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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
September 18 2014 08:58 GMT
#561
On September 18 2014 14:42 Trasko wrote:
Jaedong has to go to Dreamhack Stockholm so he can regain the points he lost T_T

IMHO if he can't make ro8 in WCS NA once, he doesn't deserve to be at Blizzcon. Every other player in the top 25 of the ranking has made at least one quarterfinals, the same can be said for every player in the top 32 with Flash being the only one not to reach one.

On September 18 2014 17:26 Shellshock wrote:
I just feel like it's unacceptable if soO doesn't make it but his chances have really gone down after that unsuccessful kespa cup

Yes, if only he could have beaten Super in that 400 points match. I hope SKT1 can maybe send him to Stockholm, but I fear, that annoying kespa-politics would stand in the way of that.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2718 Posts
September 18 2014 12:25 GMT
#562
On September 18 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
Yes, if only he could have beaten Super in that 400 points match. I hope SKT1 can maybe send him to Stockholm, but I fear, that annoying kespa-politics would stand in the way of that.

It's not so much politics this time as his GSL semi conflicts with Stockholm.
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
September 18 2014 12:55 GMT
#563
Get 2nd in WCS/GSL should give more points, at least 1250.

Going from 8th to 3rd/4th gives a player more 250 WCS points same difference when going from semifinals to finals, but winning gives you +1000 more points than getting 2nd. I dont think it s fair for the second .

Maybe next year...
The other race is OP
Appelsoep
Profile Joined September 2014
Belarus18 Posts
September 18 2014 13:13 GMT
#564
Zest will win, he is just too solid in any part of the game ( you should watch his gsl match vs life, amazing).
Like a baws
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 13:17:38
September 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#565
On September 18 2014 22:13 Appelsoep wrote:
Zest will win, he is just too solid in any part of the game ( you should watch his gsl match vs life, amazing).


Zest has never played Life in GSL
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
phfantunes
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil170 Posts
September 18 2014 13:31 GMT
#566
Maybe if soO gets to the finals Zest will forfeit since he's already qualified. soO in Blizzcon is a lot better than a GSL title Zest.
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
September 18 2014 13:47 GMT
#567
Red Bull has points awesome, now sOs please win and jump over Snute
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#568
On September 18 2014 22:31 phfantunes wrote:
Maybe if soO gets to the finals Zest will forfeit since he's already qualified. soO in Blizzcon is a lot better than a GSL title Zest.


That would never happen. Why would Zest give up the chance to win a GSL? soO's not even his teammate
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#569
Looks like soO will make Blizzcon for sure now http://open.dreamhack.se/news/193-stockholm-competitor-list.html .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 14:43:49
September 18 2014 14:41 GMT
#570
RiskyChris
Profile Joined April 2012
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 14:52:14
September 18 2014 14:51 GMT
#571
On September 18 2014 21:25 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
Yes, if only he could have beaten Super in that 400 points match. I hope SKT1 can maybe send him to Stockholm, but I fear, that annoying kespa-politics would stand in the way of that.

It's not so much politics this time as his GSL semi conflicts with Stockholm.


Edit: I'm dumb.
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
September 18 2014 14:59 GMT
#572
On September 18 2014 21:25 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
Yes, if only he could have beaten Super in that 400 points match. I hope SKT1 can maybe send him to Stockholm, but I fear, that annoying kespa-politics would stand in the way of that.

It's not so much politics this time as his GSL semi conflicts with Stockholm.


Since Cure and Innovation isn't going to be at DreamHack, maybe they asked to have the ro4 schedule swapped so that soO plays on Wednesday instead of Friday.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 18 2014 15:00 GMT
#573
On September 18 2014 23:59 movac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 21:25 argonautdice wrote:
On September 18 2014 17:58 Xoronius wrote:
Yes, if only he could have beaten Super in that 400 points match. I hope SKT1 can maybe send him to Stockholm, but I fear, that annoying kespa-politics would stand in the way of that.

It's not so much politics this time as his GSL semi conflicts with Stockholm.


Since Cure and Innovation isn't going to be at DreamHack, maybe they asked to have the ro4 schedule swapped so that soO plays on Wednesday instead of Friday.

GumBa will be mad.
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Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
September 18 2014 15:02 GMT
#574
Ugh this is the fucking problem.
After looking at these brackets... Its just looks like a stacked Dreamhack which is great and all but
we all wanted WCS Global Finals to be the whole world, we wanted Kespa rubbing shoulders with everyone else.
The only thing that can save this is if JD can win it. Other than that it'll feel just like another Dreamhack and not the world fucking finals.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 18 2014 15:09 GMT
#575
soO can't beat stats. It's over.
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 18 2014 15:10 GMT
#576
I don't understand how Snute can have such a high chance when some players below him have more potential points.

Snute only has Dreamhack to secure his spot at Blizzcon.

soO has Dreamhack and GSL. Granted soO is facing some really scary Protoss players, but I still see him having a greater chance due to more opportunities. That is if he can attend both, because there might be scheduling conflicts.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 18 2014 15:36 GMT
#577
Immediately after I do that big analysis, Dreamhack screws it up lol.

On September 19 2014 00:10 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I don't understand how Snute can have such a high chance when some players below him have more potential points.

Snute only has Dreamhack to secure his spot at Blizzcon.

soO has Dreamhack and GSL. Granted soO is facing some really scary Protoss players, but I still see him having a greater chance due to more opportunities. That is if he can attend both, because there might be scheduling conflicts.

I don't have soO's confirmation for DreamHack in yet, adding the full player list now. Also Snute losing immediately in DreamHack still has a better chance than soO because Snute has many more points already.
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RiskyChris
Profile Joined April 2012
125 Posts
September 18 2014 15:36 GMT
#578
On September 19 2014 00:02 Digitalis wrote:
Ugh this is the fucking problem.
After looking at these brackets... Its just looks like a stacked Dreamhack which is great and all but
we all wanted WCS Global Finals to be the whole world, we wanted Kespa rubbing shoulders with everyone else.
The only thing that can save this is if JD can win it. Other than that it'll feel just like another Dreamhack and not the world fucking finals.


No offense, but this should have been a pretty obvious conclusion at the start of the 2014 system with the changes they made.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 18 2014 16:08 GMT
#579
On September 19 2014 00:02 Digitalis wrote:
Ugh this is the fucking problem.
After looking at these brackets... Its just looks like a stacked Dreamhack which is great and all but
we all wanted WCS Global Finals to be the whole world, we wanted Kespa rubbing shoulders with everyone else.
The only thing that can save this is if JD can win it. Other than that it'll feel just like another Dreamhack and not the world fucking finals.


Jaedong's example this season is pretty much biggest thing which should force the system to change, because Jaedong hadn't done shit whole year and still almost guaranteed to advance until everything flops hardcore.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 18 2014 16:09 GMT
#580
i guess for the next year you need to also predict scheduling conflicts and include that if someone gets too deep in wcs they will not sign up for dreamhacks. also you need to guess how much travel money each player gets and run only scenarios where they dont overshoot the budget
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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