EPTI definitely feel it's harder to come back from inactivity for this reason especially. I don't see players who are better mechanically since I came back to playing, but it's super hard to deal with a ton of the allins that require really specific responses if you're at all rusty.
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25249 Posts
I definitely feel it's harder to come back from inactivity for this reason especially. I don't see players who are better mechanically since I came back to playing, but it's super hard to deal with a ton of the allins that require really specific responses if you're at all rusty. | ||
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sertman
United States540 Posts
i dodge every game with a protoss in it so that might be why too | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Ya I don't think it's as bad as they're making it out to be, but it definitely does seem weird. I was Masters essentially all of WoL since the league was created, then masters for the first few season of HotS before I took an extended break. I do remember the day you could create an account and within 15-25 games you'd be in diamond well into playing masters only... Now I can't seem to get out of platinum hahaha All the plat players now are actually really good (granted, I'm bad compared to before, but no where near what level of bad plat used to be). You definitely see every single player with 150+apm and hitting crisp timings, I am almost amazed to say that sometimes when I watch my replays I'm actually IMPRESSED by things my opponents do... I'm impressed by plats lol Also they're all ex-masters haha Like every single person I face in plat was ex-masters, and if they weren't, I just roll with no effort lol Was everyone and their mom masters at some point in time?  | ||
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Fhiz
361 Posts
If you look at the stats on sc2ranks you will see that 83% of people are in bronze-gold. You can't tell me that it has always been like that.. (I dont know for sure because I myself am very new). So therefore people who don't deserve to be in bronze-gold are therefore making these leagues harder? So in reply to the original question it looks like they are harder.. So what I am wondering is, why exactly is this happening? I understand MMR decay and whatnot but isn't a week enough for players to earn their way back up? Well not for me at least.. Is it always like this at the start of a new season, or am I missing something? | ||
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
Also they're all ex-masters haha Like every single person I face in plat was ex-masters, and if they weren't, I just roll with no effort lol Was everyone and their mom masters at some point in time? Yea when back in the day all it took was have good macro and as stated before it was 20% not 2.5%. | ||
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Phizzik
United States77 Posts
I do think this will level out after a full season or two but it is much harder than its ever been IMO. Maybe this is the challenge I need to break through to consistent Diamond form :D | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On November 20 2013 19:44 ZAiNs wrote: You aren't going to play vs Korean pro smurfs in Platinum lol. never said pro. just lots of smurfs in every league. | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1119 Posts
On November 20 2013 22:14 TheSayo182 wrote: Imho Everything started when they denied the possibilty of demotion, and if i recall correctly it was more or less when hots was released, so when we had a lot of new players, That's a good point too. Maybe all those thinks combined, just gotten out of hand. The currently annouenced "free to play starter edtion' may could be a reaction regarding 'active players'. All in all i don't have a good feeling about this all. (Nope, i do not want to jump a certain, negative hype writing this) I wonder what conclusion Excalibur_Z would have on this. Unfourtunatly, his ladder and league guide somehow overflow me. And allways will. | ||
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SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
It seems that with the introduction of unranked a lot of people stopped playing ranked, but the remaining players are spread out across the same leagues as ever - which means some people (like myself!) will be a league lower than they used to be. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On November 20 2013 22:48 Psychobabas wrote: never said pro. just lots of smurfs in every league. I've matched dragon in plat. He was 38-2 or something equally ridiculous and I won. ;d | ||
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MonkeyBot
United States125 Posts
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1119 Posts
On November 20 2013 22:54 SnuggleZhenya wrote: As long as it's matching me against players who are roughly equal to me, I don't care what my league is. I have no illusions that I'm a pro, so does it really matter if the border on my portrait is platinum or diamond? To play ladder is like beeing a hobbit. One wants to go after his usual business, among themselves. You don't want that gandalf guy that throws you out into a world of mystery and dangerous. It's: get roflstomped, or steamroll yourself. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
More information regarding MMR decay and its effects is available from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429734 | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On November 20 2013 23:22 korona wrote: Yes. Ladder is getting harder for lower leagues mainly due MMR decay. Players typically belonging to higher leagues have had their MMR dropped after they have been inactive for 2 weeks or more. The decay happens fast and is considerable. And it takes lots of games to overcome the maximum decay. Many do not overcome the decay before going back to hiatus. And when they come back, they are dropped even lower. More information regarding MMR decay and its effects is available from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429734 ye i just make like 10 games or less per season (im more of a arcade maps player) got into plat stop playing then next season got placed into silver so ye it can be that | ||
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
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EnPo
Finland411 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On November 20 2013 23:25 GizmoPT wrote: ye i just make like 10 games or less per season (im more of a arcade maps player) got into plat stop playing then next season got placed into silver so ye it can be that It is possible to avoid the current MMR decay mechanism as it only activates after 2 weeks of inactivity. If you don't have time to play during longer period, then make sure you have 1 game played during each less than 2 weeks period. Then MMR decay does not activate in that game mode for you. Of course this helps only regarding your account. Lots of your opponents still have faced the decay. | ||
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On November 20 2013 23:22 korona wrote: Yes. Ladder is getting harder for lower leagues mainly due MMR decay. Players typically belonging to higher leagues have had their MMR dropped after they have been inactive for 2 weeks or more. The decay happens fast and is considerable. And it takes lots of games to overcome the maximum decay. Many do not overcome the decay before going back to hiatus. And when they come back, they are dropped even lower. More information regarding MMR decay and its effects is available from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429734 Very interesting. In early/mid WoL I was a "high diamond" player. Nowadays I play a couple games a season, sometimes taking a break for a season or more. This season I was placed into bronze.  Of course, a large part of that is that I don't know any build... and people in general have gotten better mechanically and otherwise. | ||
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