There is No Best in the World - WCS Aftermath - Page 8

On November 15 2013 00:59 Heat_023 wrote:
These sort of opinions upset me. To me it feels like the SC2 community is so "platonist" about "the best in the world". It's like you're looking for some kind of absolute truth somewhere. It's like when people say "Innovation's the best player still", don't get me wrong he's my favorite player but what does that mean exactly ?

To me, the best in the world is the player who prevailed in the highest tier tournament (under some conditions of course), there is no truth beyond that as far as being a good player is not a quality that one possesses, but is something that has to be proved in a special competition that is tailored to determine that.

On November 15 2013 02:33 Zealously wrote:

Koreans like Jaedong or does he not count either?

On November 14 2013 10:53 Provok wrote:
I think Jaedong is the best player at the moment, the most consistant and he's being better day after day. The tournamenet he'll get rid of this curse will be the first of a long list imo.

On November 15 2013 03:45 Zealously wrote:


I don't think this argument holds any merit any more. It's true that all four WCS "finals" were won by players from WCS Korea, but the top players from (America in particular but also Europe to some extent) showed that you don't have to play in one particular region to be among the best. Winning WCS America or Europe alone won't make you a top player, but the fact that most of the players who placed highly in either Europe or America did well against a full playing field indicates that it doesn't really matter what region you play in, in the end.

On November 15 2013 04:28 Zealously wrote:


Oh, so we're actually doing this? Cool, I'll play along.

Jaedong's journey to the finals in WCS Season 2 Finals included convincing wins over Rain, MC, Naniwa and First
soO's journey ended aprubtply in the following Season Finals as he lost lost to Maru and Byul, only taking one map in a field similar to the one(s) where Jaedong was able to reach the finals.

In WCS Korea Season 2, soO beat Maru and sOs in Bo1s before falling in the Ro16, beating Parting but losing to Symbol and Soulkey, whereas Jaedong beat Macsed, puCK, Ryung, Oz, Jim and Scarlett before losing to Polt in the finals. That doesn't paint the most impressive picture of soO, does it?

You see, we can always cherry pick series and tournaments to make sure one player looks better or worse. The fact of the matter is that Jaedong has made it to the finals of five big tournaments this year and he's defeated unquestionably good players on the way there each time. Of course Jaedong wouldn't have had as many points had he played in WCS Korea, but I think it's hard to believe that he wouldn't have made it to Blizzcon anyway. soO on the other hand had one good run in WCS Korea Season 3 but was otherwise fairly mediocre. I won't debate soO being really good, but he's not automatically better than anyone because he plays in the hardest region.