EPTAnyway the formats of sc2 don't allow there to be a clear cut dominant player often. Koreans are the best by far and many of them only show themselves in code S/WCS korea and a few outside tournaments. sOs played fine all year but just lost relatively early in season 2 and 3 with some bad luck. Knockout formats where the individual games are so volatile is just not a great way to find the great players. There is too much variance introduced by the seeding and persons unluckily losing an early match. The best player in a starcraft knockout tournament like sc2 is still quite likely to just lose in the first round since it looks to be the type of game where the skills are close enough that the best player is only favored like 75:25 against the worst in code S. Especially increased by the fact the first games are just bo3. Not even mentioning there are maps which can just screw out a player sometimes, for example I recall sOs getting really bad maps in the OSL for his matchups.
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Anyway the formats of sc2 don't allow there to be a clear cut dominant player often. Koreans are the best by far and many of them only show themselves in code S/WCS korea and a few outside tournaments. sOs played fine all year but just lost relatively early in season 2 and 3 with some bad luck. Knockout formats where the individual games are so volatile is just not a great way to find the great players. There is too much variance introduced by the seeding and persons unluckily losing an early match. The best player in a starcraft knockout tournament like sc2 is still quite likely to just lose in the first round since it looks to be the type of game where the skills are close enough that the best player is only favored like 75:25 against the worst in code S. Especially increased by the fact the first games are just bo3. Not even mentioning there are maps which can just screw out a player sometimes, for example I recall sOs getting really bad maps in the OSL for his matchups. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
there is def no best player this year the title is shared between JD, dear, innovation, maru, soulkey and s0s | ||
LastManProductions
United States252 Posts
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matthy
66 Posts
it stands on SPOILER FREE. and i see the guy with the trophy in his hand and below who won. What else can't you spoile the score??? | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 14 2013 21:27 matthy wrote: come on TL wtf is wrong with you. it stands on SPOILER FREE. and i see the guy with the trophy in his hand and below who won. What else can't you spoile the score??? Why would you go to the TL front page if you don't want to be spoiled? That's silly | ||
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matthy
66 Posts
On November 14 2013 21:31 Zealously wrote: Why would you go to the TL front page if you don't want to be spoiled? That's silly by acident... but seriosly there is a button Hide Spoilers  | ||
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
On November 14 2013 21:07 Kitaen wrote: dear is the best player right now, sos is creative, JD is consistent, maru had sparks of brilliance and plays the best boxed series, part time polt had a very very strong years, MMA is back, bomber is bomber, innovation was a god at the start of hots and looks now mortal, mvp will not recover this time i feel, soulkey is somehow like JD in top notch zerg play aswell as his chokes, taeja and hero had a decent year aswell but nothing outstanding there is def no best player this year the title is shared between JD, dear, innovation, maru, soulkey and s0s agree | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
at everything obviously  | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On November 14 2013 21:42 matthy wrote: by acident... but seriosly there is a button Hide Spoilers Its been almost a week since the finals ended and you are mad because a news site had a post article that had the winner in it not spoilered? How long are they supposed to be spoilered for? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 14 2013 21:57 11cc wrote: God damn I can't get over this damn article. How much the WCG finals end up meaning in the long run is a legit discussion to have I suppose, but with this timing I get the feeling that waxangel simply didn't like the results so he wanted to remind everyone that's it's just for today, nothing to see here, just one day out of 365. He'd be saying the same thing no matter who won. | ||
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11cc
Finland561 Posts
On November 14 2013 22:45 StarStruck wrote: There was never a Best in the World. Sorry it's all smoke and mirrors C.M. Punk. He'd be saying the same thing no matter who won. Since you say it so matter of factly I guess you must know better than me. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 14 2013 23:00 11cc wrote: Since you say it so matter of factly I guess you must know better than me. The only time I reckon this article wouldn't have been written is if Dear had won. None of the others had a legit claim to being the best pre-Blizzcon, and no one is clear now. | ||
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matthy
66 Posts
On November 14 2013 22:34 YourGoodFriend wrote: Its been almost a week since the finals ended and you are mad because a news site had a post article that had the winner in it not spoilered? How long are they supposed to be spoilered for? forever ofcourse else you dont know what is spoilered and what not. if you want to see results of something disable the hide spoilers box, or just click on the thing that has the spoilers hidden. there is no reason to do half on half rigth? | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On November 14 2013 15:34 KnowNothing wrote: So, I predicted sOs to win the tournament, and not because he's the best player, because I LOOKED AT THE BRACKETS individually and worked it out, good work Rotterdam. I wonder why people find the results so shocking. People seem to be way off on their evaluation of so many players: -Bomber isn't nearly as strong a player as people say. Forget about him. -Soulkey's playstyle has always made him consistently good but not #1 -Innovation is off-form, but will bounce back soon, still, he won't be clear #1 anytime soon -Duckdeok is an opportunist. He just takes whatever shot he's got, his control is good and he's always going to be dangerous. -JD is finally getting it, just has some psychological barriers to get through -Dear is the best player in the world, which is exactly why he doesn't feel comfortable when someone is straight up outplaying him like JD did. -Maru is overrated, but he obviously will get better -sOs won because of the brackets. R1. He has strong PvP, so he beat Hero. R2. Polt can't handle these tournaments. R3: Bomber overrated. R4. Jaedong choking. -The players I didn't mention had absolutely no chance. Also, toss is strong right now, whether its just the players or the race itself I can't say. (This coming from a protoss fan) You'll have to explain your logic right there. "Dear is the best player in the world, which is exactly why he doesn't feel comfortable when someone is straight up outplaying him like JD did." So, "He's the best but feels uncomfortable when outplayed". Outplayed by... ? Someone bad ? How is he the best in the world then ? Someone good ? So maybe this guy is too close or even better and then that title of best in the world doesn't mean that much ? Bomber being overrated is a joke also. Bomber has been relevant BUT inconsistent. It's some "relevant inconsistency". He would not have had these recent finishes otherwise... What defines Bomber is that he can beat anyone. I can say with no fear "Bomber can beat this dude". I will be more reluctant to say "Bomber WILL beat this dude". (Side note: somehow I love Bomber for that). And for Polt, I don't even... | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
So, "He's the best but feels uncomfortable when outplayed". Outplayed by... ? Someone bad ? How is he the best in the world then ? Someone good ? So maybe this guy is too close or even better and then that title of best in the world doesn't mean that much ? In every sport, the best players lose sometimes. Michael Jordan never had a season where his Bulls went undefeated. It happens. Everyone has off days, and thats even more true in something like SC2 where mind games and accurate guessing can play a large part in who ultimately wins. | ||
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