked to Bomber or asked what he was doing? Do you think he would have answered honestly and told the truth as it stands (that he is simply trying to take advantage of the scene?). No, so you don't need evidence, because the evidence would have been false, anyway. Would a thief ever admit to being a thief - that's why it was such poetic justice that he was harassed and insulted by hitman. Moreover, since Bomber is CLEARLY trying to take the easy road, don't you think he should switch to Protoss? That would facilitate his vacuous endeavor.

I hope that helped, Littlesheep.


Now I'm convinced, Bomber prefers NA ladder because of the obvious latency advantages and because he's more comfortable with English than Korean. The lower skill level on NA is irrelevant.

What does that have to do with Hitman being an asshat? Because that is what we were discussing before you can and derailed into nonsense land.


I was saying that if that was the case here, and Hitman was taking offence at Bomber smurfing in NA, and that's why he was being rude, then I understand it more, personally.

A few posters here don't think that it has any impact on how they feel about Hitman.

Let's move on.

No mattter if Bomber is really on NA in order to play in WCS NA or not, Hitman acted like a douche. And that's the issue.


I think the actual issue this thread is intended for is to discuss Sjow ending his Protoss experiment, not what Hitman typed to Bomber.

Well it wasn't so much as WHAT HE TYPED because that wasn't important. What was important is that Hitman had the wherewithall to see what Bomber's diabolical intentions were. So he acted and called him out on it. LIke you said, what he said wasn't the issue, it was it was very understandable since he was angry that Bomber was trying to take the literal easy road and get easy wins; until he ran into a high level protoss
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
December 16 2013 17:11 GMT
#447
What did hitman say to bomber?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2013 17:18 GMT
#448
Tshi is doing some fucking high level troll right now. It's hard to tell if he is serious or totally mocking sheep. It's some next level nonsense.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 16 2013 17:21 GMT
#449
Yeah, I must say, he got me confused. Bomber is totally trying to literally take the easy road though, I hope you got that.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 16 2013 17:21 GMT
#450
Tshi is clearly being sarcastic. Please guys, don't go full Romanian on us.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
December 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#451
On December 17 2013 02:18 Plansix wrote:
Tshi is doing some fucking high level troll right now. It's hard to tell if he is serious or totally mocking sheep. It's some next level nonsense.


I don't see it as particularly "high level" at all, it's been pretty obvious in all his posts. He doesn't agree with me so the best way to illustrate that clearly is to use "literally" in place of "figuratively", brilliant.
pro toez
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 16 2013 17:37 GMT
#452
May I remind you of Juanald, whom I worship as a God of Ambiguous Trolling (cf http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Juanald&gb=date). Teamliquid killed him too early, but I'll always remember him.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2013 17:51 GMT
#453
My god, what a troll. I can't even tell what race he played, but his posts about zealots and colossi are priceless. He is a fallen prince of TL trolling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#454
On December 17 2013 01:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 01:39 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:30 tshi wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:27 Squat wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:25 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:21 ETisME wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:15 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 01:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 17 2013 00:37 Littlesheep wrote:
On December 16 2013 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
[quote]

Hope you are not a lawyer, because that is terrible defense.

Bomber actually asked people on the stream if they want him to compete in KR, EU or NA server. Now, I just glanced through WCS 2014 changes, but as far as I know you need to be at least in master league and have 200 ladder wins on that server to be able to participate.

So if anything, he just wants to fill in the requirements to be able to play NA if he decides so.

And you can't possibly know what is going on inside Bomber's head so that is really a bad excuse to justify BM.

I for once would feel privileged to play against someone of Bomber's caliber, no matter if he is terran, zerg or protoss and what I might thing about terran, zerg or protoss.


He's playing in WCS NA for easier games, easier wins, easier money, that's all. My point still stands.


You do realize that your point is based on your impression of what is going on in Bomber's head. Not only that, you also have a theory about why is Hitman acting like a douchebag, again based solely on your opinion, not actual facts.

That is why I said it is terrible defense.

For example, I could say "Dear chose to play protoss because he wanted easier games, easier wins, easier money." I have absolutely zero evidence to back that up.

It is exact same thing as what you said.


I think the widely accepted opinion of why Koreans play in WCS NA is because it's easier than WCS Korea, I hardly think I'm the first person to bring this up.

I'm not saying this justifies Hitman acting like a jerk, I'm just trying to give it context.

you are not giving it a context, you are putting make up reasons why he bm'd bomber when a poster specifically stated that hitman had always been very bm towards pros


I think the language barrier is making it difficult for you to understand my point, you're taking it in a different manner than I wished to express it.

Yeah the language barrier is kind of a problem here, we don't speak stupid.

All he's saying is that Bomber was trying to take advantage of a situation by getting easy wins on the NA server. So it was poetic justice or karma that he was harassed and insulted repeatedly. HitMan was simply standing up against someone trying to abuse the NA ladder.

Right?


This is pretty much what I was saying, yes.

"Harassed and insulted repeatedly"

Does anyone know if he survived?

LOL abuse the NA ladder. NA could use some abusing and see how the big buys play. Kids like Hitman should step up their game, rather than acting like a clown.

Those Koreans playing on EU/AM ladder are a chance for the local players; since they're (usually) better they systematically push you towards your limits. Personally I would sure love to play someone like PartinG or Soulkey from time to time, even if it means getting absolutely mauled.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#455
On December 17 2013 02:37 ZenithM wrote:
May I remind you of Juanald, whom I worship as a God of Ambiguous Trolling (cf http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Juanald&gb=date). Teamliquid killed him too early, but I'll always remember him.

That is impressive. The even better part is all the people taking his posts seriously.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
December 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#456
Thanks for the kind words, guys. I troll through PMs too though:

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scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
SolidSMD
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium408 Posts
December 16 2013 20:39 GMT
#457
lol what? xD
TL mods read private messages?
Working on Starbow!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2013 20:44 GMT
#458
If you report it. Or maybe they are the NSA?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 16 2013 20:53 GMT
#459
Haha, taunting the guy after he's been banned. Classy move :D
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
December 16 2013 21:20 GMT
#460
Can we get a high level protoss to do the same (but backwards) and see if they can succeed?

I would love to see a Protoss switch to Terran and annihilate everyone.
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